This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: marytom126 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.maryland.unknown/405.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Sorry Donna I can't help you with Elizabeth's last name, but on the fifth child of hers I have on the ship "Gothe" coming over from Germany to Baltimore in Sept. 1855 she had 3 children, Adalbert(ll),Louis (5), Veronica (3)her name found later in census as Anna and Valenica. I found them also in the 1870 and 1880 Census. My great grandfather Albert married Sophia Grottle in 1863 in Baltimore and then moved to Carroll Co. I found their tombstones there and the dates of birth are the same year that was on the Ship document when he came over with Elizabeth.Also on the same ship there was another family and I feel that their are family of Bernhardt' brother Nicholas's wife and children. They were all together in the 1870 census in Carroll Co. In the 1890 Baltimore Directories they list Bernhardt & Elizabeth living at Pratt St. and your Louis and Edward B. living at Pulaski St.I notice that Zentgraf is spell several ways.Do you notice that. How was your family spelt? Would like ! to know when Bernhardt came over. Donna I am getting off of Ancestry this month so if you like you can e-mail me at Mary-Tom@OLG. Thanks and if you have any info that you could help me with I would gratefully appreaciate it and thanks for your response. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.