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    1. [MD-BALTIMORECITY] ONE BIG QUESTION
    2. Bud Flanagan
    3. WHAT PUBLIC AND PRIVATE RECORDS WERE DESTROYED IN THE GREAT Baltimore FIRE OF 1905. Bud Flanagan, in Arizona

    04/23/2007 06:41:46
    1. [MD-BALTIMORECITY] in census record but not in city directory
    2. ColumbusGuy
    3. Hi, I have a relative listed in the 1900 census for Baltimore City, MD. However, they seem to appear nowhere in the Baltimore City Directory from 1899-1910, per the staff at the Enoch Pratt library in Baltimore. Have others experienced such a phenomena? Why would this be? I find it quite disappointing as I can not find any clue on this family after the 1900 census. Any guidance or suggestions would be greatly welcomed, Rich Columbus, Ohio --------------------------------- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.

    04/23/2007 06:18:59
    1. Re: [MD-BALTIMORECITY] Baltimore City Maps of 1842
    2. Edward Arthur
    3. Check the Maryland Historical Society's web site for information concerning your problem. A visit to the Society to check maps would help. Also you can phone or send a letter to them to get an answer. Francis O'Neill is an expert on Baltimore streets in the 19th century and could help you out. E Arthur On Apr 23, 2007, at 10:18 AM, Bill Love wrote: > I am trying to locate a map that would show the location of "Happy > Alley" in > Baltimore between 1827 and 1842. It apparently ran north of > Alisanna and > south of Fleet Streets. According to the Baltimore City > directories of the > time, my fourth great grandparents may have both been living on > this alley > address. > > Thanks for any assistance you can provide. > > Bill Love > welove@tampabay.rr.com > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.463 / Virus Database: 269.5.9/773 - Release Date: > 4/22/2007 > 8:18 PM > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MD- > BALTIMORECITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    04/23/2007 05:50:31
    1. [MD-BALTIMORECITY] orphanage?
    2. TomKat
    3. Hi Joan. I can't be sure of the street name either but it looks like Warwick ave. It's near Moreland, not Maryland ave. I was checking to see what happened to Irene's siblings in 1910 and after. Then you would have more of a clue if she was orphaned..... I noticed on the 1900 census that Irene's mother Anna was 23, from VA and Anna's parents were from NC. So I checked 1910 and see an Anna KOLMER, age 33, from VA, parents NC who is a widow. She is a servant with a private family on St Paul st, Ward 11. No children listed with her. It looks more like KA_MER to me. I don't see her in 1920 so hopefully she remarried. Might be able to check with the Archdiocese of Balto to see if this was an orphanage. All Saints Home appears to be a Catholic organization headed by Sr Marguerite. Trying to find out what happened to her siblings now.... Maybe more later. Kathy treenut@bcpl.net > Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 23:37:31 +0000 > From: rolfes@comcast.net > Subject: [MD-BALTIMORECITY] Orphanage > To: md-baltimorecity@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <042220072337.24463.462BF1BB00056E1100005F8F22070208539C0A0004019D@comcast.net> > > Content-Type: text/plain > > Am I right in assuming the All Saints Home for Children was an orphanage? > In 1900 Irene Kahmer 1 lives with her father Louis a music teacher mother > and 3 siblings but in 1910 she is an inmate in the home. There was > extended family nearby and not poverty stricken. Google does not reveal > much. The home was off Maryland Ave. but I could not read the street name. > Joan >

    04/23/2007 05:06:50
    1. [MD-BALTIMORECITY] Baltimore City Maps of 1842
    2. Bill Love
    3. I am trying to locate a map that would show the location of "Happy Alley" in Baltimore between 1827 and 1842. It apparently ran north of Alisanna and south of Fleet Streets. According to the Baltimore City directories of the time, my fourth great grandparents may have both been living on this alley address. Thanks for any assistance you can provide. Bill Love welove@tampabay.rr.com No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.463 / Virus Database: 269.5.9/773 - Release Date: 4/22/2007 8:18 PM

    04/23/2007 04:18:48
    1. [MD-BALTIMORECITY] North Chapel S.S.
    2. I have a silver (?) medal that is inscribed 'North Chapel S.S 1895' on one side and the name Frank Adams on the other. My guess is that this is from somewhere in the Baltimore area. I'm also guessing that the 'S.S' stands for 'Sunday School'. I'd welcome any other guesses or information. Thanks, Diana ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com.

    04/23/2007 01:24:37
    1. [MD-BALTIMORECITY] Orphanage
    2. Am I right in assuming the All Saints Home for Children was an orphanage? In 1900 Irene Kahmer 1 lives with her father Louis a music teacher mother and 3 siblings but in 1910 she is an inmate in the home. There was extended family nearby and not poverty stricken. Google does not reveal much. The home was off Maryland Ave. but I could not read the street name. Joan

    04/22/2007 05:37:31
    1. [MD-BALTIMORECITY] Info on Harry Brandau 1847-1886.HELP!!!
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Kristy_Hoffmeister Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.maryland.counties.baltimorecity/7471/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I was wondering if anyone could help me find any information on my great great granduncle,Harry Brandau. He died March 23,1886 at 211 Ferderick Ave. The church he went to according to his obituary was the Methodist church on Fulton Street. He is buried in Loudon Park Cemetery. If anyone can help me,i'd appreciate it. Kristy Hoffmeister kristy_h@yahoo.com Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    04/22/2007 01:00:27
    1. [MD-BALTIMORECITY] US Citizen
    2. Michael J. O'Brien
    3. I am looking for assistance in learning how to get information on my grandfather THOMA J. CUSHING becoming a US Citizen. He became a US citzen in Commercial Court, Baltimore July 14, 1888. His witness was John KAVENAUGH. How do you go about getting a copy of the naturalization papers? Any help would be greatly appreciated! Michael O'Brien Buckingham PA

    04/22/2007 05:18:46
    1. Re: [MD-BALTIMORECITY] Baltimore Cemetery question
    2. DALE SUMMER
    3. Hello, I also had a good experience at the Baltimore Cemetery. The guy is NOT interested in genealogy, but he did get the old cards out of the file that I needed . In fact, I was able to make a vital connection to family members at that visit. A piece of advice...go early in the day, when it gets near closing time, the two gentlemen in the office are determined to leave on time and are less apt to help you "dig" for information. Dale DALE SUMMER ----- Original Message ----- From: "A Williams" <fla_girl_2001@yahoo.com> To: <md-baltimorecity@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 7:35 AM Subject: Re: [MD-BALTIMORECITY] Baltimore Cemetery question > My experience at Baltimore Cemetery was a positive > one. I will agree with Jane that the gentleman > working in the office doesn't care about genealogy. > But he was polite to me and answered my questions. I > probably should have brought extra $. > > > --- "g.ruppert@att.net" <g.ruppert@att.net> wrote: > >> Hi Mona: >> >> I doubt that the office staff will consent to your >> searching the books at Baltimore Cemetery. On the >> other hand, it surely won't hurt anything to ask, >> especially if you approach it in a matter that will >> save them some effort. >> >> One of the major problems with Baltimore Cemetery >> records is that the main office for the cemetery was >> located in downtown Baltimore prior to 1904. In the >> Baltimore Fire of 1904, that office and all of the >> records were destroyed. >> >> What passes for records prior to 1904 now, were >> recreated from the sexton records kept at the >> cemetery. The sexton was more interested in digging >> and maintaining the grounds rather than keeping >> records! There are many errors, not just in >> spellings but locations. >> >> Nonetheless, I have always had very positive >> experiences with the staff at Baltimore Cemetery. >> Whether requested or not, always offer to pay for >> the service they are providing. >> >> I never heard of HIPA (though I'm intimately >> familiar with HIPPA). Somehow I don't see how or why >> the government is interested in protecting the >> interest of the long-dead ... but then again ... >> >> Good Luck. >> >> Gary >> 20 April 2007 >> Baltimore >> http://home.att.net/~g.ruppert >> >> Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 12:25:18 -0700 (PDT) >> From: mona everett <mona_sydd_yma@yahoo.com> >> Subject: [MD-BALTIMORECITY] Baltimore Cemetery >> question >> To: BALTGEN-L@rootsweb.com, >> MD-BaltimoreCity-L@rootsweb.com >> Message-ID: >> <269905.76121.qm@web58311.mail.re3.yahoo.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 >> >> Hi, >> >> I have been to Baltimore Cemetery and found some >> early ancestors who were >> buried there before Mt. Carmel opened. The people in >> the office were >> helpful--both in person and by mail--but pretty >> secretive with the actual >> records. Although they did provide me with copies. >> >> My question is: Has anyone ever been able to >> actually look through the records >> there--without having the man in the office do it >> and bring out whatever he >> finds? >> >> It took me several years and visits before I found >> my DAVIS/DAVIES people >> because the original record had been >> mis-transcribed. Instead of listing "David >> Davies" in the plot on the date he was buried, it >> listed "Mrs. Davies" a few days before his death. >> Likely she knew he was dying and bought the plot. >> The original record was >> correct and showed David as being in the plot. This >> is something I would have >> been able to pick up on immediately, if I had been >> allowed to see the original >> records, or even the transcritions. >> >> I now have another person to hunt for there, but >> do not have an exact date of >> death (although I can probably limit it to one year) >> and no first name--just >> surname DAVIS/DAVIES. I can approximate her age from >> those of her husband and 2 >> young boys. >> >> If I could look thru the original records myself, >> I could probably find her. I >> can't imagine the office looking with just this >> info. >> >> What do you think--I'll be out in Baltimore again >> in August or Sept. Should I >> try to convince them to let me search? I would still >> gladly pay them. >> >> Thanks! >> >> Mona >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email >> to MD-BALTIMORECITY-request@rootsweb.com with the >> word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject >> and the body of the message >> > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MD-BALTIMORECITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    04/21/2007 05:11:29
    1. [MD-BALTIMORECITY] B'more news article
    2. Forwarded from another list http://blog.eogn.com/eastmans_online_genealogy/2007/04/decay_threatens.html Eastman's Online Genealogy Newsletter by Dick Eastman April 16, 2007 Decay Threatens Important Baltimore History Archives Antero Pietila has written an article in the (Baltimore) Examiner that describes the crumbling archives at various nearby locations. The Enoch Pratt Free Library's little-known treasures are the vertical files in the Maryland department. They hold 7,000 large envelopes full of yellowing newspaper clippings, reports and documents detailing Baltimore's life and development, mostly from the 1930s to the 1980s. For information about Baltimore during World War II or about the city's housing and education problems, visiting the vertical files is mandatory. Over the years, the vertical files have spawned innumerable books, dissertations and term papers. But many of those brittle files are literally turning to dust. Perhaps even more distressing, the oral history collections of the Maryland Historical Society and the University of Baltimore are now so fragile researchers may no longer listen to original interviews for fear of damaging the audio tapes beyond repair. Pietila writes: "This is nothing short of a calamity. Many important interviews have not been transcribed on paper. If neglect destroys the original tapes, valuable first-person assessments of Maryland's recent history will be lost, including a huge interview project on local civil rights struggles. "The local institutions housing this material must digitize the documents as soon as possible before the files and audio tapes disintegrate. They will need extra money to complete the project and should band together to maximi ze private and public fundraising." You can read Antero Pietila's article at http://tinyurl.com/35r5oc. ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

    04/21/2007 04:48:11
    1. Re: [MD-BALTIMORECITY] BALTIMORE CITY DIRECTORIES
    2. John Siemon
    3. JD, >From a message I sent last September. John The Baltimore City Directories at http://aomol.net/html/officials.html are a mix of Business Directories and the general City Directories, which included business owners, plus most working people and many nonworking women who were the heads of households. As with most records, the earlier ones are less complete and accurate. The ones that are only business directories will have "Business" in the title. You can also find the 1864 Baltimore Directory at http://www.geocities.com/pauledely/1864/ You can also find the 1899, 1912 and 1913 Baltimore City Directories at Heritage Quest, which is available on the home page of most Maryland public libraries and many others throughout the country. Look for genealogy databases, then access with your library card number, then Search Books, Search publications, then search on the following phrases to find them quickly. R.L. Polk & Co.'s Baltimore city directory for 1899 Baltimore city directory for the year commencing April 1st, 1912 Baltimore city directory for the year commencing April 1st, 1913 And Ancestry.com has an index of the 1890 Baltimore City Directory. John -----Original Message----- From: md-baltimorecity-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:md-baltimorecity-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of JDRodgers Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 8:28 AM To: Genealogy, BALTO CITY; Genealogy, Balto Co.; Genealogy, Balto. City Subject: [MD-BALTIMORECITY] BALTIMORE CITY DIRECTORIES I know I used to be able to view Baltimore City Directories on-line but now I can't seem to find the site. Can anyone help me? JD Rodgers ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MD-BALTIMORECITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    04/21/2007 03:20:32
    1. Re: [MD-BALTIMORECITY] BALTIMORE CITY DIRECTORIES
    2. Nancy Lauer
    3. http://www.msa.md.gov/msa/refserv/html/citydirectories.html -----Original Message----- From: md-baltimorecity-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:md-baltimorecity-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of JDRodgers Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 8:28 AM To: Genealogy, BALTO CITY; Genealogy, Balto Co.; Genealogy, Balto. City Subject: [MD-BALTIMORECITY] BALTIMORE CITY DIRECTORIES I know I used to be able to view Baltimore City Directories on-line but now I can't seem to find the site. Can anyone help me? JD Rodgers ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MD-BALTIMORECITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    04/21/2007 03:20:25
    1. [MD-BALTIMORECITY] BALTIMORE CITY DIRECTORIES
    2. JDRodgers
    3. I know I used to be able to view Baltimore City Directories on-line but now I can't seem to find the site. Can anyone help me? JD Rodgers

    04/21/2007 02:27:38
    1. Re: [MD-BALTIMORECITY] Baltimore Cemetery question
    2. A Williams
    3. My experience at Baltimore Cemetery was a positive one. I will agree with Jane that the gentleman working in the office doesn't care about genealogy. But he was polite to me and answered my questions. I probably should have brought extra $. --- "g.ruppert@att.net" <g.ruppert@att.net> wrote: > Hi Mona: > > I doubt that the office staff will consent to your > searching the books at Baltimore Cemetery. On the > other hand, it surely won't hurt anything to ask, > especially if you approach it in a matter that will > save them some effort. > > One of the major problems with Baltimore Cemetery > records is that the main office for the cemetery was > located in downtown Baltimore prior to 1904. In the > Baltimore Fire of 1904, that office and all of the > records were destroyed. > > What passes for records prior to 1904 now, were > recreated from the sexton records kept at the > cemetery. The sexton was more interested in digging > and maintaining the grounds rather than keeping > records! There are many errors, not just in > spellings but locations. > > Nonetheless, I have always had very positive > experiences with the staff at Baltimore Cemetery. > Whether requested or not, always offer to pay for > the service they are providing. > > I never heard of HIPA (though I'm intimately > familiar with HIPPA). Somehow I don't see how or why > the government is interested in protecting the > interest of the long-dead ... but then again ... > > Good Luck. > > Gary > 20 April 2007 > Baltimore > http://home.att.net/~g.ruppert > > Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 12:25:18 -0700 (PDT) > From: mona everett <mona_sydd_yma@yahoo.com> > Subject: [MD-BALTIMORECITY] Baltimore Cemetery > question > To: BALTGEN-L@rootsweb.com, > MD-BaltimoreCity-L@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <269905.76121.qm@web58311.mail.re3.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Hi, > > I have been to Baltimore Cemetery and found some > early ancestors who were > buried there before Mt. Carmel opened. The people in > the office were > helpful--both in person and by mail--but pretty > secretive with the actual > records. Although they did provide me with copies. > > My question is: Has anyone ever been able to > actually look through the records > there--without having the man in the office do it > and bring out whatever he > finds? > > It took me several years and visits before I found > my DAVIS/DAVIES people > because the original record had been > mis-transcribed. Instead of listing "David > Davies" in the plot on the date he was buried, it > listed "Mrs. Davies" a few days before his death. > Likely she knew he was dying and bought the plot. > The original record was > correct and showed David as being in the plot. This > is something I would have > been able to pick up on immediately, if I had been > allowed to see the original > records, or even the transcritions. > > I now have another person to hunt for there, but > do not have an exact date of > death (although I can probably limit it to one year) > and no first name--just > surname DAVIS/DAVIES. I can approximate her age from > those of her husband and 2 > young boys. > > If I could look thru the original records myself, > I could probably find her. I > can't imagine the office looking with just this > info. > > What do you think--I'll be out in Baltimore again > in August or Sept. Should I > try to convince them to let me search? I would still > gladly pay them. > > Thanks! > > Mona > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to MD-BALTIMORECITY-request@rootsweb.com with the > word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject > and the body of the message > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

    04/21/2007 01:35:12
    1. Re: [MD-BALTIMORECITY] Baltimore Cemetery question
    2. Hi Mona: I doubt that the office staff will consent to your searching the books at Baltimore Cemetery. On the other hand, it surely won't hurt anything to ask, especially if you approach it in a matter that will save them some effort. One of the major problems with Baltimore Cemetery records is that the main office for the cemetery was located in downtown Baltimore prior to 1904. In the Baltimore Fire of 1904, that office and all of the records were destroyed. What passes for records prior to 1904 now, were recreated from the sexton records kept at the cemetery. The sexton was more interested in digging and maintaining the grounds rather than keeping records! There are many errors, not just in spellings but locations. Nonetheless, I have always had very positive experiences with the staff at Baltimore Cemetery. Whether requested or not, always offer to pay for the service they are providing. I never heard of HIPA (though I'm intimately familiar with HIPPA). Somehow I don't see how or why the government is interested in protecting the interest of the long-dead ... but then again ... Good Luck. Gary 20 April 2007 Baltimore http://home.att.net/~g.ruppert Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 12:25:18 -0700 (PDT) From: mona everett <mona_sydd_yma@yahoo.com> Subject: [MD-BALTIMORECITY] Baltimore Cemetery question To: BALTGEN-L@rootsweb.com, MD-BaltimoreCity-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <269905.76121.qm@web58311.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hi, I have been to Baltimore Cemetery and found some early ancestors who were buried there before Mt. Carmel opened. The people in the office were helpful--both in person and by mail--but pretty secretive with the actual records. Although they did provide me with copies. My question is: Has anyone ever been able to actually look through the records there--without having the man in the office do it and bring out whatever he finds? It took me several years and visits before I found my DAVIS/DAVIES people because the original record had been mis-transcribed. Instead of listing "David Davies" in the plot on the date he was buried, it listed "Mrs. Davies" a few days before his death. Likely she knew he was dying and bought the plot. The original record was correct and showed David as being in the plot. This is something I would have been able to pick up on immediately, if I had been allowed to see the original records, or even the transcritions. I now have another person to hunt for there, but do not have an exact date of death (although I can probably limit it to one year) and no first name--just surname DAVIS/DAVIES. I can approximate her age from those of her husband and 2 young boys. If I could look thru the original records myself, I could probably find her. I can't imagine the office looking with just this info. What do you think--I'll be out in Baltimore again in August or Sept. Should I try to convince them to let me search? I would still gladly pay them. Thanks! Mona

    04/20/2007 08:07:44
    1. [MD-BALTIMORECITY] Baltimore Cemetery
    2. Yes, I have gotten them to be more generous with the information that "the man" brings out but that is because I have spent a lot of time there and gotten to know him and his ways of doing things. Knowing that he will only bring out what you ask for, simply ask him if it would be too much trouble to bring out all the cards with the surname you are looking for. Tell him how helpful he is being. Be very ingratiating. And thank him profusely each time he helps you. Don't gush. He doesn't like that. Just be calm, nice and matter of fact. Kind of like him. But most importantly know what the records are. They have no records except caretaker records and those little cards before the 1904 fire. All was lost in the fire. They created those cards based on the caretakers records. Often you can find more on the tombstones than they have in their records. Help them out when this happens. Help him update his records. After 1904 when the moved the office to the cemetery, they kept all the usual records that a cemetery keeps. This includes, although most will not tell you, a death certificate number and cause of death. This fact proved very helpful to me when I couldn't find a individual's DC at the MSA even though he is buried at the cemetery. I asked "the Man" to look up the official records of burial and low and behold the individual had died in NY City of a stroke. NY City! No wonder I couldn't find a DC in Maryland on him. I had to ease in on him to get him to look but he did and was delighted I had found something interesting. He is not interested in your genealogy just the facts of what you want. I compliment him. I ask him about his wife who has been sick. I don't rush into anything. In other words, I mirror his demeanor and style. Yes, this means it takes longer. Yes, this means I work harder at times. But I have never come away empty handed. I haven't always found tombstones with tons of information or information they really have in their files. Baltimore Cemetery is very old and is owned by one person whom I think sees it as a tax write off. Because of the records lost, they are very cautious about letting people see what they have. But they will give you the information they have. ALSO--although the sign says $5.00 min for genealogy information. If he has been helpful, give him MORE! I always make sure I have four $5.00 bills, a $10 bill and a $20. And if I know I am going to be a bit of a pest that day, I put the money down on the desk when I walk in and announce to him I am going to be a pest so if he deserves more at the end, I will give it to him. He never asks but I still do if I have been a pest. Shoot--it is cheap fun. Jane Thursby In Maryland since the early 1600's and still here. Thursby, Stinchecum, Seward, Claggett, McNamara, Barnes, Muckelroy, Watkins, Kennard, Oldner, Cullison, Snyder, Griffin, Beall, White and more.

    04/20/2007 07:04:08
    1. Re: [MD-BALTIMORECITY] Baltimore Cemetery
    2. Edward Arthur
    3. Great job Jane. You ahould write a book on how to get cemetery records. Ed Arthur ----- Original Message ----- From: <thursby@ourmarylandfamilies.com> To: <md-baltimorecity@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 9:04 AM Subject: [MD-BALTIMORECITY] Baltimore Cemetery > Yes, I have gotten them to be more generous with the information that "the > man" brings out but that is because I have spent a lot of time there and > gotten to know him and his ways of doing things. > > Knowing that he will only bring out what you ask for, simply ask him if it > would be too much trouble to bring out all the cards with the surname you > are looking for. Tell him how helpful he is being. Be very ingratiating. > And thank him profusely each time he helps you. Don't gush. He doesn't > like that. Just be calm, nice and matter of fact. Kind of like him. > > But most importantly know what the records are. > > They have no records except caretaker records and those little cards > before the 1904 fire. All was lost in the fire. They created those cards > based on the caretakers records. Often you can find more on the > tombstones than they have in their records. Help them out when this > happens. Help him update his records. > > After 1904 when the moved the office to the cemetery, they kept all the > usual records that a cemetery keeps. This includes, although most will > not tell you, a death certificate number and cause of death. This fact > proved very helpful to me when I couldn't find a individual's DC at the > MSA even though he is buried at the cemetery. I asked "the Man" to look > up the official records of burial and low and behold the individual had > died in NY City of a stroke. NY City! No wonder I couldn't find a DC in > Maryland on him. > > I had to ease in on him to get him to look but he did and was delighted I > had found something interesting. > > He is not interested in your genealogy just the facts of what you want. I > compliment him. I ask him about his wife who has been sick. I don't rush > into anything. In other words, I mirror his demeanor and style. > > Yes, this means it takes longer. Yes, this means I work harder at times. > But I have never come away empty handed. I haven't always found > tombstones with tons of information or information they really have in > their files. > > Baltimore Cemetery is very old and is owned by one person whom I think > sees it as a tax write off. Because of the records lost, they are very > cautious about letting people see what they have. But they will give you > the information they have. > > ALSO--although the sign says $5.00 min for genealogy information. If he > has been helpful, give him MORE! I always make sure I have four $5.00 > bills, a $10 bill and a $20. And if I know I am going to be a bit of a > pest that day, I put the money down on the desk when I walk in and > announce to him I am going to be a pest so if he deserves more at the end, > I will give it to him. He never asks but I still do if I have been a > pest. Shoot--it is cheap fun. > > Jane Thursby > In Maryland since the early 1600's and still here. > Thursby, Stinchecum, Seward, Claggett, McNamara, Barnes, Muckelroy, > Watkins, Kennard, Oldner, Cullison, Snyder, Griffin, Beall, White and > more. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MD-BALTIMORECITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    04/20/2007 04:26:43
    1. Re: [MD-BALTIMORECITY] Baltimore Cemetery
    2. mona everett
    3. Thanks, Jan, for offering hope. I am ALWAYS polite and ingratiating and overflowing with positive comments whenever I go to a cemetery! Kindness does pay off! Not living in Maryland, I cannot get out there often enough to establish a relationship, but I will be sure to "remind" him how helpful he was last times I was there, and I will bring extra cash. The only records I am interested in (for now)would pre-date the fire. I'll see how it goes and file a report in September! Thanks, Mona

    04/20/2007 12:48:31
    1. [MD-BALTIMORECITY] Stouter-Hassell family of Baltimore
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: patmontero25 Surnames: stouter, hassell Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.maryland.counties.baltimorecity/7470/mb.ashx Message Board Post: James Henry Stouter married Mary E. Hassell on 17 Jun 1908 in Baltimore, Baltimore City, MD at Immaculate Conception Church. They had 2 daughters: Mary D., born 1910 MD and Katherine H., born 19190 MD. James was a conductor with the railroad and died 25 may 1965 in Baltimore. Any further information would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. Patricia Montero Patmontero25@hotmail.com Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    04/19/2007 04:06:24