With regard to Richard's email and the name 'John'. Scottish Ancestry is such that the naming protocol of children is determined by their parentage and ancestry and usually follows a very set pattern. One helpful key to sorting out your 'John' would be to look at the middle name - which is frequently the surname of the mother. In my husband's case, he is John Stewart Macqueen - which is his grand father's name and the Stewart being taken from his great grandmother (Elizabeth Stewart). It is the simplicity of the naming conventions which makes Scottish ancestry so easy to do (relative to trying to find english ancestors). sincerely Dawn Macqueen, Worcs, England Interests: Lowland Scotland - Macqueen, Stewart, Whyte, Hamilton, Wallace, Boyd