Hi Dawn, I have just caught up with your message dated 2 November. You are correct about some McQueens being transported to the American Colonies (as they were then), mainly to North and South Carolina and Georgia and a few were also transported to the West Indies but this was after the 1715 uprising. A detachment of McQueens under their leader James McQueen of Corryborough mustered at Leuchars Castle (in Fife) about September 1715 to join Macintosh of Borlum's Regiment which was attached to Earl Mar's army. They were mainly deployed to collect Taxes in Fife, Perth and Kinross. There is a record of Lord Mar on the 13 October 1715 writing to the Parish of Crail (in Fife) saying "..if payment of the money is refused or delayed after three days a party of Highlanders are to be employed to effect payment and what loss will occasion to your Parish you may easily conceive..". Payment must have been refused as on the 13 November 1715 it was reported "..no sermon was preached as the town id being bombarded..". Some of the Highland Army remained there until at least January 1716 trying to enforce Lord Mar's edict. This may have included some of the McQueens who settled in Fife after the rebellion whilst at least nine others were captured at the Battle of Preston, imprisoned in the Preston Parish church and cruelly treated before being 'tried' and sentenced to be deported in mid 1716. There was less support by the McQueens for the cause during the 1745 rebellion and from "The Muster Roll of Prince Charles Edward Stuart's Army" at Culloden I can only find five of them:- Donald McQueen with Pitsligo's Light Horse, Alexander McQueen with the Athol Brigade, John McQueen with the Gordons, William McQueen (from Corryborough!) with the Macintosh's and Alexander McQueen with the McPherson's. All were listed as "taken" with Alexander from the Gordons "taken and died". William McQueen of Corryborough "surrendered". What happened to them is unknown. Your history is not quite accurate about Bonnie Prince Charles (the Young Pretender) loosing the throne at the time of Elizabeth I. It was in fact his grandfather father, James II who lost the throne after the Glorious Revolution of 1688 by Prince William of Orange, who then became William III. James was exiled to France. Supported by a small body of French Troops he attempted an uprising in 1690 in Ireland resulting in his defeat at the Battle of the Boyne. James II's son, James Francis Edward Stuart (the Old Pretender) started the 1715 Rebellion and his son, Bonnie Prince Charles was responsible for the 1745 Rebellion culminating in the defeat at Culloden and the subsequent slaughter of hundreds of wounded Scots and also the slaying of many innocent civilians (some of whom had only turned up just to watch the battle) by 'Butcher' Cumberland on his rampage through Culloden village and then on to Inverness. These were not wars as such but Rebellions against the Crown and on both occasions many Scots fought for the Crown against the two Pretenders in both 1715 and 1745. Kind regards, Keith in South Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: <dawnmacqueen@aol.com> To: <McQUEEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 1:22 AM Subject: [McQUEEN] Re: Was the surname McDUGAL changed to McQUEEN on arrival to US? The Macqueens were followers of the MacDonalds and accompanied an irish chieftain's daughter to Skye when she was to marry the Laird of the Isles. They have strong hebridean background and in general supported Bonnie Prince Charlie in his quest to regain the throne - which had been lost at the time of Queen Elizabeth 1. > The war between Scotland and England

Dawn, What do you know about the Magee's from the Island of Magee off the coast of Ireland out from Dublin? I have connections to them as well as to Queen, McQueen, MacQueen, and who knows what else. Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: <dawnmacqueen@aol.com> To: <McQUEEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 8:52 AM Subject: [McQUEEN] Re: Was the surname McDUGAL changed to McQUEEN on arrival to US? > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/XI0.2ACEB/449.2 > > Message Board Post: > > I think that your cuz is confused. The Macqueens were followers of the > MacDonalds and accompanied an irish chieftain's daughter to Skye when she > was to marry the Laird of the Isles. They have strong hebridean background > and in general supported Bonnie Prince Charlie in his quest to regain the > throne - which had been lost at the time of Queen Elizabeth 1. > The war between Scotland and England was acknowledged to have been lost by > the Battle of Culloden. Many scots were driven off their lands. The lands > were frequently promised and (taken) to english war lords as gifts for > their efforts and this is one of the biggest reasons for the islanders > moving to the Americas, though it is not the only one. In the case of the > islands, the move was also related to poor harvests and a belief that the > Americas offered something better. There was also the issue of the way in > which our prisoners were treated. > No, I do not believe that McDugal became Macqueen at any point. Mc Shubin, > Mcrae, McGee are possibles, but not McDugal. > I have been researching my husband's family tree for over 20 years now and > I still find it so excting that it can bring history back to life. Do'nt > give up - and trust your own judgments!! > > > ==== McQUEEN Mailing List ==== > To Unsubscribe: Click on mailto:McQueen-L-request@rootsweb.com to > create a new message with UNSUBSCRIBE as the *only* text in the message, > and as the subject. Contact Valorie: mailto:McQueen-admin@rootsweb.com > with any questions, list problems, or virus warnings. > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >

Hi Pat no. My Jim (john James) married a certain Bronwen Jones (who was welsh!). His father, John, married Laura Rubotham in Birmingham c. 1884. evenso, we had best keep tabs on them all as they may be related! sincerely Dawn

How interesting. I have some Macqueens who lived in Liverpool 1920 - 30 - 40 ish - John James (Jim) Macqueen worked at the Radio Stn, then moved with his family (wife Kathleen, daughter Jean and son Roy Stuart) to Rugby where he headed up the radio stn. I dont know why they were there in the first place (work????) but Jim was born in Birmingham and his father was a lowland scots (John Macqueen). Another relative who was local to Liverpool was Jessie Macqueen - I believe she was a senior manager in the Manchester Co-op. If any of this rings bells for you, let me know. sincerely Dawn Dawn Macqueen

Thanks Dawn, I feel you a nice young lady. I am a retired Irish-born woman just checking my Scots-English background for my Dad's family. John McQueen born Dublin, Ireland 1901. On my Mom's side I am all Irish but I like to check the McQueen side. Dad always said his family were Scots just down Scotland a couple of generations and I managed to find my great grandfather Thos.Owen McQueen born Liverpool 1876 and his 2 bros Albert and Frederick W. My Dad spent many years living in Liverpool during the troubles in Ireland 1916-1921. I am living far away in San Francisco, Californ with my 3 grown sons and retired hubby so I have time to research on the computer mainly with help of one nephew I have in London, who checks things out for me, but I do most of the searching it seems. I would quit if I could find some English cousins there and maybe see them on my next visit next year. If you find any connections could you give me an email at pattymcq@comcast.net The best site to search is www.familysearch.com that is the LDS site which has records from all over the world, its amazing how many McQueens there are in USA but I just want to find the recent ones in England. I want to visit there next year and maybe see some of the living McQueens, so if yu find any connections please give me a phone call at 1-415 665-2349 (collect if you like) or email me at pattymcq@comcast.net. Best regards, In particular if you find an Owen in the family tree hiding somewhere I would be excited to find the details. Regards, possible cousin or not, call me if you find anything on him. Patricia Rosset nee McQueen, born Dublin, Ireland now in S.F.Ca.USA. ----- Original Message ----- From: DAWNMACQUEEN@aol.com To: McQUEEN-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 2:01 PM Subject: Re: [McQUEEN] Re: Was the surname McDUGAL changed to McQUEEN on arrival to US? Hi Pat no. My Jim (john James) married a certain Bronwen Jones (who was welsh!). His father, John, married Laura Rubotham in Birmingham c. 1884. evenso, we had best keep tabs on them all as they may be related! sincerely Dawn ==== McQUEEN Mailing List ==== Rootsweb has created a resource page for us, with a number of searches and other goodies: http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/m/c/MCQUEEN ============================== Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx

Interesting Dawn but hard to tell. My Owen Macqueen was a lowland Scot if you mean from Galloway, Wigtown, Scotland area. He brought his whole family to Liverpool in 1861 on Brit census 1861. He had a son called John who may have had a son called John James born Liverpool ca. 1870s ish. I think he had other children, will check if I can find them. Owen Macqueens children were Elizabeth b.1838, Peter b. 1840, James b. 1848 (my line) John, b.1846, Margaret b.1844 and last William born 1855 Liverpool. Their parents were lowland Scots Owen Macqueen, 46 wife Margaret 44 and all the above mentioned children were born in Mochrum, Wig. Scotland I found them in 1841 and 1851 Mochrum census and 1861 Brit census from south Liverpool. I will look see at www.familysearch.com the LDS site which give lots of info and get back to you. Can you find any more info on John James, he might be the son of my John, brother to my great gran uncle James who married Ellen Doyle in church in Liverpool 1870 and had 3 sons Albert born 1871. Frederick W. born 1874 and Thos Owen (my grandfather) b.1876. He came to Dublin, Ireland as a pioneer electrician and married my grandma had my Dad John who had me and so on.....Regards, Patricia ----- Original Message ----- From: DAWNMACQUEEN@aol.com To: McQUEEN-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 12:17 PM Subject: Re: [McQUEEN] Re: Was the surname McDUGAL changed to McQUEEN on arrival to US? How interesting. I have some Macqueens who lived in Liverpool 1920 - 30 - 40 ish - John James (Jim) Macqueen worked at the Radio Stn, then moved with his family (wife Kathleen, daughter Jean and son Roy Stuart) to Rugby where he headed up the radio stn. I dont know why they were there in the first place (work????) but Jim was born in Birmingham and his father was a lowland scots (John Macqueen). Another relative who was local to Liverpool was Jessie Macqueen - I believe she was a senior manager in the Manchester Co-op. If any of this rings bells for you, let me know. sincerely Dawn Dawn Macqueen ==== McQUEEN Mailing List ==== List Information: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/McQueen-L.htm ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: McQueen, James, Owen, Peter, William Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/XI0.2ACEB/320.1.1.2 Message Board Post: Hi Elizabeth, My own could be related to James in fact he had a son called James born. 1848, my ggrandfather James McQueen born.Mochrum,WIG. Can yu email me for further discussion at above email address, as I would like to speak to you in person. Cheers, Patricia

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: McQueen, MacPherson, McPherson, Shaw Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/XI0.2ACEB/530 Message Board Post: Elizabeth McQueen, daughter of Alexander McQueen and Elizabeth Wilson, had a son , John out of wedlock. She married Alexander MacPherson/McPherson in the Port of Menteith 22 Dec 1879 and had a son in Sept 1880, Alexander Shaw MacPherson/McPherson. Am searching for more info on the McQueen side of the family. I have no dates of birth or death for Elizabeth or her parents and can not find any siblings.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/XI0.2ACEB/449.2.1 Message Board Post: Hi Dawn, you are right. I have been studying McQueens for years also and they are related to McDonalds of the Isles. In fact closely related to them. Mine are related to Revan dhu McQueen and a daughter Moira(not sure) married a chief of the Mackintosh clan and they became part of clan Chattan and fought on the side of Prince Charles for the throne but lost at Culloden war. Many of the rebels were driven out to American Canada Oz and NZ so they wouldnt challenge the royal family again, plus many other reasons. My clan I can trace only back to Owen McQueen born Wigtown, SCT 1815 my gggrandfather in the 1841, 1851 and 1861 census at Liverpool. Most seemed to remain in Liverpool and I have not got in touch with any yet, except to say the family was there in 1861. Good luck. Pat

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/XI0.2ACEB/455.1 Message Board Post: Hi I had a great uncle called Peter McQueen born 1840 Wigtown, Scotland but I cant find him. He was last heard of on a ship in foreign port 1881 when he was close to 40 years of age. parents Owen McQueen Margaret Copeland. He may have emigrated to Canada or US. Can you connect him to your Agnes McQueen. If you like email me privately at pattmq@comcast.net so we could chat. I am in California now S.F. for a long time, my family of 3 are grown. Cheers, Patricia

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/XI0.2ACEB/461.6 Message Board Post: I would like a copy of your tree if possible. I am, in particular looking for connections with Kilmuir and possibly an Archibald Macqueen, but I would be interested in any early Macqueen / Skye history.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/XI0.2ACEB/449.2 Message Board Post: I think that your cuz is confused. The Macqueens were followers of the MacDonalds and accompanied an irish chieftain's daughter to Skye when she was to marry the Laird of the Isles. They have strong hebridean background and in general supported Bonnie Prince Charlie in his quest to regain the throne - which had been lost at the time of Queen Elizabeth 1. The war between Scotland and England was acknowledged to have been lost by the Battle of Culloden. Many scots were driven off their lands. The lands were frequently promised and (taken) to english war lords as gifts for their efforts and this is one of the biggest reasons for the islanders moving to the Americas, though it is not the only one. In the case of the islands, the move was also related to poor harvests and a belief that the Americas offered something better. There was also the issue of the way in which our prisoners were treated. No, I do not believe that McDugal became Macqueen at any point. Mc Shubin, Mcrae, McGee are possibles, but not McDugal. I have been researching my husband's family tree for over 20 years now and I still find it so excting that it can bring history back to life. Do'nt give up - and trust your own judgments!!

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: McQueen, Queen or Quinn Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/XI0.2ACEB/320.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi Owen may be related to James born Mochrum but I cant verify this. Owen was married in Mochrum Church of Scotland 1837 to Margaret Copeland. Yes he did have a daughter Elizabeth born 1838. My Owen Queen or McQueen was born 1815 some census said in Kirkinner, I found my family in 1841 Mochrum census, 1851 Mochrum census and 1861 Liverpool. If you have any info about your James McQueen m. McCubbin please email me at pattymcq@comcast..net. I would greatly appreciate it. Cheers, Pat

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/XI0.2ACEB/322.1.1.2 Message Board Post: Toni - Hi Brenda Again - still searching but at a dead end - I did pull up a better copy of the census report and see that Penelope mother is from Scotland not Ireland but I cannot find penelope in an;y census before 1880.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/XI0.2ACEB/529 Message Board Post: I am looking for Jock and Mary (Wilson) McQueen. One of their children Ian was born 13 Jan 1916 in Stonehaven, near Dundee, Scotland. Any information would be appreciated. Thanks. Jackie

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Darnall/Darnell McQueen Robey Lowry Terrell Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/XI0.2ACEB/528 Message Board Post: Checking to see if you have a information on the following Darnall Family: Thomas Darnall (Sr.), b. 1713 in Charles County, MD (d. Charles County, MD) m. Sarah McQueen, b abt 1720 - Thomas Darnall (Jr.), b. 1751 in Charles County, MD (d. 1798, Estill County, Kentucky) m. Elizabeth Robey b. abt 1760-1762 in Charles County, MD -- Abejah Darnall, b. 1788 in Charles County, MD. He married Jane Lowry, b. 1792 in Kentucky. --- Amanda Jane Darnall, b Abt 1813-1830 in Clark County, Illinois (d. 26 Mar 1865 in Parker Township, Clark County, Illinois and buried in the Connelly Cemetery. She married Andrew Jackson Terrell, b. 1 Apr 1824 (d. 23 Mar 1911). Date of marriage was 5 Jun 1849 in Clark County, Illinois Thanks in advance for any information on this family. Have very little of the Darnall/Darnell, McQueen, Robey, and Lowry Families

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: McQueen, Scott, Thompson, Wardwell, Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/XI0.2ACEB/527 Message Board Post: I am looking for any info on Peter McQueen from Ireland that married a Serna Scott from Scottland. They had a son Willard that married a Anna A. Thompson and had a son Sylvester who married Estellea Wardwell. Sylvester and Estellea had my G. Grandfather Claude L. McQueen. Most of the McQueens of my family came from "Mt. Pleasant, Isabella County, Michigan. Please Contact me with any Info that you might have on these McQueens. Thank you so much Angel Crowe-McQueen I can also be reached at "topher11101988@aol.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: MC QUEEN Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/XI0.2ACEB/316.1 Message Board Post: PLEASE CONTACT ME ON MCQUEEN INFO. IF YOU GET THIS YOU CAN ALSO CONTACT ME AT A SECOND EMAIL WHICH IS "TOPHER11101988@AOL.COM" THANK YOU ANGEL CROWE

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: McQueens Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/XI0.2ACEB/456.5 Message Board Post: Hi Kate, I would love to see some McQueens from Wigtown who went to Liverpool. My family descended from Owen McQueen, born 1815 Kirkinner or Ireland sometimes called Owen Quinn went with his family to Liverpool ca.1855 recorded in census of 1861 in Toxteth Hall South Liverpool with wife Margaret 44, Elizabeth 22, James 14, Peter 10, and William 5. I have traced James (my line and his 3 sons Albert b. 1871 Frederick W. b. 1874 and Thos.Owen b. 1876. Thos.Owen my grandfather went to Dublin married and had my Dad John and me later. I now reside in San Francisco where I have 3 sons of my own, husband Michel. We are both retired now. I have traced my line but dont know anything about the other members in Liverpool. James was electrician as was his Dad Thos. Owen electrician on ships during WWI. Where could I find his records? Albert and Frederick are unknown to me. I would like to find some Liverpool relatives and Peter or John I saw a Peter McQueen 33, in a foreign port or ship Dwarf on UK census 1881. If my great uncle born 1840/1 could this be him I wonder? If he was entered as age 10 in 1861 he could be 33 in 1881 allowing for age differences. His age was scratched out a couple of time like 8 or 10 in 1861 census. Any information where this Peter went would be greatly appreciated. Email me at pattymcq@comcast if you have any information. Thanks a lot. Patricia

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/XI0.2ACEB/456.4 Message Board Post: some one in my family wrote a book about the McQueen family history and i was curious if this is the same book that was written by one of my family membersplease email me back and let me know