More....... Descendants of John McQueen Generation No. 1 1. JOHN1 MCQUEEN He married HELEN BUCHANAN 1722 in Ballachraggan, Perthshire. Children of JOHN MCQUEEN and HELEN BUCHANAN are: 2. i. ARCHIBALD2 MCQUEEN, b. 1737; d. 1789, Doune, Perthshire. ii. KATHERINE MCQUEEN, b. 1743. 3. iii. JAMES MCQUEEN, d. 1797. Generation No. 2 2. ARCHIBALD2 MCQUEEN (JOHN1) was born 1737, and died 1789 in Doune, Perthshire. He married (1) JANET MCGRIGOR. She was born 1746, and died 1817. He married (2) JANET DRUMMOND 1765 in Balvorist. Children of ARCHIBALD MCQUEEN and JANET MCGRIGOR are: i. AGNES3 MCQUEEN, b. 1781. ii. PETER MCQUEEN, b. 1784. Children of ARCHIBALD MCQUEEN and JANET DRUMMOND are: 4. iii. CATHERINE3 MCQUEEN, b. 1766; d. 1828. 5. iv. JOHN MCQUEEN, b. 1768, Balvorist. v. ELEN MCQUEEN, b. 1771. 6. vi. ARCHIBALD MACQUEEN, b. 1775, Balvorist; d. 1863, Salisbury, Wilts. 7. vii. PETER MCQUEEN, b. 1784. 3. JAMES2 MCQUEEN (JOHN1) died 1797. He married MARION AIKMAN 1764. Children of JAMES MCQUEEN and MARION AIKMAN are: i. MARGARET3 MCQUEEN, b. 1765. ii. JOHN MCQUEEN, b. 1769. iii. HELEN MCQUEEN, b. 1772. iv. ROBERT MCQUEEN, b. 1775. v. JANET MCQUEEN, b. 1778. vi. JEAN MCQUEEN, b. 1781. vii. ELIZABETH MCQUEEN. viii. KATHERINE MCQUEEN, b. 1787. ix. MARION MCQUEEN, b. 1793. Generation No. 3 4. CATHERINE3 MCQUEEN (ARCHIBALD2, JOHN1) was born 1766, and died 1828. She married JAMES STEWART. He was born in Blacklands. Child of CATHERINE MCQUEEN and JAMES STEWART is: i. ISSUE4. 5. JOHN3 MCQUEEN (ARCHIBALD2, JOHN1) was born 1768 in Balvorist. He married MARGARET STEWART 1797. She was born in Bracklands. Children of JOHN MCQUEEN and MARGARET STEWART are: i. ALEXANDER4 MCQUEEN, b. 1815. ii. JOHN MCQUEEN, b. 1812. iii. ELEN MCQUEEN, b. 1810. iv. MARGARET MCQUEEN, b. 1807. v. JAMES MCQUEEN, b. 1805. vi. JANET MCQUEEN, b. 1803. vii. JOHN MCQUEEN, b. 1802. 8. viii. ARCHIBALD MCQUEEN, b. 1800; d. 1863, Doune, Perthshire. ix. CHRISTIAN MCQUEEN, b. 1798. 6. ARCHIBALD3 MACQUEEN (ARCHIBALD2 MCQUEEN, JOHN1) was born 1775 in Balvorist, and died 1863 in Salisbury, Wilts. He married MARY KNIGHT. She was born 1793, and died 1840 in Sonning on Thames. Children of ARCHIBALD MACQUEEN and MARY KNIGHT are: i. MARY ANNE4 MACQUEEN. 9. ii. JANNETTE MACQUEEN. iii. JAMES ARCHIBALD MACQUEEN, b. 1826. 10. iv. JOHN MACQUEEN, b. 1828. 11. v. HENRY MACQUEEN, b. 1830; d. 1906, Henley on Thames. 12. vi. WALTER MACQUEEN, b. 1837; d. Brentford. vii. JANE MACQUEEN, b. 1835. 13. viii. ARCHIBALD MACQUEEN, b. 1837; d. 1899, Shirley. 7. PETER3 MCQUEEN (ARCHIBALD2, JOHN1) was born 1784. He married CATHERINE CULLEN 1819. Children of PETER MCQUEEN and CATHERINE CULLEN are: i. HELEN4 MCQUEEN, b. 1827. ii. CHARLOTTE DOWNARD MCQUEEN, b. 1838; d. 1922. iii. JANE MCQUEEN, m. DRYSDALE(?). iv. JANET MCQUEEN, b. 1821. 14. v. ARCHIBALD MCQUEEN, b. 1823; d. 1894, Doune, Perthshire. vi. CATHERINE MCQUEEN, b. 1819. Generation No. 4 8. ARCHIBALD4 MCQUEEN (JOHN3, ARCHIBALD2, JOHN1) was born 1800, and died 1863 in Doune, Perthshire. He married JANET PATTERSON 1842. She was born 1806, and died 1877 in Doune, Perthshire. Children of ARCHIBALD MCQUEEN and JANET PATTERSON are: i. GEORGE CUPPLES5 MCQUEEN, b. 1843, Kilmadock; d. Abt. 1923, Welshpool; m. (1) ...; m. (2) SELINA. ii. ROBERT ARCHIBALD MCQUEEN, b. 1850. iii. MARGARET MCQUEEN. iv. AGNES MCFARLANE MCQUEEN, b. 1845. 9. JANNETTE4 MACQUEEN (ARCHIBALD3, ARCHIBALD2 MCQUEEN, JOHN1) She married WILLIAM STEWART. He was born 1811 in Elgin, Edinburgh. Children of JANNETTE MACQUEEN and WILLIAM STEWART are: i. MARY FLORENCE5 STEWART, b. 1848. ii. EVALINE JANETTE STEWART, d. 1938. 10. JOHN4 MACQUEEN (ARCHIBALD3, ARCHIBALD2 MCQUEEN, JOHN1) was born 1828. He married ANNE MOSSOP. She was born in Rollington Hall. Children of JOHN MACQUEEN and ANNE MOSSOP are: i. ARCHIBALD5 MACQUEEN, b. 1868; m. DORA INSKIP; b. Framlington, Norfolk. ii. MARY MACQUEEN, b. 1870; d. 1925. iii. ANNIE MACQUEEN, b. 1872; d. Rusapi, Rhodesia; m. CARON LLOYD. iv. JOHN HENRY MACQUEEN, m. (1) BETTY LAYCOCK; d. 1910; m. (2) ......... 11. HENRY4 MACQUEEN (ARCHIBALD3, ARCHIBALD2 MCQUEEN, JOHN1) was born 1830, and died 1906 in Henley on Thames. He married ELIZABETH FRYER. She was born 1833 in Langley, Bucks. Children of HENRY MACQUEEN and ELIZABETH FRYER are: i. ARCHIBALD HENRY5 MACQUEEN, b. 1854. ii. WALTER FAIRCHILD MACQUEEN, b. 1856. iii. JANNETTE ELIZABETH MACQUEEN, b. 1858; m. VICTOR EMANUEL BLACKMORE; b. Tiverton, Devon. iv. MARY EVALINE JANE MACQUEEN, b. 1860. v. HARRY MACQUEEN, b. 1862. vi. JOHN MACQUEEN, b. 1865; d. 1952; m. ELIZABETH STALLWOOD, 1896. vii. ERNEST JAMES MACQUEEN, b. 1857. viii. ADA JEMIMA MACQUEEN, b. 1869. ix. WILLIAM STEWART MACQUEEN, b. 1871. x. FREDERICK MACQUEEN, b. 1875; m. LAURA. 12. WALTER4 MACQUEEN (ARCHIBALD3, ARCHIBALD2 MCQUEEN, JOHN1) was born 1837, and died in Brentford. He married HELEN. Children of WALTER MACQUEEN and HELEN are: i. ARCHIBALD5 MACQUEEN, b. 1858; d. 1934. ii. MOLLY MACQUEEN, b. 1859. iii. WALTER EDWARD MACQUEEN, b. 1860. iv. ARTHUR JAMES MACQUEEN, b. 1860. 13. ARCHIBALD4 MACQUEEN (ARCHIBALD3, ARCHIBALD2 MCQUEEN, JOHN1) was born 1837, and died 1899 in Shirley. He married LUCY HENRIETTA MARSON. She was born 1848 in Stafford, and died 1931. Children of ARCHIBALD MACQUEEN and LUCY MARSON are: i. PERCY5 MACQUEEN, b. 1886; m. (1) W.RICHMOND; m. (2) CECILY ROBINSON NEE MCMASTER. ii. FLORENCE LUCIE MACQUEEN, b. 05 Jan 1885, Southampton, Hants; m. (1) EDWARD HERBERT MOSTYN WATKINS, 1913, Bath; b. 1885; d. 1924, Rio de Janeiro; m. (2) ARTHUR MOSTYN WATKINS, 1925, Humansdorp, Cape Province, South Africa; b. 1878; d. 1936, Cape Town, South Africa. 14. ARCHIBALD4 MCQUEEN (PETER3, ARCHIBALD2, JOHN1) was born 1823, and died 1894 in Doune, Perthshire. Children of ARCHIBALD MCQUEEN are: i. CHARLOTTE CATHERINE5 MCQUEEN, b. 1866; d. 1867. ii. CATHERINE CULLEN MCQUEEN, b. 1868; d. 1947, Doune, Perthshire. iii. JANET JANE GOWER MCQUEEN, b. 1871; d. 1932. iv. MARY ELIZABETH MCQUEEN, b. 1873; m. PHILP CRIE; b. Letchworth. v. HELEN CHARLOTTE MCQUEEN, b. 1876; d. 1906. sincerely Dawn

Hi Jeri I transcribed some of the content and the start of that tree is here... Descendants of Patrick McQueen Generation No. 1 1. PATRICK1 MCQUEEN was born 1683 in Doune, and died 1732 in Doune. He married ...... MURDOCH. Child of PATRICK MCQUEEN and ...... MURDOCH is: 2. i. JOHN2 MCQUEEN, b. 1725, Doune; d. 1783, Blairlogie. Generation No. 2 2. JOHN2 MCQUEEN (PATRICK1) was born 1725 in Doune, and died 1783 in Blairlogie. He married ISABELLA BRYCE. She was born in Dunblane. Child of JOHN MCQUEEN and ISABELLA BRYCE is: 3. i. JOHN3 MCQUEEN, b. 1766, Blairlogie; d. 1833, Causewayhead. Generation No. 3 3. JOHN3 MCQUEEN (JOHN2, PATRICK1) was born 1766 in Blairlogie, and died 1833 in Causewayhead. He married ELIZABETH ROBERTSON 1803 in Edinburgh. She was born in Colinton, Midlothian. More About JOHN MCQUEEN and ELIZABETH ROBERTSON: Marriage: 1803, Edinburgh Children of JOHN MCQUEEN and ELIZABETH ROBERTSON are: 4. i. JOHN4 MCQUEEN, b. 1804; d. 1849. ii. ELIZABETH MCQUEEN, b. 1807. iii. ISABELLA MCQUEEN, b. 1812. iv. JAMES MCQUEEN, b. 1814. Generation No. 4 4. JOHN4 MCQUEEN (JOHN3, JOHN2, PATRICK1) was born 1804, and died 1849. He married CATHARINE NEVILE WYATT 1835 in Calcutta. She was born 1816, and died 1874. More About JOHN MCQUEEN and CATHARINE WYATT: Marriage: 1835, Calcutta Children of JOHN MCQUEEN and CATHARINE WYATT are: i. LT.GENERAL JOHN WITHERS5 MCQUEEN, b. 1836, Calcutta; d. 1909; m. CHARLOTTE HELEN POLLARD; b. 1853; d. 1937. More About LT.GENERAL JOHN WITHERS MCQUEEN: Fact 1: Bangal Staff Corps Fact 2: KCB; Fact 3: ADC to Queen Victoria ii. JAMES NEVILE MCQUEEN, b. 1838; d. 1902, London. More About JAMES NEVILE MCQUEEN: Fact 1: Indigo Planter in Behar Fact 2: Rowed in Boat race for Oxford 1859 Fact 3: B.A. Oxon Fact 4: Indian Police iii. WILLIAM MUSTON MCQUEEN, b. 1839; d. 1912, Kew. More About WILLIAM MUSTON MCQUEEN: Fact 1: Indigo Planter in Behar if that is helpful, then your next step would be to write to the Society of Genealogists in London and ask them if there is any chance of something being done for you. Both books are handwritten. One is in note form and focussed on the english Macqueens, difficult and probably not necessary to copy as a lot of it does not relate to Doune. I made some notes from it when I visited. The other is A3 size and contains several charts + a couple of hand drawn maps. They did copy this one for me some years ago for a fee and posted it out. sincerely Dawn

Patricia here I go again. Are you in touch with Graham Bisset? I have been going through old stuff and found this email which was posted on the mcqueen list on 16th Nov 2003. His email address then was _gmfbisset@freeuk.com_ (mailto:gmfbisset@freeuk.com) and you are connected to him! Here is the transcript...... Hi there, fellow listers! I have managed to trace one arm of my lineage back to Owen McQueen (also named Queen or Quinn in records found thus far), born around 1816 in Kirkinner, Wigtown. From what I already know, Owen married Margaret Copeland on 22 June 1837 in Mochrum, Wigtown. I believe they had 6 children, all born in Mochrum. These are Elizabeth McQueen (born circa 1838), Peter McQueen (born 25 Sept 1839), James McQueen (1) (born 1st Dec 1841), Margaret McQueen (born circa 1844), John McQueen (born 7 April 1846) and James McQueen (2) (born 23 May 1848). James McQueen (2) went on to marry Ellen Doyle on 10 April 1870 in Liverpool. I am now seeking further information on Owen McQueen and of course any earlier generations. I would be grateful if anyone has any information or clues on the above. With thanks, Graham Bisset Sutton London UK sincerely Dawn

Patty, Crawfordjohn and Leadhills are in the Scottish lowlands - well south of Glasgow, not too far from the river Clyde - and to the west of the country and I think they have always been within the shire of Lanark, although they do border Ayrshire, Dumfriesshire and Peebleshire. My own Macqueens are predominantly from Eaglesham, Neilston, Stonehouse, Avondale and Lochwinnoch which are quite close by. All but one of them left Scotland in the 1870's. All settled in England - in Birmingham (Warwickshire), London, Winchcomb (Gloucestershire) and Market Drayton (Shropshire). Through this listing, I found that my husband's GG grandfather Archie's sister Mary (who I did not know existed) married a chap called 'Gall'. That line settled in the USA. I believe that there is a Braxfield connection because I have two distinctive names in my tree (Lilias Macqueen and Robert Dundas Macqueen) which are also found in the infamous judge's tree which kicks off as follows: his grandfather Robert Mcqueen was the Laird of Stoneyburn and Whelphill. He had 3 sons, (1) John, (2)William and (3)Robert. (1) John became the Laird of Braxfield and Robert Macqueen of Braxfield is one of his sons. (2) William became tenant of Cowhill, Crawford parish. Incidentally, he had two sons+ 3 daughters - the sons were Robert (b.1723, d. 1795 m. Elizabeth, his cousin, in 1750. They had 14 children) and William. I think there was a reference to this Robert and Elizabeth in the emails a few days ago. Also I think that the Loudon Mcqueen referred to by Eunice is quite possibly the 8th son of Robert and Elizabeth. My notes tell me that he became a merchant in Liverpool and was drowned there. He left one son, John bn Feb 22nd 1797, and two daughters ( I do not have their names at the present time). However, John was to marry a Marrion Hunter. They had 3 children, Loudon, Marrion and Hope. Eunice if this is your line, do you have this info as I do have some more details? (3) Robert became tenant of the Castle of Crawford. He had 3 sons - Robert, William and James + Elizabeth (who married her cousin as discussed previously). Eunice and I have exchanged notes for a while, though I have to admit that I had not quite mastered the lines in detail. There is also Margaret (in Canada) who has done lots on those lines. Well still no firm ties for me - but you never know! sincerely Dawn

Eunice (and all): Hope you don't mind me jumping in here, but have you tried "googling" for Lord BRAXFIELD? I just did and came up with 588 hits -- one even has his picture. Here's the URL: http://www.scran.ac.uk/database/record.php?usi=000-000-016-666-C&searchdb=scran Best regards, Jacquelyn (Erhard) Bean 5th great granddaughter Daniel and Ruth (JENKINS) McQUEEN ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eunice Robinson" <eunice@dccnet.com> To: <McQUEEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 10:59 PM Subject: RE: [McQUEEN] The family history > > Went online last night to the Family History Library site and other > internet > search areas - there has been nothing done on the genealogy of Lord > Braxfield - find that hard to believe. So I'll just keep plugging along. >

Hi Dawn where is Crawford and Leadmills, I gather its in England just curious? Is it close to Liverpool. In over 100 some McQueens migrated to different places from Liverpool I suppose? I never heard of the name Loudon before? My Dad was John Ita McQueen born Dublin, spent much time in Liverpool with his Dad Thos.Owen. The names seem to reiterate a lot, boys getting the fathers and grandfathers names. Owen was grandfather and Thomas maybe Father of Owen, just a guess. The Scots seem to love passing on the same names over and over. Eunice you mentioned going to Salt Lake City would love to go. There are some McQueen buried there, Elizabeth who was born Scotland, father Osborne McQueen and his wife had many children including a Thomas. I want to get that CD about Osborne a mason and his wife had 16 children but went back died in Scotland. The CD is in the LDS and I want to get it soon, will let you what I find one of them married an ORR Will look up more later thanks. Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: Eunice Robinson To: McQUEEN-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 9:02 PM Subject: RE: [McQUEEN] The family history Dawn, Thanks. I have a huge volume of information that I have gathered these past 30 years and have gone through the OPR for Crawford, Crawfordjohn, Leadhills. My connection in Cheshire is descended from this John. Eunice -----Original Message----- From: DAWNMACQUEEN@aol.com [mailto:DAWNMACQUEEN@aol.com] Sent: February 21, 2006 7:22 AM To: McQUEEN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [McQUEEN] The family history Eunice I have looked through some old notes I have on the Crawford parish and I have a Loudon Macqueen m. to Jean Watson. Their son John being christened on 12th March 1799. Any help? sincerely Dawn ==== McQUEEN Mailing List ==== Don't forget our Message Board, courtesy of Rootsweb! Queries, Bible records, Biographies, Deeds, Obits, Pensions, Wills and other data: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/board/rw/surnames.mcqueen ***To reply to Message Board posts sent to the list, CLICK the LINK and reply on the board, or CC the poster in your reply to the list. ============================== Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx ==== McQUEEN Mailing List ==== Need help writing *excellent* queries? Check out http://www.ancestry.com/library/view/news/articles/503.asp Dated, but also good: http://www.rootsweb.com/~surnames/goodbad ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Hi Dawn, I am very interested in your note to Patricia in which you state that Perry Macqueen has at least two bound books deposited at the Genealogy Society in London, one on his own family tree which originates in Doune. This is exactly the area that I have been trying to get information about for years. How would one go about trying to find out the contents of Perry's writings? I am in Michigan, USA...no where near London. Jeri Otto -----Original Message----- From: Patricia McQueen [mailto:pattymcq@comcast.net] Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 2:26 PM To: McQUEEN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [McQUEEN] The family history Thanks Dawn, please keep in touch. I dont want to be a quitter but maybe near something new and interesting, hey theres always hope right? Patricia ----- Original Message ----- From: DAWNMACQUEEN@aol.com To: McQUEEN-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 7:33 AM Subject: Re: [McQUEEN] The family history Patricia you will not find my John James on the 1881 census. He was bn in 1887 in Birmingham and went to Liverpool as an adult following some some spent in Llanberis (Wales). My John tells me that John James (Jim) lived in Stanley Avenue, Liverpool - certainly in the early 1920s. He does not think that there were relatives there. He believes that Jim was deployed there by the firm he worked for. But you never know! A chap called Percy Macqueen did a lot of genealogy research on the 'english' Macqueens. His work spans early history through to the end of the 1950s. When he passed on, his work was deposited at the Genealogy Society offices in London. There are about 5 big boxes there plus two bound books - one of his own family tree which starts off in Doune, and the other holding detailed notes of different groups of Macqueens in England. I have some old notes which I copied from that collection years ago (like you, it has taken me years to get this far) and have just checked through them but cannot see a Liverpool group. I will let you know if I see anything of remote interest. sincerely Dawn ==== McQUEEN Mailing List ==== List Information: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/McQueen-L.htm ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx ______________________________

Dawn, Thanks. I have a huge volume of information that I have gathered these past 30 years and have gone through the OPR for Crawford, Crawfordjohn, Leadhills. My connection in Cheshire is descended from this John. Eunice -----Original Message----- From: DAWNMACQUEEN@aol.com [mailto:DAWNMACQUEEN@aol.com] Sent: February 21, 2006 7:22 AM To: McQUEEN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [McQUEEN] The family history Eunice I have looked through some old notes I have on the Crawford parish and I have a Loudon Macqueen m. to Jean Watson. Their son John being christened on 12th March 1799. Any help? sincerely Dawn ==== McQUEEN Mailing List ==== Don't forget our Message Board, courtesy of Rootsweb! Queries, Bible records, Biographies, Deeds, Obits, Pensions, Wills and other data: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/board/rw/surnames.mcqueen ***To reply to Message Board posts sent to the list, CLICK the LINK and reply on the board, or CC the poster in your reply to the list. ============================== Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx

Patricia, Her name is Margaret McKinnon. She is an amateur just like you and me. Have you gone on the Scotlands People website? I have registered, but I need to finally take the plunge and go online to research. Don't want to waste any of those credits. Went online last night to the Family History Library site and other internet search areas - there has been nothing done on the genealogy of Lord Braxfield - find that hard to believe. So I'll just keep plugging along. As I mentioned there was one branch of our McQueen family that went to Liverpool. But haven't found anything in any of the LDS records that helps me on that search yet either. Do you ever get to Salt Lake?? I belong to the British Columbia Genealogical Society and we usually have a group head down there each fall. I'm anticipating going there the week of October 29th. Eunice -----Original Message----- From: Patricia McQueen [mailto:pattymcq@comcast.net] Sent: February 21, 2006 10:32 AM To: McQUEEN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [McQUEEN] The family history Thanks Eunice, I dont recognize the names you gave me. Could you possibly give me the name of the research in California. Is she a professional or an amateur like me? I will keep trying, with my James McQueen b.1848 Scotland married to Ellen Doyle 1870 and 3 children born 1871 Albert, Thos Owen b.1876 and Frederick W. born 1880 in Liverpool and on the 1881 Brit.census, I am bound to have descendants, if not direct, through my great uncles. Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: Eunice Robinson To: McQUEEN-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 9:02 PM Subject: RE: [McQUEEN] The family history Patricia & Dawn, Thanks for all the information you have shared. My husband's McQueen family does connect to Robert McQueen, Lord Braxfield. This came as quite a surprise as I thought my husband's line was generations of coal miners. As it turns out, they had quite a different lineage. There is another researcher, Margaret, living in California and Betty living in Cheshire. We have managed to connect our various branches back to a Robert McQueen who married his first cousin Elizabeth McQueen. They were both cousins of Lord Braxfield. Eunice -----Original Message----- From: Patricia McQueen [mailto:pattymcq@comcast.net] Sent: February 20, 2006 11:39 AM To: McQUEEN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [McQUEEN] The family history Hello Dawn, Its nice that you have tracked your family back to 1760, I cannot do mine that far because my Grandad Owen migrated to Dublin from Liverpool late 1900s.where my Dad John was born and then me and our family. I was the only one to emigrate to the US in 1958. I was not an unfortunate famine survivor but a highly trained secretary who was offered a job in NY State. I would have gone back to Dublin but I found my husband Michel on a trip to California and we got married stayed and had a family of 3 sons. I still love Ireland but my husband is not Irish and prefers his own country of birth~ Switzerland and he goes back to visit often. I have tracked my McQueens back to Wigtown where my gggrandfather Owen was married in 1837 in Mochrum to a Copeland. I have tracked them down to Liverpool where they migrated in 1850s and my line James McQueen, electrician lived married and died in Liverpool so I have the dates places and where they lived. To go back farther before 1815 is hard. I will try Ireland but I have to know the town and county were he was born. I might try Ireland again as he may have had a father Owen as well age 60 who was in the 1841 Mochrum census. We were always told we were Scots not English so as Irish and Scots moved back and forth its hard to say where they originally came from. I know its somewhere in the Highlands but the links between are hard to find. Sorry for repeating my whole life story but necessary. Sorry I cant help with the earlier McQueens, maybe my gggggrandfather Owen was born in Ireland ca.1780 or earlier. Bty I heard about the Judge Macqueen called the Hanging Judge. At least you have him in the family heheh get it Tree hehehe..... . It should be easy to go back to the McQueens of Corrybrough as you have. Me not knowing England or Scotland well makes it harder for me to understand the place names. I have a sister living in Cheshsire long time married to a Bisset born in Scotland, I dont know places well there. Good luck Dawn. There are probably thousands of McQueens here in US but I dont even try to connect as I am the only one emigrated in my family, maybe some of the ones from Preston were related to us who knows??? Patricia ----- Original Message ----- From: DAWNMACQUEEN@aol.com To: McQUEEN-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 1:09 AM Subject: Re: [McQUEEN] The family history I have been reading this developing history with great interest. I can trace my Macqueens back to about 1760 in the lowlands (Eaglesham) and I have been trying to ascertain how and why they settled there. I wondered if this followed the battle at Preston. Does anyone know? My Macqueens are tightly linked to the Stewarts and the Hamiltons who were from the lowlands. It is possible that they link to the Macqueens of Braxfield (who unfortunately prospered extremely well in the judiciary at that time) - and who were, in turn, directly linked to the Corrybrough clan chattan. 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Hi All This maybe of interest to some of you. From my book of "THE MACQEENS' Being a brief history of the origin of the MacQueen Family, with special reference to the MacQueens of Corryborough. by James Archibald Nydegger A.M., MD.,ScD. Surgeon, United States Public Health Service. 1928 People he has thanked for their contribution is [REMEMBER THIS IS 1928] these names may jog some memories MrJames MacQueen of "Knockandhu " Nairn-shire, Scotland. Mrs Marjory Davidson (nee MacQueen) of "Knockandhu," Nairn-shire, Mr Alexander MacQueen of "Daless," Nairn-shire. Mr Donald MacQueen of "Banchor" Nairn-shire Mr William MacQueen of Wawota, Saskachewan Province Canada Mr John MacQueen of Fleming, Saskatchewan Province Canada Mrs Rose Duffy McCulloch of "Essick "Inverness-shire Mr Archibald A> Chisolm, Cuchullin Lodge, Inverness Rev MacLean Watt, THe catherdral, Glasgow Scotland Mr William Mackintosh, British Linen Bank House, Brechin, Forfarshire Scotland Mrs Isabella Simpson of Nairn, Nairn-shire Miss Jessie Mackntosh of Daless, Nairn-shire Rev George David MacQueen of Edmonton, Alberta Canada. Mr Eion Moy MacQueen, Christchurch New Zealand Mrs Annie Kennedy, Cleveland, Ohio USA Mr John Donald Colin Wilson of Rustington, Sussex England Mr John Cameron, Pensacola, Florida He states that , "During the 17th century it is mentioned that there were twelve heritors of the name in the shires of Inverness and Nairn. Amongst others may be mentioned in Nairn -shire, Donald McQueen of Reatt, McQueen of Carnoch and Drynachan, and Alexander MacQueen of Daless, also Sweyn vic Lachlan MacQueen in Little Quilichan of the Streens. In Inverness the principal cadets were MacQueen of Pallochaug, MacQueen of Strathnoon, MacQueen of Little Raig, MacQueen of Clune etc " further on he mentions that ......... "Ranking next in importance to the MacQueens of Corryborough, was the family of MacQueen of Pollochaig.This estate, located in Strathdearn, in the Valley of the Findhorn, fell into the the hands of the Mackintosh towards the close of the eighteenth century. The Pollochaig MacQueens are said to have been in the place for three hundred years, and up to the time of John MacQueen, who lived in the early part of the eighteenth century, prospered. It is said of this John that he possessed supernatural powers, and by means of certain candles which he framed was able to look into and behold the future. His mistake in not demanding a blessing from a witch he had shot, underguise of a roe, before extracting at her request the leaden bullet, is indeed well known, viz., "That his (MacQueens') worst day would be his best day, and his best day his worst day." From and after this pro-nunciamento the family decayed. John MacQueen's position maybe inferred from the circumstances that his son, Donald married Elizabeth, sister of Lachlan Mackintosh of Mackintosh; and in consequence of his being "out"as one of the officers of the regiment of Clan Chattan in 1715, was banished to the plantatiions of America, leaving at least one daughter, Elizabeth MacQueen. Several of these MacQueens remained about the place as late as 1825-35. The book contains the MacQueen lines of the Corryborough . regards Githa of NZ descended from McQueen of Isle of Skye -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.11/264 - Release Date: 17/02/2006

FYI, the Nydegger MacQueen history book is available on Ancestry.com in the Family and Local History section. Maybe Heritage Quest has it also, but I haven't checked that. Holly

Thanks Holly, I will check site for the book. Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: Mert & Holly Kilpatrick To: McQUEEN-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 3:04 PM Subject: RE: [McQUEEN] The family history FYI, the Nydegger MacQueen history book is available on Ancestry.com in the Family and Local History section. Maybe Heritage Quest has it also, but I haven't checked that. Holly ==== McQUEEN Mailing List ==== RootsWeb forbids posting of copyrighted material without permission of the author. Read RootsWeb's Acceptable Use Policy at http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/aup.html ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

HI again, too much typing for me today but I am interested in finding Liverpool relatives be they distant and far away no matter. I cant find my John McQueen born Scotl1846. His name was not on the Brit census of 1861 with the family now that I think of it. John would be my g/uncle if I could find his family now. Come to think of it he would be about 16 at time of that census 1861. He could have gone out on his own. There is a John James McQueen born Liverpool in the Brit census of 1881. If this was my great uncle(probably not) he would have been 36 at that time. Maybe he married a stewart lady. Old Owen Queen/Queen Macqueen called himself many names, probably illiterate or close to it but that was the period not like today. My Dad John McQueen born Dublin but lived in Lpool many years with his dad Thos.Owen and brother thos. My Dad's brother Thos. worked for the electricity board in Dublin not a high position, just driving Ithink. His two sons Alex and thos. worked in the Telephone/computer for the city (a government job) Both died recently in Dublin over 70 I dont know the details they have large families still in Dublin but I am not acquainted with them. Enough rattling on, my hands are cold. We have a very cold spell in S.Francisco with snow on high ground, lots of ice and snow in the Sierra Nevada hills, not far away 200 miles maybe. Cheers give me any feedback you can. Patricia ----- Original Message ----- From: DAWNMACQUEEN@aol.com To: McQUEEN-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 12:55 PM Subject: Re: [McQUEEN] The family history Patricia, the Liverpool link is an interesting one. There have been several pioneering electricians in my Macqueens. John James (known as Jim) Macqueen married Bronwen Jones in 1913 and they lived in Liverpool for quite some time. He ran the Radio Station there until he (Jim) was asked to manage the Rugby Radio station as Chief Engineer (the most important in the UK!). His son, Roy Stewart Macqueen (bn Liverpool 1914) was Chief Engineer at Criggion and then Leafield (nr Oxford). There are several other electrical engineers in the history of my husband's family, though I do not have a Liverpool connection for them. These include Norman Stewart Macqueen (bn 1893), his son George Stewart Macqueen, Ian Hamilton Macqueen MBE (bn 1900), and my husband, John Stewart Macqueen and his father Roy Stewart Macqueen (bn 1907). Gordon Stewart Macqueen (bn 1892) was instrumental in the development of time lapse photography. You never know, this might ring some bells! sincerely Dawn Dawn Macqueen Worcestershire, England ==== McQUEEN Mailing List ==== To Unsubscribe: Click on mailto:McQueen-L-request@rootsweb.com to create a new message with UNSUBSCRIBE as the *only* text in the message, and as the subject. Contact Valorie: mailto:McQueen-admin@rootsweb.com with any questions, list problems, or virus warnings. ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

Thanks Dawn, please keep in touch. I dont want to be a quitter but maybe near something new and interesting, hey theres always hope right? Patricia ----- Original Message ----- From: DAWNMACQUEEN@aol.com To: McQUEEN-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 7:33 AM Subject: Re: [McQUEEN] The family history Patricia you will not find my John James on the 1881 census. He was bn in 1887 in Birmingham and went to Liverpool as an adult following some some spent in Llanberis (Wales). My John tells me that John James (Jim) lived in Stanley Avenue, Liverpool - certainly in the early 1920s. He does not think that there were relatives there. He believes that Jim was deployed there by the firm he worked for. But you never know! A chap called Percy Macqueen did a lot of genealogy research on the 'english' Macqueens. His work spans early history through to the end of the 1950s. When he passed on, his work was deposited at the Genealogy Society offices in London. There are about 5 big boxes there plus two bound books - one of his own family tree which starts off in Doune, and the other holding detailed notes of different groups of Macqueens in England. I have some old notes which I copied from that collection years ago (like you, it has taken me years to get this far) and have just checked through them but cannot see a Liverpool group. I will let you know if I see anything of remote interest. sincerely Dawn ==== McQUEEN Mailing List ==== List Information: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/McQueen-L.htm ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

Dawn, just one more thing. Can I buy the book you mention online at Amazon? I will check my library for it. I have read pieces from it but not the whole thing. Regards, I will keep in touch if I find any John James in my family tree. My dates for him would be after 1870s. My James was brother of a John b.1846 So he would be of age 1860s and 1870s when James married in Liverpool church I forget the name.They may have been Catholic not sure. Regards, Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: DAWNMACQUEEN@aol.com To: McQUEEN-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 5:26 AM Subject: Re: [McQUEEN] McQueens a brief History I have a copy of the Nydegger book and it is excellent. However, I cannot pick up the lowlands piece from that, although it is said that John Macqueen of Braxfield was possibly of Pollocraig / Corrybrough. sincerely Dawn ==== McQUEEN Mailing List ==== To ask for a lookup or volunteer to do acts of genealogical kindness, visit Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness, http://www.RAOGK.org ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx

Patricia you will not find my John James on the 1881 census. He was bn in 1887 in Birmingham and went to Liverpool as an adult following some some spent in Llanberis (Wales). My John tells me that John James (Jim) lived in Stanley Avenue, Liverpool - certainly in the early 1920s. He does not think that there were relatives there. He believes that Jim was deployed there by the firm he worked for. But you never know! A chap called Percy Macqueen did a lot of genealogy research on the 'english' Macqueens. His work spans early history through to the end of the 1950s. When he passed on, his work was deposited at the Genealogy Society offices in London. There are about 5 big boxes there plus two bound books - one of his own family tree which starts off in Doune, and the other holding detailed notes of different groups of Macqueens in England. I have some old notes which I copied from that collection years ago (like you, it has taken me years to get this far) and have just checked through them but cannot see a Liverpool group. I will let you know if I see anything of remote interest. sincerely Dawn

Thanks Eunice, I dont recognize the names you gave me. Could you possibly give me the name of the research in California. Is she a professional or an amateur like me? I will keep trying, with my James McQueen b.1848 Scotland married to Ellen Doyle 1870 and 3 children born 1871 Albert, Thos Owen b.1876 and Frederick W. born 1880 in Liverpool and on the 1881 Brit.census, I am bound to have descendants, if not direct, through my great uncles. Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: Eunice Robinson To: McQUEEN-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 9:02 PM Subject: RE: [McQUEEN] The family history Patricia & Dawn, Thanks for all the information you have shared. My husband's McQueen family does connect to Robert McQueen, Lord Braxfield. This came as quite a surprise as I thought my husband's line was generations of coal miners. As it turns out, they had quite a different lineage. There is another researcher, Margaret, living in California and Betty living in Cheshire. We have managed to connect our various branches back to a Robert McQueen who married his first cousin Elizabeth McQueen. They were both cousins of Lord Braxfield. Eunice -----Original Message----- From: Patricia McQueen [mailto:pattymcq@comcast.net] Sent: February 20, 2006 11:39 AM To: McQUEEN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [McQUEEN] The family history Hello Dawn, Its nice that you have tracked your family back to 1760, I cannot do mine that far because my Grandad Owen migrated to Dublin from Liverpool late 1900s.where my Dad John was born and then me and our family. I was the only one to emigrate to the US in 1958. I was not an unfortunate famine survivor but a highly trained secretary who was offered a job in NY State. I would have gone back to Dublin but I found my husband Michel on a trip to California and we got married stayed and had a family of 3 sons. I still love Ireland but my husband is not Irish and prefers his own country of birth~ Switzerland and he goes back to visit often. I have tracked my McQueens back to Wigtown where my gggrandfather Owen was married in 1837 in Mochrum to a Copeland. I have tracked them down to Liverpool where they migrated in 1850s and my line James McQueen, electrician lived married and died in Liverpool so I have the dates places and where they lived. To go back farther before 1815 is hard. I will try Ireland but I have to know the town and county were he was born. I might try Ireland again as he may have had a father Owen as well age 60 who was in the 1841 Mochrum census. We were always told we were Scots not English so as Irish and Scots moved back and forth its hard to say where they originally came from. I know its somewhere in the Highlands but the links between are hard to find. Sorry for repeating my whole life story but necessary. Sorry I cant help with the earlier McQueens, maybe my gggggrandfather Owen was born in Ireland ca.1780 or earlier. Bty I heard about the Judge Macqueen called the Hanging Judge. At least you have him in the family heheh get it Tree hehehe..... . It should be easy to go back to the McQueens of Corrybrough as you have. Me not knowing England or Scotland well makes it harder for me to understand the place names. I have a sister living in Cheshsire long time married to a Bisset born in Scotland, I dont know places well there. Good luck Dawn. There are probably thousands of McQueens here in US but I dont even try to connect as I am the only one emigrated in my family, maybe some of the ones from Preston were related to us who knows??? Patricia ----- Original Message ----- From: DAWNMACQUEEN@aol.com To: McQUEEN-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 1:09 AM Subject: Re: [McQUEEN] The family history I have been reading this developing history with great interest. I can trace my Macqueens back to about 1760 in the lowlands (Eaglesham) and I have been trying to ascertain how and why they settled there. I wondered if this followed the battle at Preston. Does anyone know? My Macqueens are tightly linked to the Stewarts and the Hamiltons who were from the lowlands. It is possible that they link to the Macqueens of Braxfield (who unfortunately prospered extremely well in the judiciary at that time) - and who were, in turn, directly linked to the Corrybrough clan chattan. I would be really interested in any help in understanding how and when Macqueens settled in the lowlands. sincerely Dawn Dawn (married to John Stewart Macqueen) ==== McQUEEN Mailing List ==== Please don't post private information about living people without permission. All posts are archived. 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Eunice I have looked through some old notes I have on the Crawford parish and I have a Loudon Macqueen m. to Jean Watson. Their son John being christened on 12th March 1799. Any help? sincerely Dawn

Wow, there has been a lot of activity on the list lately. I am glad to see it! I am researching the descendants of the Virginia McQueens. I say "Virginia" because I am curious about other McQueens besides the Culpeper County, VA family like: George McQueen, missionary, arrived 1703 to VA John McQueen/McQuinn mentioned in Spotsylvania County, VA 1734 and constable Orange County, VA 1738 Daniel McQueen, runaway from Orange County, VA born about 1717. Daniel McQueen, mentioned in King George County, VA 1725 Timothy McQueen I am also very interested in any information on Samuel McQueen and his wife Martha of Culpeper County, VA (not to be confused with Samuel and Hannah Dugger McQueen of NC and TN). I think he may be a son of John McQueen of Fauquier and Culpeper counties in VA, but have not found any sources to prove it. Samuel's children are listed below. The unknown female may be Nancy who married Mallory Shackelford. 1 Samuel McQueen b: Bef. 1762 Culpeper County, VA d: Bef. 20 May 1819 in Culpeper County, VA +Martha b: Abt. 1765 VA m: Bef. 1783 in probably Culpeper County, VA d: Aft. 1821 in Culpeper County, VA _2 Strother McQueen b: 1783 Rock Mills, Culpeper County, VA d: Bet. 15 Sep 1863 - 15 Sep 1864 in Rock Mills, Rappahannock County, VA ___+Lucy Partlow Yates b: 04 Nov 1789 Culpeper County, VA m: 18 Mar 1808 in Culpeper County, VA d: 04 Mar 1864 in Rock Mills, Rappahannock County, VA _2 Frances McQueen b: 1785 Culpeper County, VA d: Aft. 1840 in Culpeper County, VA ___+Eliab Dulaney b: 1778 Culpeper County, VA m: 03 Jan 1803 in Culpeper County, VA d: Aft. 1840 in Culpeper County, VA _2 Female McQueen b: Bet. 1786 - 1791 Culpeper County, VA _2 Lunsford McQueen b: Abt. 1788 Culpeper County, VA d: Aft. 1850 in Fauquier County, VA ___+Lucy b: Abt. 1796 VA m: Abt. 1818 in probably Culpeper County, VA d: Aft. 1850 _2 Johnson McQueen b: 1798 Culpeper County, VA d: 1868 in Tazewell County, IL ___+Cassandra Browning b: 1800 VA m: Bet. 1821 - 1823 in Culpeper County, VA d: 1837 in VA _*2nd Wife of Johnson McQueen: ___+Mary Sergent m: 08 Jul 1852 in Tazewell County, IL _2 Charles McQueen b: 16 Jan 1800 Culpeper County, VA d: 04 Apr 1883 in La Plata, Macon County, MO ___+Esther P Hitt b: 23 May 1798 Culpeper County, VA d: Bet. 22 Sep 1857 - 25 Sep 1858 in Tazewell County, IL _*2nd Wife of Charles McQueen: ___+Paulina Woodworth b: Abt. 1820 NJ m: 11 Feb 1863 in Peoria, IL d: Aft. 1880 in La Plata, Macon County, MO _2 Amy Ann McQueen b: 1801 Culpeper County, VA d: Apr 1835 in Culpeper County, VA ___+George Eggborn b: 1796 m: 1818 d: 04 Sep 1848 in Culpeper County, VA I would like hearing from anyone that would share information. Thanks Scott Kendall skendall@kc.rr.com

I have a copy of the Nydegger book and it is excellent. However, I cannot pick up the lowlands piece from that, although it is said that John Macqueen of Braxfield was possibly of Pollocraig / Corrybrough. sincerely Dawn