Don, Just FYI: I've looked at the surnames Fielding/Fielden/Feland for some time trying to determine how they fit in with the James and McMurry surnames. The Fielding/Fielden/Feland surnames were all present in early Lincoln county, KY. In Warren and Barren counties, KY a William Fielding/Feland (both spellings on various deeds/documents) lived next door to my direct James ancestor. Further, in Barren county, the Feland family married into the McMurry family. Thought the names "Feland" and "Fielding" might be helpful in your research. Dorles -----Original Message----- From: Don McMurray [mailto:don@norrishouse.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 5:12 PM To: MCMURRY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [McMurry] Fielden McMurray Dorles, sorry, you are right, Fielden left central Ill. for Oregon in 1853. He is the half-brother of my ancestor, William McMurray. Their father is James McMurray (KY) (b. ca. 1758). James married first Janet Jane McElwee (b. 1772) on 30 Dec 1790 in Lincoln Co., Ky. and their known children are Janet Jane (b. ca. 1791) my ancestor, William (b. 1792), Sally (b. ca. 1795), and James (b. ca. 1797). After Janet Jane died in 1797, James married Margaret Priest Smith on 20 Jan 1799. Margaret's & James's children are Jane Lennette (b. 18 Nov 1799), John C. (b. ca. 1800), George H. (b. 02 June 1802), Clelland (b. ca. 1809), Mary (b. ca. 1813), Fielden (b. 31 May 1814), H.A. (pos, child, b. 1815), and Corbin (b. pos 1816). James McMurray (KY)'s parents are Agnes & William McMurray (VA) and his grandfather is William McMurray (VA the Elder) of Ireland, an Ulster Scot, who, according to family tradition, "brot his five sonnes (and at least one daughter) over the briney deepe" to America. Agnes's & William's children's ages are uncertain so I'll give my best guess. All were apparently born in the Shenandoah Valley of Va. on the Cowpasture River, Augusta, now Botetourt Co., Va. They are John (b. ca. 1752-53), James (b. ca. 1758), Thomas (b. ca. 1760 or 1765), Janet Jane (b. ca. 1771), Agnes (b. ca. 1772), and Robert (b. Dec 1772). Agnes's and William's children left Va. between 1782 (Thomas), 1789 (all but Robert) and 1804 (Robert). Everyone went into the area of Va. that became Ky. and settled in either Lincoln Co. (Thomas) or on the Rolling fork of the Salt River in Nelson, now Marion Co., Ky. Regards, Don I've traced my family all the way from first picked -----Original Message----- From: Repass, Dorles L [mailto:dorles.repass@eds.com] Sent: Monday, December 18, 2000 2:29 PM To: MCMURRY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [McMurry] Fielden McMurray Don, The name "Smith McMurray" is interesting. Smith James's mother was Martha "Patsy" Snead. Martha had a brother named Smith Snead. Smith James also had an uncle by marriage, Peyton Smith. So, I suppose the "Smith" in Smith James's name could come from either of these uncles. Then, of course, Smith James had another uncle, Fielden/Fielding James. You mentioned that Fielden McMurray was a farmer in Illinois prior to moving to Oregon in 1753. Is this a correct date? Should it be 1853? Can you tell me more about Fielden McMurray? His parents? Other siblings? It seems possible that there could be a connection between your McMurray line and my McMurry line. Thanks. Dorles -----Original Message----- From: Don McMurray [mailto:don@norrishouse.com] Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2000 5:11 PM To: MCMURRY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [McMurry] Samuel McMURRY m. Elizabeth HUDDLESTON 1786 in Rutherford Co., NC It's interesting how the given names follow the family. There is also a Smith McMurray in our line but no one has figured out why the name Smith was given to him. I always thought it was just a mix-up in the records. Don -----Original Message----- From: Repass, Dorles L [mailto:dorles.repass@eds.com] Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 10:41 AM To: MCMURRY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [McMurry] Samuel McMURRY m. Elizabeth HUDDLESTON 1786 in Rutherford Co., NC Don, I don't know if you remember corresponding with me. I am looking for the family of Isabelle McMurry who married Smith James between 1820-1825. Smith James was from Barren county, KY. He and Isabelle moved to Texas in 1854. I have never found their marriage record, but Smith was apparently in Alabama for a short period sometime between and 1820 and 1830. I am in close contact with Wilda McMurry who has been involved in this latest McMurry discussion. The name Fielden is important to the James family. Smith James's uncle was Fielden/Fielding James who died young in Barren county in 1817. Fielding James's widow was Sally Custer James who later married Michael Robinson and migrated to Jefferson county, Indiana. It is believed that Fielding James's mother, Ruth, may have been a Fielding/Fielden by birth. Dorles Repass - ==== MCMURRY Mailing List ==== Post your McMURRY, Bible Records at the following URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/m/c/MCMURRY/bible_record s ==== MCMURRY Mailing List ==== Post your McMURRY Deeds at the following URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/m/c/MCMURRY/deeds