Another over-sized post. -v ------- Forwarded message follows ------- Date sent: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 19:57:00 -0600 From: "J. Grezlik" <jcgrezlik@bright.net> To: <McQUEEN-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: Fw: [McQUEEN] Re: July,1763 Pontiac' War Indian attacks on w Md/mid s Pa. I will research it again. But, it still stands that son-in-law does not always mean a relative by marriage, anymore than cousin, Aunt, Uncle, and Sr. Jr. they were terms used as often for very close friends and persons taken into the household. This endearment practice still exists today, just not as often used. I have seen the indenture records for Dugal and that he was taxed in 1732 in the Upper Hundred of the Cliffs, Calvert Co. MD. In 1739/40 he was living in Prince George's Co. and surveyed Cranberry Plans. I don't believe he was all that poor. He would never have been able to purchase land. He was a farmer in Scotland. He was NOT Catholic. And yes the McQueen's did have a habit of marrying cousins, even into the 20th century!! He ended up at the head waters of the Patapsco River in what is now Carroll Co. MD. I hope to get back to MD to do more research on the land records. I have been working my way back the family lines from Ohio. In all my research I have yet to find any McQueen's that stay put for any length of time, even if they just move within a county or 2 from where they started. Jane ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hermon B Fagley" <hermfagley@juno.com> To: <McQUEEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 3:48 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [McQUEEN] Re: July,1763 Pontiac' War Indian attacks on w Md/mid s Pa. > Research it again. A son-in-law "sometimes" did mean what it means today. > I quickly found cases it dd years ago. > It's been years,but I did,and found cases where it did mean that. I was > researching Brown's more than > McQueens at the time. I had a year where I knew finally who my Capt-Lt-JP > George Brown was, but not > whether his wife,Elizabeth was a McQueen,or a Sapp,or something else. Mr > Virden,in his shaky > handwriting, told me Elizabeth McQueen. > Robert Barnes,or someone and I differed years ago on his wife's and my > John Brown's > wife. I came from years of seeing the colony make 1st cousin marriages > [almost a rule] on the > frontier, while he came from researching Md records,and not further west. > > I was asked last night if I thought Grace was related to George and Mary > Stevenson Brown, > and I said no. > I know that you've read,in black and white ,that Grace may have been a > Brown,and that son-in-law > did not mean as it says today. I've read it too. And researched it.I say > that statement is not always correct, but I no longer can state where. > Research it. We disagreed 20 years ago. Today,Md will abstracts are on > www.ancestry.com . > Dugal's will gave items to Edward Logsdon and John Brown. One got a > great coat. It may have not mentioned > daughter's names. It said son-in-law. > Have you seen those tax lists showing Dugal McQueen,on the Anne > Arundel-Calvert Co line .Cliff's of Calvert. > I don't think my Brown[e] were within 15-20 miles that far south,but I > can't prove that. Severn River at Annapolis,maybe > > I think Dugal was poor,and perhaps Catholic,and knew how to herd,but not > farm,and knew > waterman's skills,which did him no good at Cranberry. Knew how to > herd,and ]or weave,or both,like most > Scotch. > Almost 4am. Going back to bed. ------- End of forwarded message -------

This was way over-sized, and bounced to me. I removed all the replies except the most recent one, and all the extraneous taglines. Please do this yourselves when replying. Sorry for the delay -- we have had a death in the family. Valorie ------- Forwarded message follows ------- Date sent: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 05:07:35 -0600 To: McQUEEN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Fw: [McQUEEN] Re: 1720 N of Baltimore, George and Mary Stevenson Brown[e] From: Hermon B Fagley <hermfagley@juno.com> I think my cousin,Bill Fagley was born in Baltic, 80+ years ago. Bill's wife's Email is EdFagley@prodigy.net. Don't have Bill's memorizied. Each has a computer. Bill has a sister,Virginia Fagley Kennedy in a rest home in Dover-New Phila. Lady in my Email address book lived here 2 summers in the 50's. She attended Old Washington school. I see Wm McQueen was in Washington Co,Pa "by 1796" which sounds like he wasn't on the 1790 census there. And Jousha,of Thomas,of Dugal,at least,was 6 miles west of Washington,Co [Weirton] by 1773, and they had migrated on west by 1787. Shocked that Edward Logsdon,Sr was just a witness,but such is memory. I've been in Dover several times,including Virginia's 1946 wedding. And Sugar Creek when my uncle died in the late 60's. Guess it was the 1946 visit when my uncle and aunt took us to the reconstructed Moravian Indian village. And 30 years later when I 1ST SAW HINTS my kinsmen were at the massacres. PluraL On Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:07:02 -0400 "J. Grezlik" <jcgrezlik@bright.net> writes: > When your Uncle taught in Baltic, he taught McQueen cousins. There > is a > line of the family that moved down that way and made a very good > living > farming the hill sides. They owned over 300 acres of land in the > Baltic > area. I was at a McQueen Reunion there this past summer and a newly > found > cousin was kind enough to take me for a drive around the area and > show me > the lands and cemeteries the families are buried in. This was the > William > III line, of Dugal > William I > William II > ------- End of forwarded message -------

At least Sgt Jousha McQueen,of Thomas,Sr,of Dugal,wintered besieged by Indians at Fort Lorenz,at Bolivar,Ohio 1778-1779 or 1779-1780. Maybe more. On Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:11:45 -0400 "J. Grezlik" <jcgrezlik@bright.net> writes: > William got the fear-nothing coat. Is that the one you are thinking > of? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Hermon B Fagley" <hermfagley@juno.com> > To: <McQUEEN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 8:06 AM > Subject: [McQUEEN] Edward Logsdon Sr was a witness,not son-in-law > > > > In my mind,I debated who got the coat. John Brown or Dugal > McQueen. > > Tricks of the mind. > > But surely,Edward Logsdon,Jr m Mary,of John Brown,and lived in > Madison > > Co,Ky > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > > The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! > > Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! > > Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! > > > > > > ==== McQUEEN Mailing List ==== > > Don't forget our Message Board, courtesy of Rootsweb! Queries, > Bible > > records, Biographies, Deeds, Obits, Pensions, Wills and other > data: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/board/rw/surnames.mcqueen > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > ==== McQUEEN Mailing List ==== > Missing MISSING LINKS and SOMEBODY'S LINKS? > Subscribe: http://www.petuniapress.com/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

William got the fear-nothing coat. Is that the one you are thinking of? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hermon B Fagley" <hermfagley@juno.com> To: <McQUEEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 8:06 AM Subject: [McQUEEN] Edward Logsdon Sr was a witness,not son-in-law > In my mind,I debated who got the coat. John Brown or Dugal McQueen. > Tricks of the mind. > But surely,Edward Logsdon,Jr m Mary,of John Brown,and lived in Madison > Co,Ky > > ________________________________________________________________ > The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! > Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! > Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! > > > ==== McQUEEN Mailing List ==== > Don't forget our Message Board, courtesy of Rootsweb! Queries, Bible > records, Biographies, Deeds, Obits, Pensions, Wills and other data: > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/board/rw/surnames.mcqueen > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

When your Uncle taught in Baltic, he taught McQueen cousins. There is a line of the family that moved down that way and made a very good living farming the hill sides. They owned over 300 acres of land in the Baltic area. I was at a McQueen Reunion there this past summer and a newly found cousin was kind enough to take me for a drive around the area and show me the lands and cemeteries the families are buried in. This was the William III line, of Dugal > William I > William II > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hermon B Fagley" <hermfagley@juno.com> To: <McQUEEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 4:51 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [McQUEEN] Re: 1720 N of Baltimore, George and Mary Stevenson Brown[e] > Fagley cedes point. 4:30 am > Ir [1] strikes me that even if I proved son-in-law sometimes was > son-in-kaw,ans sometimes > step-son, I couldn't prove which 'Dugal meant. > Then the point that got me back out of bed was if John Brown "was" > Grace's son,and legitamate, > Brown was not Grace's maiden name. > A GIRL NAMED gRACE LIVED WITH US when I was 5-5 years old. Italian and > Catholic. > I was told George and Mary Stevenson Brown's land adjoined Dugal > McQueen's. I was told their land was > at Westminster. www.yahoo.com map shows Cranberry,Md a few miles north > east. > I was told Thomas McQueen's 'Fox Thicket' adjoined John Brown's at > Hampstead. In both cases,I > was told,by phone,by a local Md genealogist,and can't prove same with > maps. > > My uncle lived in DOVER, Ohio and taught in New Philadelphia,Baltic,amd > another nearby towm > And took school photographs of classes as a business. > On Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:25:14 -0400 "J. Grezlik" <jcgrezlik@bright.net> > writes: > > Herman, I am about an hour and a half west of Weirton, a few miles > > from > > where William McQueen II settled with his family. Jane > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Hermon B Fagley" <hermfagley@juno.com> > > To: <McQUEEN-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 9:10 AM > > Subject: Re: Fw: [McQUEEN] Re: 1720 N of Baltimore, George and Mary > > Stevenson Brown[e] > > > > > > > Jane,in Ohio. Where? I'm east of Cincinnati where George and > > Elizabeth > > > McQueen Brown settled in 1802 [Dugal,Thomas,Sr.].They had lived on > > the Ky > > > bank of the > > > Ohio a few mies south,in 1798-1802. [Carntown,Kt] and miles > > up-river at > > > Weirton WV- > > > sTUBENVILLE,oH 1773-87. Another one,James,of Thomas ,of Dugal, > > lived > > > across the Ohio River > > > 2 places-w Vanceburg,Ky,and Orangedale,Ky. > > > > > > On Sun, 5 Oct 2003 22:50:38 -0400 "J. Grezlik" > > <jcgrezlik@bright.net> > > > writes: > > > > Hello, I have been watching this information with much interest. > > I > > > > have a > > > > question concerning a daughter of Dugal being married to a > > Logsdon. > > > > Has > > > > this relationship been proven beyond doubt? I haven't done as > > much > > > > research > > > > on the daughter(s) as you appear to have done, but I had not > > found > > > > anything > > > > that "proved" any link between Mrs. Logsdon and Dugal. Can you > > clear > > > > this up > > > > for me? there may be valuable clues in the information that > > would > > > > help me > > > > with more detailed information on Dugal's son and grandson, > > William. > > > > Thank > > > > you for your help. > > > > Jane in Ohio > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Hermon B Fagley" <hermfagley@juno.com> > > > > To: <McQUEEN-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2003 8:23 AM > > > > Subject: [McQUEEN] Re: 1720 N of Baltimore, George and Mary > > > > Stevenson > > > > Brown[e] > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dick,Mrs Robert W. Barnes is from George Brown[e,d 1770's > > ],and > > > > son,John > > > > > Brown,d 1810, so he wrote > > > > > an Edward Strevenson booklet 20 years ago.We disagree on > > whether > > > > John > > > > > Brown's wife > > > > > is Dugal McQueen's daughter. Bill Shaffer located George Brown > > and > > > > > Dugal's farms as touching at Westminster,Md ,and > > > > > John Brown's and Thomas McQueen's farms as touching at > > > > Hampstead,Md. > > > > > Bill and Marleen Shaffer's Brown line has never moved-he's at > > > > > Finksburg,Md . > > > > > The Brown's very married into the Richards-some here to > > Clermont > > > > Co,SW > > > > > Ohio. > > > > > > > > > > John Brown's Mary m Edward Logsdon,Jr lived Madison Co,Ky > > > > > Dugal McQueen's dau m Edward Logsdon,Sr. > > > > > > > > > > Also Capt-Lt-JP-Rev George Brown,d 1814, and wife Elizabeth > > > > McQueen had > > > > > Ruth Brown,who m 1794, > > > > > Madison Co,Ky to Robert Brown. 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In my mind,I debated who got the coat. John Brown or Dugal McQueen. Tricks of the mind. But surely,Edward Logsdon,Jr m Mary,of John Brown,and lived in Madison Co,Ky ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

Fagley cedes point. 4:30 am Ir [1] strikes me that even if I proved son-in-law sometimes was son-in-kaw,ans sometimes step-son, I couldn't prove which 'Dugal meant. Then the point that got me back out of bed was if John Brown "was" Grace's son,and legitamate, Brown was not Grace's maiden name. A GIRL NAMED gRACE LIVED WITH US when I was 5-5 years old. Italian and Catholic. I was told George and Mary Stevenson Brown's land adjoined Dugal McQueen's. I was told their land was at Westminster. www.yahoo.com map shows Cranberry,Md a few miles north east. I was told Thomas McQueen's 'Fox Thicket' adjoined John Brown's at Hampstead. In both cases,I was told,by phone,by a local Md genealogist,and can't prove same with maps. My uncle lived in DOVER, Ohio and taught in New Philadelphia,Baltic,amd another nearby towm And took school photographs of classes as a business. On Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:25:14 -0400 "J. Grezlik" <jcgrezlik@bright.net> writes: > Herman, I am about an hour and a half west of Weirton, a few miles > from > where William McQueen II settled with his family. Jane > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Hermon B Fagley" <hermfagley@juno.com> > To: <McQUEEN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 9:10 AM > Subject: Re: Fw: [McQUEEN] Re: 1720 N of Baltimore, George and Mary > Stevenson Brown[e] > > > > Jane,in Ohio. Where? I'm east of Cincinnati where George and > Elizabeth > > McQueen Brown settled in 1802 [Dugal,Thomas,Sr.].They had lived on > the Ky > > bank of the > > Ohio a few mies south,in 1798-1802. [Carntown,Kt] and miles > up-river at > > Weirton WV- > > sTUBENVILLE,oH 1773-87. Another one,James,of Thomas ,of Dugal, > lived > > across the Ohio River > > 2 places-w Vanceburg,Ky,and Orangedale,Ky. > > > > On Sun, 5 Oct 2003 22:50:38 -0400 "J. Grezlik" > <jcgrezlik@bright.net> > > writes: > > > Hello, I have been watching this information with much interest. > I > > > have a > > > question concerning a daughter of Dugal being married to a > Logsdon. > > > Has > > > this relationship been proven beyond doubt? I haven't done as > much > > > research > > > on the daughter(s) as you appear to have done, but I had not > found > > > anything > > > that "proved" any link between Mrs. Logsdon and Dugal. Can you > clear > > > this up > > > for me? there may be valuable clues in the information that > would > > > help me > > > with more detailed information on Dugal's son and grandson, > William. > > > Thank > > > you for your help. > > > Jane in Ohio > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Hermon B Fagley" <hermfagley@juno.com> > > > To: <McQUEEN-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2003 8:23 AM > > > Subject: [McQUEEN] Re: 1720 N of Baltimore, George and Mary > > > Stevenson > > > Brown[e] > > > > > > > > > > Dick,Mrs Robert W. Barnes is from George Brown[e,d 1770's > ],and > > > son,John > > > > Brown,d 1810, so he wrote > > > > an Edward Strevenson booklet 20 years ago.We disagree on > whether > > > John > > > > Brown's wife > > > > is Dugal McQueen's daughter. Bill Shaffer located George Brown > and > > > > Dugal's farms as touching at Westminster,Md ,and > > > > John Brown's and Thomas McQueen's farms as touching at > > > Hampstead,Md. > > > > Bill and Marleen Shaffer's Brown line has never moved-he's at > > > > Finksburg,Md . > > > > The Brown's very married into the Richards-some here to > Clermont > > > Co,SW > > > > Ohio. > > > > > > > > John Brown's Mary m Edward Logsdon,Jr lived Madison Co,Ky > > > > Dugal McQueen's dau m Edward Logsdon,Sr. > > > > > > > > Also Capt-Lt-JP-Rev George Brown,d 1814, and wife Elizabeth > > > McQueen had > > > > Ruth Brown,who m 1794, > > > > Madison Co,Ky to Robert Brown. Their son,Wm,and his son,John > > > Brown,m > > > > Richards here in sw Ohio > > > > John Brown-latter-has a published biography. > > > > I own 4-5 of Robert Barnes books, including 'Baltimore > Co,Families > > > > 1659-1759" > > > > > > > > On Sat, 04 Oct 2003 19:06:22 -0400 "Richard T. Koch" > > > > <rtkoch@hereintown.net> writes: > > > > > Barnes, Robert W., Baltimore County Families 1659-1759, Gen > Pub > > > Co., > > > > > page 444 > > > > > > > > > > This reference gives the Merryman line back to John, d 10 > Nov > > > 1680, > > > > > in > > > > > Lancaster Co., VA. > > > > > Unnamed daughter's of Charles Merryman Jr. shown are Ann > > > Richards, > > > > > Elizabeth Cross, Jemima w/o Henry Stevenson, and Kedometh. > > > Article > > > > > shows William and (John) Charles as sons. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > > > > The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! > > > > Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! > > > > Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== McQUEEN Mailing List ==== > > > > RootsWeb forbids posting of copyrighted material without > > > > permission of the author. 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Research it again. A son-in-law "sometimes" did mean what it means today. I quickly found cases it dd years ago. It's been years,but I did,and found cases where it did mean that. I was researching Brown's more than McQueens at the time. I had a year where I knew finally who my Capt-Lt-JP George Brown was, but not whether his wife,Elizabeth was a McQueen,or a Sapp,or something else. Mr Virden,in his shaky handwriting, told me Elizabeth McQueen. Robert Barnes,or someone and I differed years ago on his wife's and my John Brown's wife. I came from years of seeing the colony make 1st cousin marriages [almost a rule] on the frontier, while he came from researching Md records,and not further west. I was asked last night if I thought Grace was related to George and Mary Stevenson Brown, and I said no. I know that you've read,in black and white ,that Grace may have been a Brown,and that son-in-law did not mean as it says today. I've read it too. And researched it.I say that statement is not always correct, but I no longer can state where. Research it. We disagreed 20 years ago. Today,Md will abstracts are on www.ancestry.com . Dugal's will gave items to Edward Logsdon and John Brown. One got a great coat. It may have not mentioned daughter's names. It said son-in-law. Have you seen those tax lists showing Dugal McQueen,on the Anne Arundel-Calvert Co line .Cliff's of Calvert. I don't think my Brown[e] were within 15-20 miles that far south,but I can't prove that. Severn River at Annapolis,maybe I think Dugal was poor,and perhaps Catholic,and knew how to herd,but not farm,and knew waterman's skills,which did him no good at Cranberry. Knew how to herd,and ]or weave,or both,like most Scotch. Almost 4am. Going back to bed. On Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:20:32 -0400 "J. Grezlik" <jcgrezlik@bright.net> writes: > I'm not real clear on the females lines so I may well be off base. > But from > what I know of the will (have copy) there were no daughters > mentioned and > John Brown may well have been the son of Dugal's wife, Grace. I am > familiar > with the fact that in that time frame a "son-in-law" did not mean > what it > does today, a son by marriage. Then, it could be any male that > Dugal may > have "taken in". this is one of the reasons I am so interested in > the > females and "proof". > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Hermon B Fagley" <hermfagley@juno.com> > To: <McQUEEN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 8:31 AM > Subject: Re: Fw: [McQUEEN] Re: July,1763 Pontiac' War Indian attacks > on w > Md/mid s Pa. > > > > Oh,my! Must be 20 years I've considered Edward Logsdon,Sr as > Dugal's > > son-in-law. 25 years, > > maybe. But why? Dugal's will is my best guess,where he also > names some > > JOHN > > BROWN as his son-in-law. I say,John Brown,d 1810 at Hampstead on > land > > adjoining Thomas McQueen's > > "Fox Thicket. ". John,of Dugal's adjoining neighbor,Georhe and > Mary > > Stevenson Brown. > > > > Speaking of Thomas McQueen,of Dugal. It's been mentioned that he > died,in > > Nov,1763,in the > > Big Cove,from Indian Attack. I'd like to suggest that "if" > Thomas died > > in the Big Cove,of very s Pa near > > Hancock,Md,and of Indian attack,that "JULY" 1763 fits Pontiac's > 1763 > > Indian attacks better than NOV. > > But zero proof of his death,then and there. > > > > On Sun, 5 Oct 2003 22:50:38 -0400 "J. Grezlik" > <jcgrezlik@bright.net> > > writes: > > > Hello, I have been watching this information with much interest. > I > > > have a > > > question concerning a daughter of Dugal being married to a > Logsdon. > > > Has > > > this relationship been proven beyond doubt? I haven't done as > much > > > research > > > on the daughter(s) as you appear to have done, but I had not > found > > > anything > > > that "proved" any link between Mrs. Logsdon and Dugal. Can you > clear > > > this up > > > for me? there may be valuable clues in the information that > would > > > help me > > > with more detailed information on Dugal's son and grandson, > William. > > > Thank > > > you for your help. > > > Jane in Ohio > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Hermon B Fagley" <hermfagley@juno.com> > > > To: <McQUEEN-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2003 8:23 AM > > > Subject: [McQUEEN] Re: 1720 N of Baltimore, George and Mary > > > Stevenson > > > Brown[e] > > > > > > > > > > Dick,Mrs Robert W. Barnes is from George Brown[e,d 1770's > ],and > > > son,John > > > > Brown,d 1810, so he wrote > > > > an Edward Strevenson booklet 20 years ago.We disagree on > whether > > > John > > > > Brown's wife > > > > is Dugal McQueen's daughter. Bill Shaffer located George Brown > and > > > > Dugal's farms as touching at Westminster,Md ,and > > > > John Brown's and Thomas McQueen's farms as touching at > > > Hampstead,Md. > > > > Bill and Marleen Shaffer's Brown line has never moved-he's at > > > > Finksburg,Md . > > > > The Brown's very married into the Richards-some here to > Clermont > > > Co,SW > > > > Ohio. > > > > > > > > John Brown's Mary m Edward Logsdon,Jr lived Madison Co,Ky > > > > Dugal McQueen's dau m Edward Logsdon,Sr. > > > > > > > > Also Capt-Lt-JP-Rev George Brown,d 1814, and wife Elizabeth > > > McQueen had > > > > Ruth Brown,who m 1794, > > > > Madison Co,Ky to Robert Brown. Their son,Wm,and his son,John > > > Brown,m > > > > Richards here in sw Ohio > > > > John Brown-latter-has a published biography. > > > > I own 4-5 of Robert Barnes books, including 'Baltimore > Co,Families > > > > 1659-1759" > > > > > > > > On Sat, 04 Oct 2003 19:06:22 -0400 "Richard T. 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Herman, I am about an hour and a half west of Weirton, a few miles from where William McQueen II settled with his family. Jane ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hermon B Fagley" <hermfagley@juno.com> To: <McQUEEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 9:10 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [McQUEEN] Re: 1720 N of Baltimore, George and Mary Stevenson Brown[e] > Jane,in Ohio. Where? I'm east of Cincinnati where George and Elizabeth > McQueen Brown settled in 1802 [Dugal,Thomas,Sr.].They had lived on the Ky > bank of the > Ohio a few mies south,in 1798-1802. [Carntown,Kt] and miles up-river at > Weirton WV- > sTUBENVILLE,oH 1773-87. Another one,James,of Thomas ,of Dugal, lived > across the Ohio River > 2 places-w Vanceburg,Ky,and Orangedale,Ky. > > On Sun, 5 Oct 2003 22:50:38 -0400 "J. Grezlik" <jcgrezlik@bright.net> > writes: > > Hello, I have been watching this information with much interest. I > > have a > > question concerning a daughter of Dugal being married to a Logsdon. > > Has > > this relationship been proven beyond doubt? I haven't done as much > > research > > on the daughter(s) as you appear to have done, but I had not found > > anything > > that "proved" any link between Mrs. Logsdon and Dugal. Can you clear > > this up > > for me? there may be valuable clues in the information that would > > help me > > with more detailed information on Dugal's son and grandson, William. > > Thank > > you for your help. > > Jane in Ohio > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Hermon B Fagley" <hermfagley@juno.com> > > To: <McQUEEN-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2003 8:23 AM > > Subject: [McQUEEN] Re: 1720 N of Baltimore, George and Mary > > Stevenson > > Brown[e] > > > > > > > Dick,Mrs Robert W. Barnes is from George Brown[e,d 1770's ],and > > son,John > > > Brown,d 1810, so he wrote > > > an Edward Strevenson booklet 20 years ago.We disagree on whether > > John > > > Brown's wife > > > is Dugal McQueen's daughter. Bill Shaffer located George Brown and > > > Dugal's farms as touching at Westminster,Md ,and > > > John Brown's and Thomas McQueen's farms as touching at > > Hampstead,Md. > > > Bill and Marleen Shaffer's Brown line has never moved-he's at > > > Finksburg,Md . > > > The Brown's very married into the Richards-some here to Clermont > > Co,SW > > > Ohio. > > > > > > John Brown's Mary m Edward Logsdon,Jr lived Madison Co,Ky > > > Dugal McQueen's dau m Edward Logsdon,Sr. > > > > > > Also Capt-Lt-JP-Rev George Brown,d 1814, and wife Elizabeth > > McQueen had > > > Ruth Brown,who m 1794, > > > Madison Co,Ky to Robert Brown. Their son,Wm,and his son,John > > Brown,m > > > Richards here in sw Ohio > > > John Brown-latter-has a published biography. > > > I own 4-5 of Robert Barnes books, including 'Baltimore Co,Families > > > 1659-1759" > > > > > > On Sat, 04 Oct 2003 19:06:22 -0400 "Richard T. 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I'm not real clear on the females lines so I may well be off base. But from what I know of the will (have copy) there were no daughters mentioned and John Brown may well have been the son of Dugal's wife, Grace. I am familiar with the fact that in that time frame a "son-in-law" did not mean what it does today, a son by marriage. Then, it could be any male that Dugal may have "taken in". this is one of the reasons I am so interested in the females and "proof". ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hermon B Fagley" <hermfagley@juno.com> To: <McQUEEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 8:31 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [McQUEEN] Re: July,1763 Pontiac' War Indian attacks on w Md/mid s Pa. > Oh,my! Must be 20 years I've considered Edward Logsdon,Sr as Dugal's > son-in-law. 25 years, > maybe. But why? Dugal's will is my best guess,where he also names some > JOHN > BROWN as his son-in-law. I say,John Brown,d 1810 at Hampstead on land > adjoining Thomas McQueen's > "Fox Thicket. ". John,of Dugal's adjoining neighbor,Georhe and Mary > Stevenson Brown. > > Speaking of Thomas McQueen,of Dugal. It's been mentioned that he died,in > Nov,1763,in the > Big Cove,from Indian Attack. I'd like to suggest that "if" Thomas died > in the Big Cove,of very s Pa near > Hancock,Md,and of Indian attack,that "JULY" 1763 fits Pontiac's 1763 > Indian attacks better than NOV. > But zero proof of his death,then and there. > > On Sun, 5 Oct 2003 22:50:38 -0400 "J. Grezlik" <jcgrezlik@bright.net> > writes: > > Hello, I have been watching this information with much interest. I > > have a > > question concerning a daughter of Dugal being married to a Logsdon. > > Has > > this relationship been proven beyond doubt? I haven't done as much > > research > > on the daughter(s) as you appear to have done, but I had not found > > anything > > that "proved" any link between Mrs. Logsdon and Dugal. Can you clear > > this up > > for me? there may be valuable clues in the information that would > > help me > > with more detailed information on Dugal's son and grandson, William. > > Thank > > you for your help. > > Jane in Ohio > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Hermon B Fagley" <hermfagley@juno.com> > > To: <McQUEEN-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2003 8:23 AM > > Subject: [McQUEEN] Re: 1720 N of Baltimore, George and Mary > > Stevenson > > Brown[e] > > > > > > > Dick,Mrs Robert W. Barnes is from George Brown[e,d 1770's ],and > > son,John > > > Brown,d 1810, so he wrote > > > an Edward Strevenson booklet 20 years ago.We disagree on whether > > John > > > Brown's wife > > > is Dugal McQueen's daughter. Bill Shaffer located George Brown and > > > Dugal's farms as touching at Westminster,Md ,and > > > John Brown's and Thomas McQueen's farms as touching at > > Hampstead,Md. > > > Bill and Marleen Shaffer's Brown line has never moved-he's at > > > Finksburg,Md . > > > The Brown's very married into the Richards-some here to Clermont > > Co,SW > > > Ohio. > > > > > > John Brown's Mary m Edward Logsdon,Jr lived Madison Co,Ky > > > Dugal McQueen's dau m Edward Logsdon,Sr. > > > > > > Also Capt-Lt-JP-Rev George Brown,d 1814, and wife Elizabeth > > McQueen had > > > Ruth Brown,who m 1794, > > > Madison Co,Ky to Robert Brown. Their son,Wm,and his son,John > > Brown,m > > > Richards here in sw Ohio > > > John Brown-latter-has a published biography. > > > I own 4-5 of Robert Barnes books, including 'Baltimore Co,Families > > > 1659-1759" > > > > > > On Sat, 04 Oct 2003 19:06:22 -0400 "Richard T. Koch" > > > <rtkoch@hereintown.net> writes: > > > > Barnes, Robert W., Baltimore County Families 1659-1759, Gen Pub > > Co., > > > > page 444 > > > > > > > > This reference gives the Merryman line back to John, d 10 Nov > > 1680, > > > > in > > > > Lancaster Co., VA. > > > > Unnamed daughter's of Charles Merryman Jr. shown are Ann > > Richards, > > > > Elizabeth Cross, Jemima w/o Henry Stevenson, and Kedometh. > > Article > > > > shows William and (John) Charles as sons. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > > > The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! > > > Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! > > > Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! > > > > > > > > > ==== McQUEEN Mailing List ==== > > > RootsWeb forbids posting of copyrighted material without > > > permission of the author. 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Jane,in Ohio. Where? I'm east of Cincinnati where George and Elizabeth McQueen Brown settled in 1802 [Dugal,Thomas,Sr.].They had lived on the Ky bank of the Ohio a few mies south,in 1798-1802. [Carntown,Kt] and miles up-river at Weirton WV- sTUBENVILLE,oH 1773-87. Another one,James,of Thomas ,of Dugal, lived across the Ohio River 2 places-w Vanceburg,Ky,and Orangedale,Ky. On Sun, 5 Oct 2003 22:50:38 -0400 "J. Grezlik" <jcgrezlik@bright.net> writes: > Hello, I have been watching this information with much interest. I > have a > question concerning a daughter of Dugal being married to a Logsdon. > Has > this relationship been proven beyond doubt? I haven't done as much > research > on the daughter(s) as you appear to have done, but I had not found > anything > that "proved" any link between Mrs. Logsdon and Dugal. Can you clear > this up > for me? there may be valuable clues in the information that would > help me > with more detailed information on Dugal's son and grandson, William. > Thank > you for your help. > Jane in Ohio > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Hermon B Fagley" <hermfagley@juno.com> > To: <McQUEEN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2003 8:23 AM > Subject: [McQUEEN] Re: 1720 N of Baltimore, George and Mary > Stevenson > Brown[e] > > > > Dick,Mrs Robert W. Barnes is from George Brown[e,d 1770's ],and > son,John > > Brown,d 1810, so he wrote > > an Edward Strevenson booklet 20 years ago.We disagree on whether > John > > Brown's wife > > is Dugal McQueen's daughter. Bill Shaffer located George Brown and > > Dugal's farms as touching at Westminster,Md ,and > > John Brown's and Thomas McQueen's farms as touching at > Hampstead,Md. > > Bill and Marleen Shaffer's Brown line has never moved-he's at > > Finksburg,Md . > > The Brown's very married into the Richards-some here to Clermont > Co,SW > > Ohio. > > > > John Brown's Mary m Edward Logsdon,Jr lived Madison Co,Ky > > Dugal McQueen's dau m Edward Logsdon,Sr. > > > > Also Capt-Lt-JP-Rev George Brown,d 1814, and wife Elizabeth > McQueen had > > Ruth Brown,who m 1794, > > Madison Co,Ky to Robert Brown. Their son,Wm,and his son,John > Brown,m > > Richards here in sw Ohio > > John Brown-latter-has a published biography. > > I own 4-5 of Robert Barnes books, including 'Baltimore Co,Families > > 1659-1759" > > > > On Sat, 04 Oct 2003 19:06:22 -0400 "Richard T. Koch" > > <rtkoch@hereintown.net> writes: > > > Barnes, Robert W., Baltimore County Families 1659-1759, Gen Pub > Co., > > > page 444 > > > > > > This reference gives the Merryman line back to John, d 10 Nov > 1680, > > > in > > > Lancaster Co., VA. > > > Unnamed daughter's of Charles Merryman Jr. shown are Ann > Richards, > > > Elizabeth Cross, Jemima w/o Henry Stevenson, and Kedometh. > Article > > > shows William and (John) Charles as sons. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > > The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! > > Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! > > Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! > > > > > > ==== McQUEEN Mailing List ==== > > RootsWeb forbids posting of copyrighted material without > > permission of the author. Read RootsWeb's Acceptable Use Policy > > at http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/aup.html > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > ==== McQUEEN Mailing List ==== > To ask for a lookup or volunteer to do acts of genealogical > kindness, > visit Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness, http://www.RAOGK.org > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

Oh,my! Must be 20 years I've considered Edward Logsdon,Sr as Dugal's son-in-law. 25 years, maybe. But why? Dugal's will is my best guess,where he also names some JOHN BROWN as his son-in-law. I say,John Brown,d 1810 at Hampstead on land adjoining Thomas McQueen's "Fox Thicket. ". John,of Dugal's adjoining neighbor,Georhe and Mary Stevenson Brown. Speaking of Thomas McQueen,of Dugal. It's been mentioned that he died,in Nov,1763,in the Big Cove,from Indian Attack. I'd like to suggest that "if" Thomas died in the Big Cove,of very s Pa near Hancock,Md,and of Indian attack,that "JULY" 1763 fits Pontiac's 1763 Indian attacks better than NOV. But zero proof of his death,then and there. On Sun, 5 Oct 2003 22:50:38 -0400 "J. Grezlik" <jcgrezlik@bright.net> writes: > Hello, I have been watching this information with much interest. I > have a > question concerning a daughter of Dugal being married to a Logsdon. > Has > this relationship been proven beyond doubt? I haven't done as much > research > on the daughter(s) as you appear to have done, but I had not found > anything > that "proved" any link between Mrs. Logsdon and Dugal. Can you clear > this up > for me? there may be valuable clues in the information that would > help me > with more detailed information on Dugal's son and grandson, William. > Thank > you for your help. > Jane in Ohio > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Hermon B Fagley" <hermfagley@juno.com> > To: <McQUEEN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2003 8:23 AM > Subject: [McQUEEN] Re: 1720 N of Baltimore, George and Mary > Stevenson > Brown[e] > > > > Dick,Mrs Robert W. Barnes is from George Brown[e,d 1770's ],and > son,John > > Brown,d 1810, so he wrote > > an Edward Strevenson booklet 20 years ago.We disagree on whether > John > > Brown's wife > > is Dugal McQueen's daughter. Bill Shaffer located George Brown and > > Dugal's farms as touching at Westminster,Md ,and > > John Brown's and Thomas McQueen's farms as touching at > Hampstead,Md. > > Bill and Marleen Shaffer's Brown line has never moved-he's at > > Finksburg,Md . > > The Brown's very married into the Richards-some here to Clermont > Co,SW > > Ohio. > > > > John Brown's Mary m Edward Logsdon,Jr lived Madison Co,Ky > > Dugal McQueen's dau m Edward Logsdon,Sr. > > > > Also Capt-Lt-JP-Rev George Brown,d 1814, and wife Elizabeth > McQueen had > > Ruth Brown,who m 1794, > > Madison Co,Ky to Robert Brown. Their son,Wm,and his son,John > Brown,m > > Richards here in sw Ohio > > John Brown-latter-has a published biography. > > I own 4-5 of Robert Barnes books, including 'Baltimore Co,Families > > 1659-1759" > > > > On Sat, 04 Oct 2003 19:06:22 -0400 "Richard T. Koch" > > <rtkoch@hereintown.net> writes: > > > Barnes, Robert W., Baltimore County Families 1659-1759, Gen Pub > Co., > > > page 444 > > > > > > This reference gives the Merryman line back to John, d 10 Nov > 1680, > > > in > > > Lancaster Co., VA. > > > Unnamed daughter's of Charles Merryman Jr. shown are Ann > Richards, > > > Elizabeth Cross, Jemima w/o Henry Stevenson, and Kedometh. > Article > > > shows William and (John) Charles as sons. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > > The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! > > Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! > > Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! > > > > > > ==== McQUEEN Mailing List ==== > > RootsWeb forbids posting of copyrighted material without > > permission of the author. Read RootsWeb's Acceptable Use Policy > > at http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/aup.html > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > ==== McQUEEN Mailing List ==== > To ask for a lookup or volunteer to do acts of genealogical > kindness, > visit Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness, http://www.RAOGK.org > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

Hello, I have been watching this information with much interest. I have a question concerning a daughter of Dugal being married to a Logsdon. Has this relationship been proven beyond doubt? I haven't done as much research on the daughter(s) as you appear to have done, but I had not found anything that "proved" any link between Mrs. Logsdon and Dugal. Can you clear this up for me? there may be valuable clues in the information that would help me with more detailed information on Dugal's son and grandson, William. Thank you for your help. Jane in Ohio ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hermon B Fagley" <hermfagley@juno.com> To: <McQUEEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2003 8:23 AM Subject: [McQUEEN] Re: 1720 N of Baltimore, George and Mary Stevenson Brown[e] > Dick,Mrs Robert W. Barnes is from George Brown[e,d 1770's ],and son,John > Brown,d 1810, so he wrote > an Edward Strevenson booklet 20 years ago.We disagree on whether John > Brown's wife > is Dugal McQueen's daughter. Bill Shaffer located George Brown and > Dugal's farms as touching at Westminster,Md ,and > John Brown's and Thomas McQueen's farms as touching at Hampstead,Md. > Bill and Marleen Shaffer's Brown line has never moved-he's at > Finksburg,Md . > The Brown's very married into the Richards-some here to Clermont Co,SW > Ohio. > > John Brown's Mary m Edward Logsdon,Jr lived Madison Co,Ky > Dugal McQueen's dau m Edward Logsdon,Sr. > > Also Capt-Lt-JP-Rev George Brown,d 1814, and wife Elizabeth McQueen had > Ruth Brown,who m 1794, > Madison Co,Ky to Robert Brown. Their son,Wm,and his son,John Brown,m > Richards here in sw Ohio > John Brown-latter-has a published biography. > I own 4-5 of Robert Barnes books, including 'Baltimore Co,Families > 1659-1759" > > On Sat, 04 Oct 2003 19:06:22 -0400 "Richard T. Koch" > <rtkoch@hereintown.net> writes: > > Barnes, Robert W., Baltimore County Families 1659-1759, Gen Pub Co., > > page 444 > > > > This reference gives the Merryman line back to John, d 10 Nov 1680, > > in > > Lancaster Co., VA. > > Unnamed daughter's of Charles Merryman Jr. shown are Ann Richards, > > Elizabeth Cross, Jemima w/o Henry Stevenson, and Kedometh. Article > > shows William and (John) Charles as sons. > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! > Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! > Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! > > > ==== McQUEEN Mailing List ==== > RootsWeb forbids posting of copyrighted material without > permission of the author. Read RootsWeb's Acceptable Use Policy > at http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/aup.html > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Dick,Mrs Robert W. Barnes is from George Brown[e,d 1770's ],and son,John Brown,d 1810, so he wrote an Edward Strevenson booklet 20 years ago.We disagree on whether John Brown's wife is Dugal McQueen's daughter. Bill Shaffer located George Brown and Dugal's farms as touching at Westminster,Md ,and John Brown's and Thomas McQueen's farms as touching at Hampstead,Md. Bill and Marleen Shaffer's Brown line has never moved-he's at Finksburg,Md . The Brown's very married into the Richards-some here to Clermont Co,SW Ohio. John Brown's Mary m Edward Logsdon,Jr lived Madison Co,Ky Dugal McQueen's dau m Edward Logsdon,Sr. Also Capt-Lt-JP-Rev George Brown,d 1814, and wife Elizabeth McQueen had Ruth Brown,who m 1794, Madison Co,Ky to Robert Brown. Their son,Wm,and his son,John Brown,m Richards here in sw Ohio John Brown-latter-has a published biography. I own 4-5 of Robert Barnes books, including 'Baltimore Co,Families 1659-1759" On Sat, 04 Oct 2003 19:06:22 -0400 "Richard T. Koch" <rtkoch@hereintown.net> writes: > Barnes, Robert W., Baltimore County Families 1659-1759, Gen Pub Co., > page 444 > > This reference gives the Merryman line back to John, d 10 Nov 1680, > in > Lancaster Co., VA. > Unnamed daughter's of Charles Merryman Jr. shown are Ann Richards, > Elizabeth Cross, Jemima w/o Henry Stevenson, and Kedometh. Article > shows William and (John) Charles as sons. > > > > ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

1740's they moved west adjoining Dugal McQueen at Westminster,Md Some say Edwaed Stevenson, endentured servant to gentleman, d Rogers Forge, n Baltimore,was married to a KING,and some say MERRYMAN. Last Will and Testament of CHARLES MERRYMAN JR of Baltimore County, dated 25 Dec 1720, proved 23 June 1722 In the Name of God, Amen, I Charles Merryman Junior of Baltimore County, planter, being sick and weak in body but of perfect mind, memory and understanding, first and principally recommend my soul into ye hands of ye almighty, my body I commit to ye earth to be decently (----) at the discretion of my Executrix, herein after named. Imprimus, I give and bequeath unto my two sons William and Charles and their heirs lawfully begotten in wedlock, all my tract of land whereon I now live called by name of Merrimans Beginning, to be equally divided betwixt ye said William and Charles. Also I give and bequeath my tract of land at Gunpowder called Brotherly Fellowship to be equally divided betwixt my two sons William and Charles and their heirs lawfully begotten in wedlock. Item, I give and bequeath unto my son William a young sorrel mare branded CM. Also to my son Charles Merryman, ye cattle which I previously gave him. I give unto my son Charles Merryman one black mare branded W and one three year old heiffer and her female incesafe(?). Item, I give and bequeath unto my son William all my wearing apparel. Item, I give unto my servant man Patrick one cow calf. Item, my will and (----) is that my loving wife Jane Merryman shall have ye priviledge of either my plantations which she shall think fit to live on during her life and to clear and make use of such timber as shall be useful on ye plantation without any interruption from either my sons William or Charles or their heirs or any that shall possess after them. Furthermore my desire is that my loving wife Jane Merriman shall be my whole and sole Executrix of all that I have and after all my debts shall be paid all ye remaining part of my estate to be equally divided amongst all my children. Lastly, I do hereby dismiss, revoke and make void all my former and other wills and testaments by me heretofore made in witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand and soul this the three pieces of lines being interlined in this my last will this 25th day of December 1720. his Charles Merryman mark Witness....... George Browne Edward Stevenson John (mark) Merryman Mary (mark) Merryman Maryland, the June 23 1722 There came George Browne, Edward Stevenson, John Merryman & Mary Merryman the subscribing evidence (??) ro the above mentioned will and make oath on the holy Evangels of Almighty God that they saw the testator Charles Merryman sign and seal the above will as his last will and testament and that he published and declared ...that at the time of his so doing he was of sound and perfect mind and memory to the best of their knowledge. Sworn to before me.....County of Baltimore June 22, 1702... transcribed and contributed to the USGenWeb/MDGenWeb Project by: Stephen Ford Return to the Will Index Page ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

Hello, I`m researching McQueen from Stranraer and Stevenston in Scotland William Glendinning

------- Forwarded message follows ------- Date sent: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 20:34:57 -0600 From: patsy mapel <pmapel@peoplepc.com> Subject: Maguerite McQUEEN /MAKIN / McHUGH d/o James McQUEEN & Helena COCKRAN / COQUELIN of Chester Co. PA, m. 1. John MURPHY m. 2. John MAYER of Boston > LA c1790 Gatewayed Message Board Post, Classification: Query Surnames: McQueen, McHugh, Makin, Mayer, Murphy -- Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/XI0.2ACEB/451.1 Message Board Post - $$$ Please CLICK the LINK to Reply $$$ : I have a family that on some document s it written with McQueen as the last name. I have a 4th great grandmother named Maguerite McQueen.But they used Makin and Mchugh,too as the same name. Her father was James McQueen and mother was Helena Cockran or Coquelin of Chester County , Penn. Marguerite married John Murphy (he dies ) then she marries John Mayer of Boston. Margueite and John mayer settled in Louisiana about 1790. ------- End of forwarded message -------

------- Forwarded message follows ------- Date sent: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 19:44:37 -0600 From: jcgrezlik@bright.net Subject: Re: Was the surname McDUGAL changed to McQUEEN on arrival to US? -- NO Gatewayed Message Board Post, Classification: Query Surnames: McQueen -- Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/XI0.2ACEB/449.1 Message Board Post - $$$ Please CLICK the LINK to Reply $$$ : I don't know of any McDugal being changed to McQueen. However Dugal McQueen was transported to the Americas for a being Jacobite rebel. Better than getting your head chopped off!! Don't shed any tears over the pseudo research done by your cousin, he'll learn at some point, you can take comfort in your valid and provable research. The family finds it more exciting to be "royalty" than a rebel. Hang in there. Jane ------- End of forwarded message -------

I don't know of any McDugal being changed to McQueen. However Dugal McQueen was transported to the Americas for a being Jacobite rebel. Better than getting your head chopped off!! Don't shed any tears of the pseudo research done by your cousin, he'll learn at some point, you can take comfort in your valid and provable research. The family finds it more exciting to be "royalty" than a rebel. Hang in there. Jane in Ohio ----- Original Message ----- From: "Valorie Zimmerman" <valoriez@zimres.net> To: <McQUEEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 6:41 AM Subject: [McQUEEN] Fwd: Was the surname McDUGAL changed to McQUEEN on arrival to US? > ------- Forwarded message follows ------- > > Date sent: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 07:43:01 -0700 > From: Andrea <andrea_a_w@hotmail.com> > Subject: Was the surname McDUGAL changed to McQUEEN on arrival to US? > > Gatewayed Message Board Post, Classification: Query > Surnames: McQueen, McDugal -- Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/XI0.2ACEB/449 > > Message Board Post - $$$ Please CLICK the LINK to Reply $$$ : > > been working on my family tree for yrs thought i was doing pretty good till my cousin decided he was going to do it couple months ago.Well here is problem HAS ANYONE heard that the name McDugal was changed to McQueen when they arrived here in states ??? I have yet to see cuz,s work but he claims to have contact in scotland who knows all abt the McQueens here and that we were McDugals guards to some princess or queen and when she died the king supposedly exciled us to states because we knew to much.This is not > at all what i have and at this point im almost in tears because my work is garbage (in my family the guy is right and besides his version is fairy tale like)I have paper work and everything but he downloaded all this garb off internet and had some pic of castle that supposedly belonged to us.HELP. > I am at point that im just going to quit even trying if its that easy to switch familys. > Andi > > ------- End of forwarded message ------- > > > ==== McQUEEN Mailing List ==== > Rootsweb has created a resource page for us, with a number of searches > and other goodies: http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/m/c/MCQUEEN > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Just a reminder to all -- When I have forwarded a Message Board post to the list, and you want the reply to reach the poster, you can can either 1. Click the Link, and reply on the board, or 2. reply to the list, and include the poster in a CC (not me! I just forward the messages to the list). If you merely reply to the list, chances are, your reply will NOT reach the poster, since few Message Board posters are list subscribers. This is why I go to the extra trouble of forwarding the posts, and adding the line: - $$$ Please CLICK the LINK to Reply $$$ Valorie On 10 Sep 2003 at 7:47, Hermon B Fagley wrote: > Scarf,in his "History of Baltimore Co,Md " gives the 1716 roster of > passengers > of the ship of P.O.W.s from England, including Dugal,and other McQueen's. > > On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 03:41:30 -0700 "Valorie Zimmerman" > <valoriez@zimres.net> writes: > > ------- Forwarded message follows ------- > > > > Date sent: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 07:43:01 -0700 > > From: Andrea <andrea_a_w@hotmail.com> > > Subject: Was the surname McDUGAL changed to McQUEEN on arrival to > > US? > > > > Gatewayed Message Board Post, Classification: Query > > Surnames: McQueen, McDugal -- Message Board URL: > > > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/XI0.2ACEB/449 > > > > Message Board Post - $$$ Please CLICK the LINK to Reply $$$ : > > > > been working on my family tree for yrs thought i was doing pretty <snip>