I'd like to see a discussion of another James, that other ? son of William the elder of VA. The only followup I know of with him, is his appearance to sign for the marriage of his daughter, Ben Callahan's ancestor, in NC. By the date of that signing, in the 1760's, it's possible to think that either he's William the elder's oldest son; or possibly a brother. We now think that we are descendants of his. We think the Thos. in Fayette Co., KY in 1810 (this is a separate one from the Thos. in Lincoln Co. KY) was his son; we think he was the father of our Samuel who was in Barren Co., KY in 1830, and whose chn. include Thos W. (my ancestor), John Green (his two daughters m. Guest and Garnett, both went to TX near their aunt Isabelle), Isabelle, who m. Smith James, Dorles Repass' ancestor, and William H., who was in Barren Co., KY until near the Civil War and who apparently left no male descendants. Note that the only known male descendants of Samuel, therefore, are from my Thomas W., who wound up in Franklin Co., AR. We also think that Thomas (Fayette) had a son James (the firstborn, probably), who had a son Thomas, who m. (probably a second marriage) Margaret Waller, Union Co., KY. No proof for most of this. But the names fit, the time fits, and we were always told by our McM family historian, who's been remarkably accurate, that the McMs came from Lexington, KY. Another name skips along with these families is Cruise/Cruce/Cruse etc. Would welcome any discussion. Wilda McMurry