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Hi Dawn, very interesting post indeed! glad I was able to help a bit. When I say mine were electricians. The first one was Owen Thos.McQueen born 1876 Liverpool. He was my grandfather and came to Dublin as a pioneer electrician and a founding member of ETU electricity trade union in Dublin. I did not know him hardly at all, met him once. He worked on ships as an electrician in WWI. James his father born Scotland 1848 was also electrician in Liverpool or a wire man called in the census 1881. They lived at 17 Rose Pl, Liverpool. I might check census for John 1881 maybe related. James had a brother called John born Scot 1846 came to Liverpool with the family in 1850s settled down in Liverpool. The names of the family are: Owen Macqueen, Margaret wife, children: Elizabeth age 22, all single, Peter age 19, John 16, James 14 (my line) Margaret, born 1844 and last William born 1858 Liverpool m. Eliz. Duvall St.Silas Liverpool 1879 They had a daughter Margaret born. 1880 St.Silas, Liverpool Margaret born Scotland m. George H.Ward Liverpool 1869 sister of James. She was 14 years Older than William married in St.Silas as well so maybe they stayed close in Liverpool. I did all this researching myself, its taken several years. I dont know Liverpool at all so I wish I could find a rellie there. I was told the St.Silas was bombed in WWII but the records should be there its a Church of England and the McQueens were Presbyterian. I cant trace John but probably lived somewhere in Liverpool. Could he have He might be a son or grandson of the John you mentioned. Can I check the 1881 census because he could have been related to my John son of Owen but several generations after him. It would be nice to know if he is relatled because I have a sister in Cheshire who would be excited to find a relative even though distant and far away. Cheers, any ideas, ask your husband if he can help find the puzzle. I lived in Dublin all my life until I came to USA, now retired with 3 grown sons all single and handsome. Cheers, Patricia ----- Original Message ----- From: DAWNMACQUEEN@aol.com To: McQUEEN-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 12:55 PM Subject: Re: [McQUEEN] The family history Patricia, the Liverpool link is an interesting one. There have been several pioneering electricians in my Macqueens. John James (known as Jim) Macqueen married Bronwen Jones in 1913 and they lived in Liverpool for quite some time. He ran the Radio Station there until he (Jim) was asked to manage the Rugby Radio station as Chief Engineer (the most important in the UK!). His son, Roy Stewart Macqueen (bn Liverpool 1914) was Chief Engineer at Criggion and then Leafield (nr Oxford). There are several other electrical engineers in the history of my husband's family, though I do not have a Liverpool connection for them. These include Norman Stewart Macqueen (bn 1893), his son George Stewart Macqueen, Ian Hamilton Macqueen MBE (bn 1900), and my husband, John Stewart Macqueen and his father Roy Stewart Macqueen (bn 1907). Gordon Stewart Macqueen (bn 1892) was instrumental in the development of time lapse photography. You never know, this might ring some bells! sincerely Dawn Dawn Macqueen Worcestershire, England ==== McQUEEN Mailing List ==== To Unsubscribe: Click on mailto:McQueen-L-request@rootsweb.com to create a new message with UNSUBSCRIBE as the *only* text in the message, and as the subject. Contact Valorie: mailto:McQueen-admin@rootsweb.com with any questions, list problems, or virus warnings. ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

Patricia & Dawn, Thanks for all the information you have shared. My husband's McQueen family does connect to Robert McQueen, Lord Braxfield. This came as quite a surprise as I thought my husband's line was generations of coal miners. As it turns out, they had quite a different lineage. There is another researcher, Margaret, living in California and Betty living in Cheshire. We have managed to connect our various branches back to a Robert McQueen who married his first cousin Elizabeth McQueen. They were both cousins of Lord Braxfield. Eunice -----Original Message----- From: Patricia McQueen [mailto:pattymcq@comcast.net] Sent: February 20, 2006 11:39 AM To: McQUEEN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [McQUEEN] The family history Hello Dawn, Its nice that you have tracked your family back to 1760, I cannot do mine that far because my Grandad Owen migrated to Dublin from Liverpool late 1900s.where my Dad John was born and then me and our family. I was the only one to emigrate to the US in 1958. I was not an unfortunate famine survivor but a highly trained secretary who was offered a job in NY State. I would have gone back to Dublin but I found my husband Michel on a trip to California and we got married stayed and had a family of 3 sons. I still love Ireland but my husband is not Irish and prefers his own country of birth~ Switzerland and he goes back to visit often. I have tracked my McQueens back to Wigtown where my gggrandfather Owen was married in 1837 in Mochrum to a Copeland. I have tracked them down to Liverpool where they migrated in 1850s and my line James McQueen, electrician lived married and died in Liverpool so I have the dates places and where they lived. To go back farther before 1815 is hard. I will try Ireland but I have to know the town and county were he was born. I might try Ireland again as he may have had a father Owen as well age 60 who was in the 1841 Mochrum census. We were always told we were Scots not English so as Irish and Scots moved back and forth its hard to say where they originally came from. I know its somewhere in the Highlands but the links between are hard to find. Sorry for repeating my whole life story but necessary. Sorry I cant help with the earlier McQueens, maybe my gggggrandfather Owen was born in Ireland ca.1780 or earlier. Bty I heard about the Judge Macqueen called the Hanging Judge. At least you have him in the family heheh get it Tree hehehe..... . It should be easy to go back to the McQueens of Corrybrough as you have. Me not knowing England or Scotland well makes it harder for me to understand the place names. I have a sister living in Cheshsire long time married to a Bisset born in Scotland, I dont know places well there. Good luck Dawn. There are probably thousands of McQueens here in US but I dont even try to connect as I am the only one emigrated in my family, maybe some of the ones from Preston were related to us who knows??? Patricia ----- Original Message ----- From: DAWNMACQUEEN@aol.com To: McQUEEN-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 1:09 AM Subject: Re: [McQUEEN] The family history I have been reading this developing history with great interest. I can trace my Macqueens back to about 1760 in the lowlands (Eaglesham) and I have been trying to ascertain how and why they settled there. I wondered if this followed the battle at Preston. Does anyone know? My Macqueens are tightly linked to the Stewarts and the Hamiltons who were from the lowlands. It is possible that they link to the Macqueens of Braxfield (who unfortunately prospered extremely well in the judiciary at that time) - and who were, in turn, directly linked to the Corrybrough clan chattan. 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Dawn, The Liverpool McQueen connection is also of interest to me. It is said that a Loudon McQueen, originally from the Crawfordjohn area of Lanark went to London about 1800 - married and had 2 daughters. Unfortunately nothing has yielded the marriage information or the names of the daughters. Eunice -----Original Message----- From: DAWNMACQUEEN@aol.com [mailto:DAWNMACQUEEN@aol.com] Sent: February 20, 2006 12:56 PM To: McQUEEN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [McQUEEN] The family history Patricia, the Liverpool link is an interesting one. There have been several pioneering electricians in my Macqueens. John James (known as Jim) Macqueen married Bronwen Jones in 1913 and they lived in Liverpool for quite some time. He ran the Radio Station there until he (Jim) was asked to manage the Rugby Radio station as Chief Engineer (the most important in the UK!). His son, Roy Stewart Macqueen (bn Liverpool 1914) was Chief Engineer at Criggion and then Leafield (nr Oxford). There are several other electrical engineers in the history of my husband's family, though I do not have a Liverpool connection for them. These include Norman Stewart Macqueen (bn 1893), his son George Stewart Macqueen, Ian Hamilton Macqueen MBE (bn 1900), and my husband, John Stewart Macqueen and his father Roy Stewart Macqueen (bn 1907). Gordon Stewart Macqueen (bn 1892) was instrumental in the development of time lapse photography. You never know, this might ring some bells! sincerely Dawn Dawn Macqueen Worcestershire, England ==== McQUEEN Mailing List ==== To Unsubscribe: Click on mailto:McQueen-L-request@rootsweb.com to create a new message with UNSUBSCRIBE as the *only* text in the message, and as the subject. Contact Valorie: mailto:McQueen-admin@rootsweb.com with any questions, list problems, or virus warnings. ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

Patricia, the Liverpool link is an interesting one. There have been several pioneering electricians in my Macqueens. John James (known as Jim) Macqueen married Bronwen Jones in 1913 and they lived in Liverpool for quite some time. He ran the Radio Station there until he (Jim) was asked to manage the Rugby Radio station as Chief Engineer (the most important in the UK!). His son, Roy Stewart Macqueen (bn Liverpool 1914) was Chief Engineer at Criggion and then Leafield (nr Oxford). There are several other electrical engineers in the history of my husband's family, though I do not have a Liverpool connection for them. These include Norman Stewart Macqueen (bn 1893), his son George Stewart Macqueen, Ian Hamilton Macqueen MBE (bn 1900), and my husband, John Stewart Macqueen and his father Roy Stewart Macqueen (bn 1907). Gordon Stewart Macqueen (bn 1892) was instrumental in the development of time lapse photography. You never know, this might ring some bells! sincerely Dawn Dawn Macqueen Worcestershire, England

Hello again Henry, Thank you for the on going information. How interesting that Dougal (Donald) died in 1746 - just one year after the second rebellion of 1745 started. I wonder if he knew of it and the defeat at Culloden in 1746 as his 1715 had been at Preston!! The "Fear Nothing Coat" mentioned in the will is most interesting. That would have been called, in Scotland, during his time, the "feilidh-Mor" or "great wrap" from the way you describe it. Wouldn't it be wonderful if that tartan had survived to this day as I assume he brought it with him after his capture at Preston and would have been a comfort on his voyage across the Atlantic. I have a 'modern' McQueen tartan the set of which dates back to 1819 and it would have been nice to compare them I have come across another variant of the name in relation to tartans and that is MacKeane. I suppose the pronunciation depends on the accent oif who said it and who heard it!! Regards Keith in South Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: <HHMc@aol.com> To: <McQUEEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 6:35 AM Subject: [McQUEEN] The WILL OF DUGAL MACQUEEN > I hope this will some you, my McQueen family > > WILL OF DUGAL MACQUAIN > more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

Hello Dawn, Its nice that you have tracked your family back to 1760, I cannot do mine that far because my Grandad Owen migrated to Dublin from Liverpool late 1900s.where my Dad John was born and then me and our family. I was the only one to emigrate to the US in 1958. I was not an unfortunate famine survivor but a highly trained secretary who was offered a job in NY State. I would have gone back to Dublin but I found my husband Michel on a trip to California and we got married stayed and had a family of 3 sons. I still love Ireland but my husband is not Irish and prefers his own country of birth~ Switzerland and he goes back to visit often. I have tracked my McQueens back to Wigtown where my gggrandfather Owen was married in 1837 in Mochrum to a Copeland. I have tracked them down to Liverpool where they migrated in 1850s and my line James McQueen, electrician lived married and died in Liverpool so I have the dates places and where they lived. To go back farther before 1815 is hard. I will try Ireland but I have to know the town and county were he was born. I might try Ireland again as he may have had a father Owen as well age 60 who was in the 1841 Mochrum census. We were always told we were Scots not English so as Irish and Scots moved back and forth its hard to say where they originally came from. I know its somewhere in the Highlands but the links between are hard to find. Sorry for repeating my whole life story but necessary. Sorry I cant help with the earlier McQueens, maybe my gggggrandfather Owen was born in Ireland ca.1780 or earlier. Bty I heard about the Judge Macqueen called the Hanging Judge. At least you have him in the family heheh get it Tree hehehe..... . It should be easy to go back to the McQueens of Corrybrough as you have. Me not knowing England or Scotland well makes it harder for me to understand the place names. I have a sister living in Cheshsire long time married to a Bisset born in Scotland, I dont know places well there. Good luck Dawn. There are probably thousands of McQueens here in US but I dont even try to connect as I am the only one emigrated in my family, maybe some of the ones from Preston were related to us who knows??? Patricia ----- Original Message ----- From: DAWNMACQUEEN@aol.com To: McQUEEN-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 1:09 AM Subject: Re: [McQUEEN] The family history I have been reading this developing history with great interest. I can trace my Macqueens back to about 1760 in the lowlands (Eaglesham) and I have been trying to ascertain how and why they settled there. I wondered if this followed the battle at Preston. Does anyone know? My Macqueens are tightly linked to the Stewarts and the Hamiltons who were from the lowlands. It is possible that they link to the Macqueens of Braxfield (who unfortunately prospered extremely well in the judiciary at that time) - and who were, in turn, directly linked to the Corrybrough clan chattan. I would be really interested in any help in understanding how and when Macqueens settled in the lowlands. sincerely Dawn Dawn (married to John Stewart Macqueen) ==== McQUEEN Mailing List ==== Please don't post private information about living people without permission. All posts are archived. Search by keyword: http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/?list=MCQUEEN Browse (threaded): http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/MCQUEEN Because messages are archived, please send personal messages, (thank yous, etc.) to the person you are addressing, rather than to the List. ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

I have been reading this developing history with great interest. I can trace my Macqueens back to about 1760 in the lowlands (Eaglesham) and I have been trying to ascertain how and why they settled there. I wondered if this followed the battle at Preston. Does anyone know? My Macqueens are tightly linked to the Stewarts and the Hamiltons who were from the lowlands. It is possible that they link to the Macqueens of Braxfield (who unfortunately prospered extremely well in the judiciary at that time) - and who were, in turn, directly linked to the Corrybrough clan chattan. I would be really interested in any help in understanding how and when Macqueens settled in the lowlands. sincerely Dawn Dawn (married to John Stewart Macqueen)

Keith I very find interesting. "Fear Nothing Coat" mentioned dating back to 1819 would a worth lot today. It be wonderful if that tartan had survived. I find that as a most interesting Henry H. McQueen www.McQueenAuctioneers.com Office 318- 869-1988

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Jane it seems you and Keith agree about history. I myself think there are flaws in the Dugal story. I am a McQueen born Dublin, roots back to Liverpool and Galloway, Mochrum census 1841 and 1851 called Owen Queen then McQueen since Owen is a Tyrone name from the Irish clan Eoghainacht and King Niall of the 9 Hostages of the time of St.Patrick 5th century and Niall had 3 sons, Laoghaire, Owen and Conall who were give land in Tyrone NI, Leinster and Donegal, Owen is a popular name still in south Tyrone. Maybe I will have to look into Ireland for his birthplace and forebears. Eventually I suppose they were to be found in Scotland as much traffic between the clans in those times. Patricia McQueen Rosset now in San Francisco,formerly born Ireland. ----- Original Message ----- From: Jane C. Grezlik To: McQUEEN-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 7:39 PM Subject: Re: [McQUEEN] The family history I have put much thought to this reply. Keith you have supported my information more than you might think. Dugal was with James McQueen as a sub clan at Preston. We all know that he fought at Preston and was taken prisoner there with the others. I did not say his brother Alexander was transported with him, only that he had a brother Alexander, although the Hector aboard ship could well be a younger brother. As for the English transporting troublemaker families together, I have run across it in other research. Guess they didn't think people in chains and half starved would be much trouble. The ship Friendship landed in Baltimore not Boston, when Dugal was aboard. Dugal and the others were sold in Baltimore. We also, know that Dugal was in the Inverness area, which is where Corryborough and Pollocraig are located. In fact these two locations are not that far from each other. I have been in direct contact with John McQueen of USA & Germany and he has the deeds, wills and other records that provide the information that I provided in part. I'm sure if you have a contact in Scotland, they would be able to help verify what I listed. Someday I hope to be able to travel there myself. Until then, I am, like many of us that use the internet, limited to the kindness of others and their hard work to further the search. I am descended from William 1, Dugal's son that received the "Fear nothing coat". My line is William 1, William 2, John, Matilda, Sarah, Thomas, John and me, Jane. Jane in Ohio > ----- Original Message ----- > From: K & P Clark > To: McQUEEN-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 10:09 PM > Subject: Re: [McQUEEN] The family history > > > Hi All, > > The first from Henry on the history of the Stuarts (nice to hear from you > again Henry) and secondly from jcgrezlik (sorry I don't know your name), > both relating to that very elusive Dugal McQueen. > > I have very little in depth knowledge of American History so I will not > presume to make any comment on Dugal after his arrival in Maryland aboard > the "Friendship", along with four other McQueen prisoners, in 1716. > Now where do the McQueens come into all this? The McQueens (or son of > Swein) were a vassal clan to the Clan Chattan and originated, as we all > know, from the Isles of Skye and Rassay. They were later raised to the > status of a minor Clan under John McQueen in 1609 when he signed the Clan > Chattan Band in his own right as a Chief of all the McQueens and was granted > land near Moy in the shire of Inverness. > > Apart from the odd Clan skirmish nothing relevant happened to the McQueens > until early 1714 when James McQueen of Corryborough and his men joined Lord > Mar's regiment which had mustered at Leuchars Castle in Fife under > Mackintosh of Borlum's Army. They were mainly used to collect levies and > taxes in Perth, Kinross and Fife and were notoriously regarded there as > "wyld Hielandmen", even though some must have settled there as the McQueen > name begins to appear in Kirk Records at that time. > > After that some went on to fight at Sheriffmuir (which was a Jacobite > victory although they didn't know it!!) and the Second Battle of Preston. > At Preston the Jacobite Army was defeated and the English said they could > retain their arms and go home. However the perfidious English renigged on > their promise and took those survivors captive imprisoning them in Preston > Parish Church, where some of their names and other graffiti can still be > seen carved into the stonework. So badly were they treated that the local > people had to sneak food into the church to feed them before they were > "tried" and transported to "The Colonies". (This seemed to be a popular way > for the English to get rid of any insurgents, as many were also transported > to "The Colonies" after the Covenanters invaded England and were defeated > at the First Battle of Preston in 1648!!) In all about nine McQueens were > transported in 1716. > > McQueen support for the 1745 was somewhat less enthusiastic even though the > "Muster Roll of Prince Edward Charles's Army" shows Alexander Mcqueen in > the Athol Brigade, Donald in Pitsligo's Light Horse, John in the Gordons, > Angus with the MacLeods, William of Corryborough with the Mackintoshes and > another Alexander with the McPhersons. > > I would venture to suggest that Dugal, along with the other McQueens > transported, would have been of peasant stock and fighting because of > allegiance to their Laird, James McQueen of Corryborough, otherwise they > would have been sent back to London for summary execution as were other > "Chiefs & Nobles". > > All in all I would like to believe that Dugal McQueen came from Pollocraig, > but without further proof I doubt it. > As for Dugal having brothers "Alexander and perhaps Hector", this again > should be treated with suspicion as Alexander and Hector were two of the > other prisoners onboard the "Friendship" with him. I doubt if the English > would have shipped 'brothers' together in case they caused trouble and > insurgency on the voyage!! > > I have further literature on this period. > > Regards...Keith in South Australia > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <dlr11@comcast.net> > To: <McQUEEN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 6:08 AM > Subject: Re: [McQUEEN] About info found at "Church of Jesus Christ of Later > Day Saints " > > > > Thanks Andi > > I have found the same problems. > > Please don't post, edit or down load information that has not been > verfied. > > There is so much WRONG information on the net. > > =14599&targetid=5429 > > > ==== McQUEEN Mailing List ==== > To ask for a lookup or volunteer to do acts of genealogical kindness, > visit Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness, http://www.RAOGK.org > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. 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Hi Keith does that mean Henry is making mistakes about the Dugal Macqueen and the whole story has flaws? I was beginning to think so myself. You are in South Australia, how did you come by all your information. I am a McQueenn Patricia (maiden name) and live in Californis since 1963, retired now. I have found my gggrandfather Owen McQueen in Wig. Scotland 1815 born Ireland? I cant figure out his parent,place of birth but he was in 1851 Scots census and 1861 Liverpool census, so I know the whole family migrated to Liverpool, where I found my ggrandfather and grandfather living so I know I have the right people. I suppose its hard to go back further than 1815, although in 1841 Wig census there were two Owen Queens, one 25 Mine and the other 60, which could be father and son. I will have to search Ireland NI possibly and the land valuation of 1838 in Down where there weretwo Owen Quinns at that time. There was much traffic bet Ireland and Scotland, Scots went to NI and Irish Scots went back to Scotland, so hard to figure out. Cheers, Patricia ~ USA ----- Original Message ----- From: K & P Clark To: McQUEEN-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 8:31 PM Subject: Re: [McQUEEN] The WILL OF DUGAL MACQUEEN Hello again Henry, Thank you for the on going information. How interesting that Dougal (Donald) died in 1746 - just one year after the second rebellion of 1745 started. I wonder if he knew of it and the defeat at Culloden in 1746 as his 1715 had been at Preston!! The "Fear Nothing Coat" mentioned in the will is most interesting. That would have been called, in Scotland, during his time, the "feilidh-Mor" or "great wrap" from the way you describe it. Wouldn't it be wonderful if that tartan had survived to this day as I assume he brought it with him after his capture at Preston and would have been a comfort on his voyage across the Atlantic. I have a 'modern' McQueen tartan the set of which dates back to 1819 and it would have been nice to compare them I have come across another variant of the name in relation to tartans and that is MacKeane. I suppose the pronunciation depends on the accent oif who said it and who heard it!! Regards Keith in South Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: <HHMc@aol.com> To: <McQUEEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 6:35 AM Subject: [McQUEEN] The WILL OF DUGAL MACQUEEN > I hope this will some you, my McQueen family > > WILL OF DUGAL MACQUAIN > more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx ==== McQUEEN Mailing List ==== To Unsubscribe: Click on mailto:McQueen-L-request@rootsweb.com to create a new message with UNSUBSCRIBE as the *only* text in the message, and as the subject. Contact Valorie: mailto:McQueen-admin@rootsweb.com with any questions, list problems, or virus warnings. ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

I have put much thought to this reply. Keith you have supported my information more than you might think. Dugal was with James McQueen as a sub clan at Preston. We all know that he fought at Preston and was taken prisoner there with the others. I did not say his brother Alexander was transported with him, only that he had a brother Alexander, although the Hector aboard ship could well be a younger brother. As for the English transporting troublemaker families together, I have run across it in other research. Guess they didn't think people in chains and half starved would be much trouble. The ship Friendship landed in Baltimore not Boston, when Dugal was aboard. Dugal and the others were sold in Baltimore. We also, know that Dugal was in the Inverness area, which is where Corryborough and Pollocraig are located. In fact these two locations are not that far from each other. I have been in direct contact with John McQueen of USA & Germany and he has the deeds, wills and other records that provide the information that I provided in part. I'm sure if you have a contact in Scotland, they would be able to help verify what I listed. Someday I hope to be able to travel there myself. Until then, I am, like many of us that use the internet, limited to the kindness of others and their hard work to further the search. I am descended from William 1, Dugal's son that received the "Fear nothing coat". My line is William 1, William 2, John, Matilda, Sarah, Thomas, John and me, Jane. Jane in Ohio > ----- Original Message ----- > From: K & P Clark > To: McQUEEN-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 10:09 PM > Subject: Re: [McQUEEN] The family history > > > Hi All, > > The first from Henry on the history of the Stuarts (nice to hear from you > again Henry) and secondly from jcgrezlik (sorry I don't know your name), > both relating to that very elusive Dugal McQueen. > > I have very little in depth knowledge of American History so I will not > presume to make any comment on Dugal after his arrival in Maryland aboard > the "Friendship", along with four other McQueen prisoners, in 1716. > Now where do the McQueens come into all this? The McQueens (or son of > Swein) were a vassal clan to the Clan Chattan and originated, as we all > know, from the Isles of Skye and Rassay. They were later raised to the > status of a minor Clan under John McQueen in 1609 when he signed the Clan > Chattan Band in his own right as a Chief of all the McQueens and was granted > land near Moy in the shire of Inverness. > > Apart from the odd Clan skirmish nothing relevant happened to the McQueens > until early 1714 when James McQueen of Corryborough and his men joined Lord > Mar's regiment which had mustered at Leuchars Castle in Fife under > Mackintosh of Borlum's Army. They were mainly used to collect levies and > taxes in Perth, Kinross and Fife and were notoriously regarded there as > "wyld Hielandmen", even though some must have settled there as the McQueen > name begins to appear in Kirk Records at that time. > > After that some went on to fight at Sheriffmuir (which was a Jacobite > victory although they didn't know it!!) and the Second Battle of Preston. > At Preston the Jacobite Army was defeated and the English said they could > retain their arms and go home. However the perfidious English renigged on > their promise and took those survivors captive imprisoning them in Preston > Parish Church, where some of their names and other graffiti can still be > seen carved into the stonework. So badly were they treated that the local > people had to sneak food into the church to feed them before they were > "tried" and transported to "The Colonies". (This seemed to be a popular way > for the English to get rid of any insurgents, as many were also transported > to "The Colonies" after the Covenanters invaded England and were defeated > at the First Battle of Preston in 1648!!) In all about nine McQueens were > transported in 1716. > > McQueen support for the 1745 was somewhat less enthusiastic even though the > "Muster Roll of Prince Edward Charles's Army" shows Alexander Mcqueen in > the Athol Brigade, Donald in Pitsligo's Light Horse, John in the Gordons, > Angus with the MacLeods, William of Corryborough with the Mackintoshes and > another Alexander with the McPhersons. > > I would venture to suggest that Dugal, along with the other McQueens > transported, would have been of peasant stock and fighting because of > allegiance to their Laird, James McQueen of Corryborough, otherwise they > would have been sent back to London for summary execution as were other > "Chiefs & Nobles". > > All in all I would like to believe that Dugal McQueen came from Pollocraig, > but without further proof I doubt it. > As for Dugal having brothers "Alexander and perhaps Hector", this again > should be treated with suspicion as Alexander and Hector were two of the > other prisoners onboard the "Friendship" with him. I doubt if the English > would have shipped 'brothers' together in case they caused trouble and > insurgency on the voyage!! > > I have further literature on this period. > > Regards...Keith in South Australia > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <dlr11@comcast.net> > To: <McQUEEN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 6:08 AM > Subject: Re: [McQUEEN] About info found at "Church of Jesus Christ of Later > Day Saints " > > > > Thanks Andi > > I have found the same problems. > > Please don't post, edit or down load information that has not been > verfied. > > There is so much WRONG information on the net. > > =14599&targetid=5429 > > > ==== McQUEEN Mailing List ==== > To ask for a lookup or volunteer to do acts of genealogical kindness, > visit Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness, http://www.RAOGK.org > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. 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I hope this will some you, my McQueen family WILL OF DUGAL MACQUAIN Baltimore County: In the name of God amen. Know ye that I, Dugal Macquain, being very sick and weak but of sound and perfect mind and memory, but calling to mind the mortality of man and knowing that it is appointed for all men once to die, do make and ordain this my last will and testament. In pais res: I give and bequeath my soul into the hands of almighty God that gave it to me and my body to be decently buried according to the discretion of my executrix. Item: My will and pleasure is that my son William shall have my "FEAR NOTHING COAT" and my new jacket. Item: I give and bequeath unto my son Thomas all wearing cloaths except my white coat which I give unto my son-in-law John Brown. Further my will and pleasure is that the bond which I have of John Rees to be signed over to Mr. Alexander Lawson for security for the money which I owe unto him. And lastly of all my will and pleasure is that my well beloved wife, Grace Macquain shall be my whole and sole executrix of this my last will and testament. In witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal this twenty six day of March in the year of our Lord seventeen hundred and forty six. His Dugal Macquain - Seal The ''Fear Nothing Coat" , a large kilted, a belted-plaid garment which was doubled into two folds, totally enveloping the person underneath. This provided the Scottish hunter and soldier enough shelter that he could wrap himself and lay down " fearlessly among the heather". Sons William and Francis McQueen inherited an equal divison of their father's lands he called "Cranberry Plains." William sold one-half of the track to Joost Runkles for 25 pounds on November 15, 1757. Francis was not mentioned so he is thought to have died. Willian sold the remaining one-half to Daniel Zacharias on May 11, 1761. Dugal McQueen was raised in the Highlands of Scotland. Prior 1707,Scotland made its own laws and her Kingdom was ruled by the Royal House of Stuart. In 1707, a British parliment passed the Act Of Union, uniting the countries of England, Scotland, and Wales under the British Crown. The Royal House of Stuart was dissolved. Scottish Highlanders remained loyal to the Royal House of Stuart and resolved to seperate themselves from England. The Highlanders began to be called Jacobites, after Jacobius, the Latin name for their leader James Edward Stuart. In 1715, the political situation in Britain led the Jacobites to believe they could reinstate the Stuart dynasty. On September 6, 1715, Dugal McQueen, Alexander, David, and Hector McQueen joined others in proclaiming Stuart King. On Sunday, November 13, 1715, British and Jacobites met on the battle field at Sheriffmuir. Jacobite forces were barely defeated and retreated to fight later that day in the Battle of Preston, fought at Preston, Lancashire. On November 14, 1715 Dugal McQueen along with McQueen's previously mentioned were captured. (Relationship unknown) Scottish Highlanders were known for their attachment to their land. Knowing this, British authorities, in order to minimize futher problems in the area, shipped many of them to American plantations and sold them into bondage. Dugal McQueen and the other McQueens were sold into bondage and shipped to the colonies. TheComplete Book of Immigrants reads; May 17, 1716, Shipper by the ''Friendship'', Mr Michael Mankin, Bound from Liverpool, England to Boston Mass. Another entry, ''Friendship'', left May 24, 1716 and arrived August 20, 1716, Master Micheal Mankin, with 80 prisoners. Dugal McQueen would not have completed his seven year bondage until 1723, when most bonded servants would be granted land, McQueen was not granted land until 1740. By 1732, he was a taxable in the upper 100 of the Cliff, Calvert County, Maryland. On October 9, 1739, he received a warrant from the Provence of Maryland for seventy two acres of land and on September 2, 1740, he received his land deed while at the County Court in Charles County. The deed states that Dugal was from Prince Georges, County, but the land was located in Baltimore County. The land was first in Baltimore County., then Frederick County., then [now] Carroll County near Westminster. He was almost surrounded by George and Mary [Stevenson] Brown property. Their son , John Brown married one of Dugal's daughters Henry H. McQueen www.McQueenAuctioneers.com Office 318- 869-1988

I know not to put a lot of credence into any idea in genealogy of following only a spelling variant... in most cases it seems to be a "distinction without a difference"... Just to give an an example, my Haire ancestors seem to have happily feuded for a number of generations now over whether the name should be spelled Hare, Hair or Haire. And as far as I can trace them my Spear ancestors used only Spear... but I'm quite certain that if I could trace them any further it would have been as Spier or Speir. But my grandmother was quite definite that her mother's family spelled McQueen as "McQuien" and my research into Georgia (U.S.A.) records back to the 1840s (I can trace back only as far as my 3-great grandfather John D. McQuien, in Sumter County, Georgia, in the 1840 U.S. census) confirms that that spelling did show up... along with McQuean and McQueen. In those days, though, the spelling used was determined by the clerk or other official who wrote it down, but that the McQuien spelling showed up at all seems to me to confirm what grandma told me... not that I would doubt grandma, now mind you. <G> In looking at surnames in Scotland these days I do see numerous instances of the McQuien spelling and there seems to be a geographical locus to it... that is to say I don't see it much if at all around Skye but I do see it... here's where I hit a hole in my memory (it's been awhile since I did the "looking")... either in Ayr or Argyl. This is just one of those "round ideas".... I'm throwing it out to see if it rolls anywhere. Does anyone have any actual knowledge of any kind of a genealogical distinction based on this "McQuien" spelling variant? Notes: John D. McQuien married Sarah McMullen in Cumberland County, North Carolina, on 29 September 1814. Their children included my 2-great grandmother Mary McQuien Autry, Angus McQuien and John A. McQuean... and possibly others. The earliest birth date I have is circa 1823 for John A., so it is likely that there were older children who did not make the move from Cumberland County to Sumter County with John... Mary apparently died before 1840. Richard White Tallahassee, Florida

Good luck on your searching. I wish I could travel like that but with a family and home hard to get to real records. I may phone you sometimes to say "Hi cousin" regards, Patricia ----- Original Message ----- From: HHMc@aol.com To: McQUEEN-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 9:58 PM Subject: [McQUEEN] Dugal McQueen I agree with you Keith, Dianne and Andi it is easy to take a piece of information hope it is what you are looking for. I have been there. I go State to State checking all out that is the only way.From 18 years of pouring over public records in Courthouses and other records. I have gone as far as I can here in U.S. on My McQueen family. I also am form Dugal McQueen., Thomas, John, David, John, Grandfather George Monroe McQueen, and my dad A. E. McQueen Henry H. McQueen www.McQueenAuctioneers.com Office 318- 869-1988 ==== McQUEEN Mailing List ==== Need help writing *excellent* queries? Check out http://www.ancestry.com/library/view/news/articles/503.asp Dated, but also good: http://www.rootsweb.com/~surnames/goodbad ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Yes indeed spelling varied particularly in the US so far from the original source it was only natural. As long as we can trace our people in the flesh(sorry only bones now) if anything left. But you know what I mean if you can get near the real people even though spelling changes a bit, we must try to stay close to the real people and place of origin. McQueen has a lot of changes but I am not far from the original source, born Dublin, Ireland grandfather born Liverpool one evening away by boat mail and from the Liverpool census to the Scots census not far away either. As Shakespeare said "A rose by any other name would smell as sweet" is that true? Good luck hunting. You are far in years and miles from the original source so keep the faith, believe your grandmom, so McQueen it is. I suppose one can change the name again if its possible? Cheers, Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard White To: McQUEEN-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 10:46 AM Subject: [McQUEEN] McQuien (spelling variant) I know not to put a lot of credence into any idea in genealogy of following only a spelling variant... in most cases it seems to be a "distinction without a difference"... Just to give an an example, my Haire ancestors seem to have happily feuded for a number of generations now over whether the name should be spelled Hare, Hair or Haire. And as far as I can trace them my Spear ancestors used only Spear... but I'm quite certain that if I could trace them any further it would have been as Spier or Speir. But my grandmother was quite definite that her mother's family spelled McQueen as "McQuien" and my research into Georgia (U.S.A.) records back to the 1840s (I can trace back only as far as my 3-great grandfather John D. McQuien, in Sumter County, Georgia, in the 1840 U.S. census) confirms that that spelling did show up... along with McQuean and McQueen. In those days, though, the spelling used was determined by the clerk or other official who wrote it down, but that the McQuien spelling showed up at all seems to me to confirm what grandma told me... not that I would doubt grandma, now mind you. <G> In looking at surnames in Scotland these days I do see numerous instances of the McQuien spelling and there seems to be a geographical locus to it... that is to say I don't see it much if at all around Skye but I do see it... here's where I hit a hole in my memory (it's been awhile since I did the "looking")... either in Ayr or Argyl. This is just one of those "round ideas".... I'm throwing it out to see if it rolls anywhere. Does anyone have any actual knowledge of any kind of a genealogical distinction based on this "McQuien" spelling variant? Notes: John D. McQuien married Sarah McMullen in Cumberland County, North Carolina, on 29 September 1814. Their children included my 2-great grandmother Mary McQuien Autry, Angus McQuien and John A. McQuean... and possibly others. The earliest birth date I have is circa 1823 for John A., so it is likely that there were older children who did not make the move from Cumberland County to Sumter County with John... Mary apparently died before 1840. Richard White Tallahassee, Florida ==== McQUEEN Mailing List ==== To Unsubscribe: Click on mailto:McQueen-L-request@rootsweb.com to create a new message with UNSUBSCRIBE as the *only* text in the message, and as the subject. Contact Valorie: mailto:McQueen-admin@rootsweb.com with any questions, list problems, or virus warnings. ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

I agree with you Keith, Dianne and Andi it is easy to take a piece of information hope it is what you are looking for. I have been there. I go State to State checking all out that is the only way.From 18 years of pouring over public records in Courthouses and other records. I have gone as far as I can here in U.S. on My McQueen family. I also am form Dugal McQueen., Thomas, John, David, John, Grandfather George Monroe McQueen, and my dad A. E. McQueen Henry H. McQueen www.McQueenAuctioneers.com Office 318- 869-1988

Thanks K & P Your information cleared up some things about Dugal McQueen. I think you may be right but I have no other history about that time. I would like to learn more about the subject, maybe get a library book or two. I never knew anything about the McQueens really except my grandfather born in Liverpool Owen 1876 with two brothers. The family migrated from WIG in 1850s in the 186a census of Liverpool. The earliest one my gggrandfather Owen McQueen said born in Ireland or Kirkinner so I cant go back any further as I would like. Even ifhe was born NI I still think they were Scots as many Scots were brought into NI or emigrated themselves in earlier times with or without the Mc as some people think the Mc itself makes them Scots, not so, the British prohibited the use of the Mc or encouraged it anyway and many brought it back after a time. ----- Original Message ----- From: K & P Clark To: McQUEEN-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 10:09 PM Subject: Re: [McQUEEN] The family history Hi All, I agree with Dianne and Andi that it is all to easy to take a piece of information and if it fits in with our various researches then continue to perpetuate it as a truth and in no time it has been assumed by others to be concrete evidence!!! There have been a couple of instances recently where data supplied has not, in my humble opinion, been strictly accurate. The first from Henry on the history of the Stuarts (nice to hear from you again Henry) and secondly from jcgrezlik (sorry I don't know your name), both relating to that very elusive Dugal McQueen. I have very little in depth knowledge of American History so I will not presume to make any comment on Dugal after his arrival in Maryland aboard the "Friendship", along with four other McQueen prisoners, in 1716. There are, however, many authoritative books on the Stuarts and the events leading up to the Jacobite uprisings, which began as early as 1688 with the Glorious Revolution and even prior to that with Montrose and the Covenantors in the "Bishop's Wars' of the 1640's. In the main these wars were fought not by Highlander against Lowlander but by religious groups - The Roman Catholics (some even brought over from Ireland) against the Presbyterians and The Covenant (or vice versa!). Many battles were fought in the name of religion with the Covenant motto being "Jesus and no quarter". This blood thirstiness put off many of their supporters and after the Battle of Kilsyth for example the Kirk Records state 200 widows were left in the town and many wounded. This period of rebellion ended with Montrose's defeat at Philiphaugh in 1645 when to get their own back the Presbyterian Army threw soldiers and female camp followers, wives and children off the bridge and then shot them as they tried to get out further down stream!!!!!. If you will indulge me I will attempt to give a thumb nail sketch of the events. As Henry said, the Stuart line in England began in 1603 with James V1 of Scotland who was son of the Catholic Mary Queen of Scots and therefore cousin to Queen Elizabeth 1 of England. After the death of his cousin, Elizabeth 1, he was proclaimed James 1 of England by virtue of the Treaty of Berwick that he had signed with his cousin Elizabeth in 1568. In Scotland he retained his title as James V1 of Scotland (as did his grandson James 11 & V11 who gave his name to the Jacobites). The Stuart Dynasty continued right through until Queen Anne's death in 1714 (apart from the brief "Commonwealth" of Oliver & Richard Cromwell 1649-1659). When she died without heir in 1714, in spite of having borne seventeen children, George 1 of the House of Hanover, took over the throne leading in part to the uprisings of 1715 & 1745. At various times during Queen Anne's reign she was also embroiled in plots to restore her father James 11 and V11. Now where do the McQueens come into all this? The McQueens (or son of Swein) were a vassal clan to the Clan Chattan and originated, as we all know, from the Isles of Skye and Rassay. They were later raised to the status of a minor Clan under John McQueen in 1609 when he signed the Clan Chattan Band in his own right as a Chief of all the McQueens and was granted land near Moy in the shire of Inverness. Apart from the odd Clan skirmish nothing relevant happened to the McQueens until early 1714 when James McQueen of Corryborough and his men joined Lord Mar's regiment which had mustered at Leuchars Castle in Fife under Mackintosh of Borlum's Army. They were mainly used to collect levies and taxes in Perth, Kinross and Fife and were notoriously regarded there as "wyld Hielandmen", even though some must have settled there as the McQueen name begins to appear in Kirk Records at that time. After that some went on to fight at Sheriffmuir (which was a Jacobite victory although they didn't know it!!) and the Second Battle of Preston. At Preston the Jacobite Army was defeated and the English said they could retain their arms and go home. However the perfidious English renigged on their promise and took those survivors captive imprisoning them in Preston Parish Church, where some of their names and other graffiti can still be seen carved into the stonework. So badly were they treated that the local people had to sneak food into the church to feed them before they were "tried" and transported to "The Colonies". (This seemed to be a popular way for the English to get rid of any insurgents, as many were also transported to "The Colonies" after the Covenanters invaded England and were defeated at the First Battle of Preston in 1648!!) In all about nine McQueens were transported in 1716. McQueen support for the 1745 was somewhat less enthusiastic even though the "Muster Roll of Prince Edward Charles's Army" shows Alexander Mcqueen in the Athol Brigade, Donald in Pitsligo's Light Horse, John in the Gordons, Angus with the MacLeods, William of Corryborough with the Mackintoshes and another Alexander with the McPhersons. I would venture to suggest that Dugal, along with the other McQueens transported, would have been of peasant stock and fighting because of allegiance to their Laird, James McQueen of Corryborough, otherwise they would have been sent back to London for summary execution as were other "Chiefs & Nobles". All in all I would like to believe that Dugal McQueen came from Pollocraig, but without further proof I doubt it. As for Dugal having brothers "Alexander and perhaps Hector", this again should be treated with suspicion as Alexander and Hector were two of the other prisoners onboard the "Friendship" with him. I doubt if the English would have shipped 'brothers' together in case they caused trouble and insurgency on the voyage!! I have further literature on this period. Regards...Keith in South Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: <dlr11@comcast.net> To: <McQUEEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 6:08 AM Subject: Re: [McQUEEN] About info found at "Church of Jesus Christ of Later Day Saints " > Thanks Andi > I have found the same problems. > Please don't post, edit or down load information that has not been verfied. > There is so much WRONG information on the net. > =14599&targetid=5429 ==== McQUEEN Mailing List ==== To ask for a lookup or volunteer to do acts of genealogical kindness, visit Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness, http://www.RAOGK.org ============================== Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx

Hi All, I agree with Dianne and Andi that it is all to easy to take a piece of information and if it fits in with our various researches then continue to perpetuate it as a truth and in no time it has been assumed by others to be concrete evidence!!! There have been a couple of instances recently where data supplied has not, in my humble opinion, been strictly accurate. The first from Henry on the history of the Stuarts (nice to hear from you again Henry) and secondly from jcgrezlik (sorry I don't know your name), both relating to that very elusive Dugal McQueen. I have very little in depth knowledge of American History so I will not presume to make any comment on Dugal after his arrival in Maryland aboard the "Friendship", along with four other McQueen prisoners, in 1716. There are, however, many authoritative books on the Stuarts and the events leading up to the Jacobite uprisings, which began as early as 1688 with the Glorious Revolution and even prior to that with Montrose and the Covenantors in the "Bishop's Wars' of the 1640's. In the main these wars were fought not by Highlander against Lowlander but by religious groups - The Roman Catholics (some even brought over from Ireland) against the Presbyterians and The Covenant (or vice versa!). Many battles were fought in the name of religion with the Covenant motto being "Jesus and no quarter". This blood thirstiness put off many of their supporters and after the Battle of Kilsyth for example the Kirk Records state 200 widows were left in the town and many wounded. This period of rebellion ended with Montrose's defeat at Philiphaugh in 1645 when to get their own back the Presbyterian Army threw soldiers and female camp followers, wives and children off the bridge and then shot them as they tried to get out further down stream!!!!!. If you will indulge me I will attempt to give a thumb nail sketch of the events. As Henry said, the Stuart line in England began in 1603 with James V1 of Scotland who was son of the Catholic Mary Queen of Scots and therefore cousin to Queen Elizabeth 1 of England. After the death of his cousin, Elizabeth 1, he was proclaimed James 1 of England by virtue of the Treaty of Berwick that he had signed with his cousin Elizabeth in 1568. In Scotland he retained his title as James V1 of Scotland (as did his grandson James 11 & V11 who gave his name to the Jacobites). The Stuart Dynasty continued right through until Queen Anne's death in 1714 (apart from the brief "Commonwealth" of Oliver & Richard Cromwell 1649-1659). When she died without heir in 1714, in spite of having borne seventeen children, George 1 of the House of Hanover, took over the throne leading in part to the uprisings of 1715 & 1745. At various times during Queen Anne's reign she was also embroiled in plots to restore her father James 11 and V11. Now where do the McQueens come into all this? The McQueens (or son of Swein) were a vassal clan to the Clan Chattan and originated, as we all know, from the Isles of Skye and Rassay. They were later raised to the status of a minor Clan under John McQueen in 1609 when he signed the Clan Chattan Band in his own right as a Chief of all the McQueens and was granted land near Moy in the shire of Inverness. Apart from the odd Clan skirmish nothing relevant happened to the McQueens until early 1714 when James McQueen of Corryborough and his men joined Lord Mar's regiment which had mustered at Leuchars Castle in Fife under Mackintosh of Borlum's Army. They were mainly used to collect levies and taxes in Perth, Kinross and Fife and were notoriously regarded there as "wyld Hielandmen", even though some must have settled there as the McQueen name begins to appear in Kirk Records at that time. After that some went on to fight at Sheriffmuir (which was a Jacobite victory although they didn't know it!!) and the Second Battle of Preston. At Preston the Jacobite Army was defeated and the English said they could retain their arms and go home. However the perfidious English renigged on their promise and took those survivors captive imprisoning them in Preston Parish Church, where some of their names and other graffiti can still be seen carved into the stonework. So badly were they treated that the local people had to sneak food into the church to feed them before they were "tried" and transported to "The Colonies". (This seemed to be a popular way for the English to get rid of any insurgents, as many were also transported to "The Colonies" after the Covenanters invaded England and were defeated at the First Battle of Preston in 1648!!) In all about nine McQueens were transported in 1716. McQueen support for the 1745 was somewhat less enthusiastic even though the "Muster Roll of Prince Edward Charles's Army" shows Alexander Mcqueen in the Athol Brigade, Donald in Pitsligo's Light Horse, John in the Gordons, Angus with the MacLeods, William of Corryborough with the Mackintoshes and another Alexander with the McPhersons. I would venture to suggest that Dugal, along with the other McQueens transported, would have been of peasant stock and fighting because of allegiance to their Laird, James McQueen of Corryborough, otherwise they would have been sent back to London for summary execution as were other "Chiefs & Nobles". All in all I would like to believe that Dugal McQueen came from Pollocraig, but without further proof I doubt it. As for Dugal having brothers "Alexander and perhaps Hector", this again should be treated with suspicion as Alexander and Hector were two of the other prisoners onboard the "Friendship" with him. I doubt if the English would have shipped 'brothers' together in case they caused trouble and insurgency on the voyage!! I have further literature on this period. Regards...Keith in South Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: <dlr11@comcast.net> To: <McQUEEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 6:08 AM Subject: Re: [McQUEEN] About info found at "Church of Jesus Christ of Later Day Saints " > Thanks Andi > I have found the same problems. > Please don't post, edit or down load information that has not been verfied. > There is so much WRONG information on the net. > =14599&targetid=5429