How do the Samuel , Thomas, William, and Robert McMurry of old Tryon Co. NC fit in with your group of McMurrys? Dates range from 1770 -1787 there abts. I find Samuel and William McMurry in Green Co. Tn. 1783 Tax List and some in Ala. abt 1812. How does Samuel McMurry who dies Rutherford co NC abt 1805 fit in?

Michelle, Thomas McMurray, son of William (son of William the Elder) was the first of the siblings to move to Ky. Interestingly, and I have never found out why, he settled in and died in Crab Orchard, Lincoln Co., Ky. This wasn't too far from where the other siblings settled in 1789 on Thomas's brother, John's 1,000 acre claim on the Rolling fork near what is now Bradfordsville, Ky. The men you should consider for your Thomas McMurray's father are the brothers, John (the oldest), James (my ancestor), and Thomas of Crab Orchard, Ky. Another brother, Robert left the Shenandoah Valley of Va. (near where I now live) in 1811 to join the McMurray siblings (John, James, and their two married sisters) on the Rolling fork but Robert didn't have a son named Thomas. 1) Jane & James McMurray's son, Thomas was born circa 1794. The date is based on an 1815 Tax List in which this Thomas is listed in James's household as a "White male above 21." I know that Thomas is Jane & James's son because he and his brother, William (my ancestor), served together in the same outfit in 1814 at the Battle of New Orleans (as did several other McMurray cousins in other outfits). As you know, militia companies were formed in specific areas of a county. I have no information who Thomas married if, in fact, he did marry. 2) Christina & Thomas McMurray's son, Thomas was born about 1795, nothing else is known about him as far as I know. 3) Elizabeth & John McMurray's son, Thomas was born 19 June 1806. He married a Rebecca Pettus 1/24/1828. There is a lot of information on his family. As you can see, your best bets, depending on the age issue, are No's 1) and 2). Since nothing is known about these two sons named Thomas you may hit pay dirt. It will take someone like you to move back in time to identify your Thomas as a son of one of the McMurray men. Are you familiar with the Scot's "naming way"? It helped me a great deal when I traced my William to his birth location on the Rolling fork. At that time, there were eight men in Va., Ky. & Tenn. named William McMurray. I had to trace every one of these men named William until I found my guy. Good hunting and let me know if I can help. Don -----Original Message----- From: Michelle McMurray de Luces [mailto:smcmurray@nc.rr.com] Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 12:37 PM To: MCMURRY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [McMurry] McMurry family book Hi Don, That is quite a story! Thank you for taking the time to help others with your knowledge. I am wondering if the Thomas (brother of John)you mentioned is the Thomas I am looking for. The only info I have is Thomas E. T.? McMurray having lived in Kentucky or Illinois. He married a woman named "Mary." I have no date of births for these folks. I know that my Thomas was probably born around the late 1700's. Your Thomas may be too old to be the same guy. Tom & Mary bore a son named Huston (Houston?)Gillespie McMurray around 1825. It makes me wonder how in the world I'm going to find out since no one kept any records that are still with us. Michelle McMurray

Leslie, I have three Gilley McMurrys in my family but I dont know if any are the same or not. One died as a child, one b. 4-17-1790 d. 8-28-1870 wife of James, the other 5-4-1833 d. 9-23-1900 wife of William . My email is PGDavis47@hotmail.com Patty Davis >From: "Leslie & Gary Kohler" <Aug67@att.net> >Reply-To: MCMURRY-L@rootsweb.com >To: MCMURRY-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [McMurry] McMURRY in TN >Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 10:17:47 -0700 > >Good Morning Everyone -- > >All of this talk about TN made me want to repost what little I know >of my McMURRY line. > >My GGgrandparents were Frank McMURRY (b ca 1840) and Annetta >(or Amanda) PITT. [These according to the book, "A Family Called Fort".] > >Their dau [my Ggrandmother] was Gillie McMURRY (21 or 23 Nov 1866 >Robertson Co, TN - 13 May 1914 Springfield, Robertson Co, TN). >She m/John Thompson BRIDGES (1866-1949). > >A direct descendant of Eli McMURRY has told me that Eli was a brother >to 'my' Frank McMURRY. > >I'd appreciate any information that anyone here might have on this line >(including, but not limited to, any URL's with family lines). Thanks! I >will >get to primary documentation on this line someday. <grin> > >Leslie Bridges Kohler - List Administrator >P.O. Box 8137, Glendale, AZ 85312-8137 >P.O. Box 276, Carrollton, MO 64633-0276 > > _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

I enjoyed reading your McMurray info, but still can't tie it in with mine. My Samuel McMurry was born in Sullivan Co. TN about 1786 He was the son of Smauel and Elizabeth McMurray. He married Jane Ramey in about 1808 in what was probably then Washington CO VA. I have the following children: John, my ancestor born 1809 and married Edna Grizzle in 1831, Elizabeth, Joseph who had a son named Sanuel born 1866, the only other Samuel in this line, Sarh "Sally", Robert, Emaline, James, Ellijah J., Eliza Jane, Mary Jane. They resided in Scott CO Va. Samuel passed away November 6th, 1858 and his parents are listed on his death certificate. I believe that all of the Scott Co McMurrys decended from them. Do you have any more clues for me? WIth the name Samuel, and the location, I was hoping they tie in some how. If not, I would like to know where he came from. Thanks, Lisa Stephenson

I would be interested in someone helping me with the Thomas & Christina Dice Hisner line. Perhaps my Thomas McMurray is their son. Michelle McMurray smcmurray@nc.rr.com -----Original Message----- From: Rosemary Filyaw [mailto:jfilyaw2009@charter.net] Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 6:49 PM To: MCMURRY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [McMurry] McMurry family book I descend from the Thomas McMurry and Kitty Robinson. Their daughter, Elizabeth McMurry married Isaac Goodnight and they were my g-g-grandparents. Would like to help anyone with information that needs it on this line. Rosemary Birchfield Filyaw jfilyaw2009@charter.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah Barker" <Sarahbarker@sprintmail.com> To: <MCMURRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 10:57 AM Subject: Re: [McMurry] McMurry family book > Michelle, > > The Thomas who Don referred to settled in Lincoln County, Kentucky, > where he married 1. Catherine "Kitty" Robinson in 1784, and 2. Christina > Dice Hisner in 1792. Thomas and Christina did have a son Thomas born > circa 1795, but I have no further information on him. Perhaps someone > else does. > > Sally > > > Michelle McMurray de Luces wrote: > > > > Hi Don, > > > > That is quite a story! Thank you for taking the time to help others with > > your knowledge. > > > > I am wondering if the Thomas (brother of John)you mentioned is the Thomas I > > am looking for. The only info I have is Thomas E. T.? McMurray having lived > > in Kentucky or Illinois. He married a woman named "Mary." I have no date > > of births for these folks. I know that my Thomas was probably born around > > the late 1700's. Your Thomas may be too old to be the same guy. Tom & Mary > > bore a son named Huston (Houston?)Gillespie McMurray around 1825. > > > > It makes me wonder how in the world I'm going to find out since no one kept > > any records that are still with us. > > > > Michelle McMurray > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Don McMurray [mailto:don@norrishouse.com] > > Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 9:29 AM > > To: MCMURRY-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: RE: [McMurry] McMurry family book > > > > Hi Carol, sorry for the delay in this reply. Your asking for a ton of > > information. I've been working on our huge McMurray family since 1989 and > > only in the last five years have I cooled off doing research. Something > > about being an innkeeper has this kind of effect on doing genealogy. If you > > will indulge me, I'll concentrate on the McMurray men in Tenn. to allow for > > a shorter memo. We can go on from there once you connect to the family. I > > can provide the proofs of the information listed below as needed. > > > > Let me give you what I know and what I can prove about my McMurray family > > members who went to N.C. in 1780. And please allow me to continue to > > provide the information to you through this forum, it eliminates duplication > > and spreads the info over a larger group. I can document the move in 1780 > > by Samuel & William McMurray from Botetourt Co., Va. to N.C. (now Davidson > > Co., Tenn.). What I can't do for you is go much beyond that time and I'll > > explain this later. Now for the history on how Samuel and William arrived > > in N.C. > > > > As indicated in previous messages, in 1775 three McMurray cousins, John, son > > of William (son of William the Elder), and Samuel, son of Samuel (son of > > William the Elder) and William, son of one of the two fathers mentioned, > > made a trek to Ky. The three men claimed land in 1775-6 on the Rolling fork > > of the Salt River and then probably returned home to Va. in the spring or > > summer of 1776. These land claims are documented in a law suit that > > occurred when land-grabbers made duplicate claims on the McMurrays' (and > > many others') claims. The suit was settled in the McMurrays' favor under > > the auspices of a Virginia Land Commission. > > > > The above three McMurray cousins made another trek in 1780, this time > > accompanied by Thomas, brother of John. The four men served in the N.C. > > militia and were rewarded with land grants on the Cumberland River in what > > is now Davidson Co., Tenn. John & Thomas sold their grants and eventually > > settled and lived out their lives in Ky. Samuel and William decided to stay > > in N.C. (now Tenn.), sold their claims on the Rolling fork in Ky., and began > > their efforts to settle on their farms on the Cumberland. > > > > Unfortunately, both Samuel and William were killed by Indians. William in > > the fall of 1782, before he could start a family. Samuel was also killed on > > his farm in 1792 (his will was probated in Clark Co. Ky.). In this case, > > Samuel married a Sarah (Sallie) Kincaid in 1785 and had three sons, William > > (1786), John (1786 or 1787), and Samuel (after 1786, before 1793). These > > three sons are the ancestors of the southern branch of our McMurray family. > > Sallie later had a fourth son, Simpson (1796). She and the children lived > > with her father in Clark Co., Ky. until the boys were old enough to return > > their farm in Davidson Co., Tenn. > > > > Regards, Don > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Patricia Davis [mailto:pgdavis47@hotmail.com] > > Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 11:48 PM > > To: MCMURRY-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [McMurry] McMurry family book > > > > My McMurry family were from east Tennessee.I have some named John and some > > named James in my family, and I remember something about NC. > > > > >From: CRoy1238@aol.com > > >Reply-To: MCMURRY-L@rootsweb.com > > >To: MCMURRY-L@rootsweb.com > > >Subject: Re: [McMurry] McMurry family book > > >Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 11:31:56 EDT > > > > > >I am most interested in this family info. You can email me direct at > > >Croy1238@aol.com I am most interested in the Samuel McMurry. I think i > > >desc. from the one that died in Rutherford Co NC after comming from Va and > > >going i think into Tn then back to NC. I beleive his son James McMurry and > > >maybe other brothers went into East Tennessee before 1800 as James first > > >shows up as James McMurry in the early records and his name later becomes > > >James Murry, then James Murray. I do not have enough proof to prove this > > >but > > >this is my throry. I would love to know the early history and i will share > > >what ever i have on this family. Thanks, Carol > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > > http://www.hotmail.com >

I descend from the Thomas McMurry and Kitty Robinson. Their daughter, Elizabeth McMurry married Isaac Goodnight and they were my g-g-grandparents. Would like to help anyone with information that needs it on this line. Rosemary Birchfield Filyaw jfilyaw2009@charter.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah Barker" <Sarahbarker@sprintmail.com> To: <MCMURRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 10:57 AM Subject: Re: [McMurry] McMurry family book > Michelle, > > The Thomas who Don referred to settled in Lincoln County, Kentucky, > where he married 1. Catherine "Kitty" Robinson in 1784, and 2. Christina > Dice Hisner in 1792. Thomas and Christina did have a son Thomas born > circa 1795, but I have no further information on him. Perhaps someone > else does. > > Sally > > > Michelle McMurray de Luces wrote: > > > > Hi Don, > > > > That is quite a story! Thank you for taking the time to help others with > > your knowledge. > > > > I am wondering if the Thomas (brother of John)you mentioned is the Thomas I > > am looking for. The only info I have is Thomas E. T.? McMurray having lived > > in Kentucky or Illinois. He married a woman named "Mary." I have no date > > of births for these folks. I know that my Thomas was probably born around > > the late 1700's. Your Thomas may be too old to be the same guy. Tom & Mary > > bore a son named Huston (Houston?)Gillespie McMurray around 1825. > > > > It makes me wonder how in the world I'm going to find out since no one kept > > any records that are still with us. > > > > Michelle McMurray > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Don McMurray [mailto:don@norrishouse.com] > > Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 9:29 AM > > To: MCMURRY-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: RE: [McMurry] McMurry family book > > > > Hi Carol, sorry for the delay in this reply. Your asking for a ton of > > information. I've been working on our huge McMurray family since 1989 and > > only in the last five years have I cooled off doing research. Something > > about being an innkeeper has this kind of effect on doing genealogy. If you > > will indulge me, I'll concentrate on the McMurray men in Tenn. to allow for > > a shorter memo. We can go on from there once you connect to the family. I > > can provide the proofs of the information listed below as needed. > > > > Let me give you what I know and what I can prove about my McMurray family > > members who went to N.C. in 1780. And please allow me to continue to > > provide the information to you through this forum, it eliminates duplication > > and spreads the info over a larger group. I can document the move in 1780 > > by Samuel & William McMurray from Botetourt Co., Va. to N.C. (now Davidson > > Co., Tenn.). What I can't do for you is go much beyond that time and I'll > > explain this later. Now for the history on how Samuel and William arrived > > in N.C. > > > > As indicated in previous messages, in 1775 three McMurray cousins, John, son > > of William (son of William the Elder), and Samuel, son of Samuel (son of > > William the Elder) and William, son of one of the two fathers mentioned, > > made a trek to Ky. The three men claimed land in 1775-6 on the Rolling fork > > of the Salt River and then probably returned home to Va. in the spring or > > summer of 1776. These land claims are documented in a law suit that > > occurred when land-grabbers made duplicate claims on the McMurrays' (and > > many others') claims. The suit was settled in the McMurrays' favor under > > the auspices of a Virginia Land Commission. > > > > The above three McMurray cousins made another trek in 1780, this time > > accompanied by Thomas, brother of John. The four men served in the N.C. > > militia and were rewarded with land grants on the Cumberland River in what > > is now Davidson Co., Tenn. John & Thomas sold their grants and eventually > > settled and lived out their lives in Ky. Samuel and William decided to stay > > in N.C. (now Tenn.), sold their claims on the Rolling fork in Ky., and began > > their efforts to settle on their farms on the Cumberland. > > > > Unfortunately, both Samuel and William were killed by Indians. William in > > the fall of 1782, before he could start a family. Samuel was also killed on > > his farm in 1792 (his will was probated in Clark Co. Ky.). In this case, > > Samuel married a Sarah (Sallie) Kincaid in 1785 and had three sons, William > > (1786), John (1786 or 1787), and Samuel (after 1786, before 1793). These > > three sons are the ancestors of the southern branch of our McMurray family. > > Sallie later had a fourth son, Simpson (1796). She and the children lived > > with her father in Clark Co., Ky. until the boys were old enough to return > > their farm in Davidson Co., Tenn. > > > > Regards, Don > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Patricia Davis [mailto:pgdavis47@hotmail.com] > > Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 11:48 PM > > To: MCMURRY-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [McMurry] McMurry family book > > > > My McMurry family were from east Tennessee.I have some named John and some > > named James in my family, and I remember something about NC. > > > > >From: CRoy1238@aol.com > > >Reply-To: MCMURRY-L@rootsweb.com > > >To: MCMURRY-L@rootsweb.com > > >Subject: Re: [McMurry] McMurry family book > > >Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 11:31:56 EDT > > > > > >I am most interested in this family info. You can email me direct at > > >Croy1238@aol.com I am most interested in the Samuel McMurry. I think i > > >desc. from the one that died in Rutherford Co NC after comming from Va and > > >going i think into Tn then back to NC. I beleive his son James McMurry and > > >maybe other brothers went into East Tennessee before 1800 as James first > > >shows up as James McMurry in the early records and his name later becomes > > >James Murry, then James Murray. I do not have enough proof to prove this > > >but > > >this is my throry. I would love to know the early history and i will share > > >what ever i have on this family. Thanks, Carol > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > > http://www.hotmail.com >

Michelle, The Thomas who Don referred to settled in Lincoln County, Kentucky, where he married 1. Catherine "Kitty" Robinson in 1784, and 2. Christina Dice Hisner in 1792. Thomas and Christina did have a son Thomas born circa 1795, but I have no further information on him. Perhaps someone else does. Sally Michelle McMurray de Luces wrote: > > Hi Don, > > That is quite a story! Thank you for taking the time to help others with > your knowledge. > > I am wondering if the Thomas (brother of John)you mentioned is the Thomas I > am looking for. The only info I have is Thomas E. T.? McMurray having lived > in Kentucky or Illinois. He married a woman named "Mary." I have no date > of births for these folks. I know that my Thomas was probably born around > the late 1700's. Your Thomas may be too old to be the same guy. Tom & Mary > bore a son named Huston (Houston?)Gillespie McMurray around 1825. > > It makes me wonder how in the world I'm going to find out since no one kept > any records that are still with us. > > Michelle McMurray > > -----Original Message----- > From: Don McMurray [mailto:don@norrishouse.com] > Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 9:29 AM > To: MCMURRY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: RE: [McMurry] McMurry family book > > Hi Carol, sorry for the delay in this reply. Your asking for a ton of > information. I've been working on our huge McMurray family since 1989 and > only in the last five years have I cooled off doing research. Something > about being an innkeeper has this kind of effect on doing genealogy. If you > will indulge me, I'll concentrate on the McMurray men in Tenn. to allow for > a shorter memo. We can go on from there once you connect to the family. I > can provide the proofs of the information listed below as needed. > > Let me give you what I know and what I can prove about my McMurray family > members who went to N.C. in 1780. And please allow me to continue to > provide the information to you through this forum, it eliminates duplication > and spreads the info over a larger group. I can document the move in 1780 > by Samuel & William McMurray from Botetourt Co., Va. to N.C. (now Davidson > Co., Tenn.). What I can't do for you is go much beyond that time and I'll > explain this later. Now for the history on how Samuel and William arrived > in N.C. > > As indicated in previous messages, in 1775 three McMurray cousins, John, son > of William (son of William the Elder), and Samuel, son of Samuel (son of > William the Elder) and William, son of one of the two fathers mentioned, > made a trek to Ky. The three men claimed land in 1775-6 on the Rolling fork > of the Salt River and then probably returned home to Va. in the spring or > summer of 1776. These land claims are documented in a law suit that > occurred when land-grabbers made duplicate claims on the McMurrays' (and > many others') claims. The suit was settled in the McMurrays' favor under > the auspices of a Virginia Land Commission. > > The above three McMurray cousins made another trek in 1780, this time > accompanied by Thomas, brother of John. The four men served in the N.C. > militia and were rewarded with land grants on the Cumberland River in what > is now Davidson Co., Tenn. John & Thomas sold their grants and eventually > settled and lived out their lives in Ky. Samuel and William decided to stay > in N.C. (now Tenn.), sold their claims on the Rolling fork in Ky., and began > their efforts to settle on their farms on the Cumberland. > > Unfortunately, both Samuel and William were killed by Indians. William in > the fall of 1782, before he could start a family. Samuel was also killed on > his farm in 1792 (his will was probated in Clark Co. Ky.). In this case, > Samuel married a Sarah (Sallie) Kincaid in 1785 and had three sons, William > (1786), John (1786 or 1787), and Samuel (after 1786, before 1793). These > three sons are the ancestors of the southern branch of our McMurray family. > Sallie later had a fourth son, Simpson (1796). She and the children lived > with her father in Clark Co., Ky. until the boys were old enough to return > their farm in Davidson Co., Tenn. > > Regards, Don > > -----Original Message----- > From: Patricia Davis [mailto:pgdavis47@hotmail.com] > Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 11:48 PM > To: MCMURRY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [McMurry] McMurry family book > > My McMurry family were from east Tennessee.I have some named John and some > named James in my family, and I remember something about NC. > > >From: CRoy1238@aol.com > >Reply-To: MCMURRY-L@rootsweb.com > >To: MCMURRY-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: Re: [McMurry] McMurry family book > >Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 11:31:56 EDT > > > >I am most interested in this family info. You can email me direct at > >Croy1238@aol.com I am most interested in the Samuel McMurry. I think i > >desc. from the one that died in Rutherford Co NC after comming from Va and > >going i think into Tn then back to NC. I beleive his son James McMurry and > >maybe other brothers went into East Tennessee before 1800 as James first > >shows up as James McMurry in the early records and his name later becomes > >James Murry, then James Murray. I do not have enough proof to prove this > >but > >this is my throry. I would love to know the early history and i will share > >what ever i have on this family. Thanks, Carol > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > http://www.hotmail.com

Thank you Sally! I hope someone else does have more on the Thomas from 1795... :-) Michelle -----Original Message----- From: Sarah Barker [mailto:Sarahbarker@sprintmail.com] Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 10:58 AM To: MCMURRY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [McMurry] McMurry family book Michelle, The Thomas who Don referred to settled in Lincoln County, Kentucky, where he married 1. Catherine "Kitty" Robinson in 1784, and 2. Christina Dice Hisner in 1792. Thomas and Christina did have a son Thomas born circa 1795, but I have no further information on him. Perhaps someone else does. Sally Michelle McMurray de Luces wrote: > > Hi Don, > > That is quite a story! Thank you for taking the time to help others with > your knowledge. > > I am wondering if the Thomas (brother of John)you mentioned is the Thomas I > am looking for. The only info I have is Thomas E. T.? McMurray having lived > in Kentucky or Illinois. He married a woman named "Mary." I have no date > of births for these folks. I know that my Thomas was probably born around > the late 1700's. Your Thomas may be too old to be the same guy. Tom & Mary > bore a son named Huston (Houston?)Gillespie McMurray around 1825. > > It makes me wonder how in the world I'm going to find out since no one kept > any records that are still with us. > > Michelle McMurray > > -----Original Message----- > From: Don McMurray [mailto:don@norrishouse.com] > Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 9:29 AM > To: MCMURRY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: RE: [McMurry] McMurry family book > > Hi Carol, sorry for the delay in this reply. Your asking for a ton of > information. I've been working on our huge McMurray family since 1989 and > only in the last five years have I cooled off doing research. Something > about being an innkeeper has this kind of effect on doing genealogy. If you > will indulge me, I'll concentrate on the McMurray men in Tenn. to allow for > a shorter memo. We can go on from there once you connect to the family. I > can provide the proofs of the information listed below as needed. > > Let me give you what I know and what I can prove about my McMurray family > members who went to N.C. in 1780. And please allow me to continue to > provide the information to you through this forum, it eliminates duplication > and spreads the info over a larger group. I can document the move in 1780 > by Samuel & William McMurray from Botetourt Co., Va. to N.C. (now Davidson > Co., Tenn.). What I can't do for you is go much beyond that time and I'll > explain this later. Now for the history on how Samuel and William arrived > in N.C. > > As indicated in previous messages, in 1775 three McMurray cousins, John, son > of William (son of William the Elder), and Samuel, son of Samuel (son of > William the Elder) and William, son of one of the two fathers mentioned, > made a trek to Ky. The three men claimed land in 1775-6 on the Rolling fork > of the Salt River and then probably returned home to Va. in the spring or > summer of 1776. These land claims are documented in a law suit that > occurred when land-grabbers made duplicate claims on the McMurrays' (and > many others') claims. The suit was settled in the McMurrays' favor under > the auspices of a Virginia Land Commission. > > The above three McMurray cousins made another trek in 1780, this time > accompanied by Thomas, brother of John. The four men served in the N.C. > militia and were rewarded with land grants on the Cumberland River in what > is now Davidson Co., Tenn. John & Thomas sold their grants and eventually > settled and lived out their lives in Ky. Samuel and William decided to stay > in N.C. (now Tenn.), sold their claims on the Rolling fork in Ky., and began > their efforts to settle on their farms on the Cumberland. > > Unfortunately, both Samuel and William were killed by Indians. William in > the fall of 1782, before he could start a family. Samuel was also killed on > his farm in 1792 (his will was probated in Clark Co. Ky.). In this case, > Samuel married a Sarah (Sallie) Kincaid in 1785 and had three sons, William > (1786), John (1786 or 1787), and Samuel (after 1786, before 1793). These > three sons are the ancestors of the southern branch of our McMurray family. > Sallie later had a fourth son, Simpson (1796). She and the children lived > with her father in Clark Co., Ky. until the boys were old enough to return > their farm in Davidson Co., Tenn. > > Regards, Don > > -----Original Message----- > From: Patricia Davis [mailto:pgdavis47@hotmail.com] > Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 11:48 PM > To: MCMURRY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [McMurry] McMurry family book > > My McMurry family were from east Tennessee.I have some named John and some > named James in my family, and I remember something about NC. > > >From: CRoy1238@aol.com > >Reply-To: MCMURRY-L@rootsweb.com > >To: MCMURRY-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: Re: [McMurry] McMurry family book > >Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 11:31:56 EDT > > > >I am most interested in this family info. You can email me direct at > >Croy1238@aol.com I am most interested in the Samuel McMurry. I think i > >desc. from the one that died in Rutherford Co NC after comming from Va and > >going i think into Tn then back to NC. I beleive his son James McMurry and > >maybe other brothers went into East Tennessee before 1800 as James first > >shows up as James McMurry in the early records and his name later becomes > >James Murry, then James Murray. I do not have enough proof to prove this > >but > >this is my throry. I would love to know the early history and i will share > >what ever i have on this family. Thanks, Carol > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > http://www.hotmail.com

Hi Don, That is quite a story! Thank you for taking the time to help others with your knowledge. I am wondering if the Thomas (brother of John)you mentioned is the Thomas I am looking for. The only info I have is Thomas E. T.? McMurray having lived in Kentucky or Illinois. He married a woman named "Mary." I have no date of births for these folks. I know that my Thomas was probably born around the late 1700's. Your Thomas may be too old to be the same guy. Tom & Mary bore a son named Huston (Houston?)Gillespie McMurray around 1825. It makes me wonder how in the world I'm going to find out since no one kept any records that are still with us. Michelle McMurray -----Original Message----- From: Don McMurray [mailto:don@norrishouse.com] Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 9:29 AM To: MCMURRY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [McMurry] McMurry family book Hi Carol, sorry for the delay in this reply. Your asking for a ton of information. I've been working on our huge McMurray family since 1989 and only in the last five years have I cooled off doing research. Something about being an innkeeper has this kind of effect on doing genealogy. If you will indulge me, I'll concentrate on the McMurray men in Tenn. to allow for a shorter memo. We can go on from there once you connect to the family. I can provide the proofs of the information listed below as needed. Let me give you what I know and what I can prove about my McMurray family members who went to N.C. in 1780. And please allow me to continue to provide the information to you through this forum, it eliminates duplication and spreads the info over a larger group. I can document the move in 1780 by Samuel & William McMurray from Botetourt Co., Va. to N.C. (now Davidson Co., Tenn.). What I can't do for you is go much beyond that time and I'll explain this later. Now for the history on how Samuel and William arrived in N.C. As indicated in previous messages, in 1775 three McMurray cousins, John, son of William (son of William the Elder), and Samuel, son of Samuel (son of William the Elder) and William, son of one of the two fathers mentioned, made a trek to Ky. The three men claimed land in 1775-6 on the Rolling fork of the Salt River and then probably returned home to Va. in the spring or summer of 1776. These land claims are documented in a law suit that occurred when land-grabbers made duplicate claims on the McMurrays' (and many others') claims. The suit was settled in the McMurrays' favor under the auspices of a Virginia Land Commission. The above three McMurray cousins made another trek in 1780, this time accompanied by Thomas, brother of John. The four men served in the N.C. militia and were rewarded with land grants on the Cumberland River in what is now Davidson Co., Tenn. John & Thomas sold their grants and eventually settled and lived out their lives in Ky. Samuel and William decided to stay in N.C. (now Tenn.), sold their claims on the Rolling fork in Ky., and began their efforts to settle on their farms on the Cumberland. Unfortunately, both Samuel and William were killed by Indians. William in the fall of 1782, before he could start a family. Samuel was also killed on his farm in 1792 (his will was probated in Clark Co. Ky.). In this case, Samuel married a Sarah (Sallie) Kincaid in 1785 and had three sons, William (1786), John (1786 or 1787), and Samuel (after 1786, before 1793). These three sons are the ancestors of the southern branch of our McMurray family. Sallie later had a fourth son, Simpson (1796). She and the children lived with her father in Clark Co., Ky. until the boys were old enough to return their farm in Davidson Co., Tenn. Regards, Don -----Original Message----- From: Patricia Davis [mailto:pgdavis47@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 11:48 PM To: MCMURRY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [McMurry] McMurry family book My McMurry family were from east Tennessee.I have some named John and some named James in my family, and I remember something about NC. >From: CRoy1238@aol.com >Reply-To: MCMURRY-L@rootsweb.com >To: MCMURRY-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [McMurry] McMurry family book >Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 11:31:56 EDT > >I am most interested in this family info. You can email me direct at >Croy1238@aol.com I am most interested in the Samuel McMurry. I think i >desc. from the one that died in Rutherford Co NC after comming from Va and >going i think into Tn then back to NC. I beleive his son James McMurry and >maybe other brothers went into East Tennessee before 1800 as James first >shows up as James McMurry in the early records and his name later becomes >James Murry, then James Murray. I do not have enough proof to prove this >but >this is my throry. I would love to know the early history and i will share >what ever i have on this family. Thanks, Carol > _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com

Hi Carol, sorry for the delay in this reply. Your asking for a ton of information. I've been working on our huge McMurray family since 1989 and only in the last five years have I cooled off doing research. Something about being an innkeeper has this kind of effect on doing genealogy. If you will indulge me, I'll concentrate on the McMurray men in Tenn. to allow for a shorter memo. We can go on from there once you connect to the family. I can provide the proofs of the information listed below as needed. Let me give you what I know and what I can prove about my McMurray family members who went to N.C. in 1780. And please allow me to continue to provide the information to you through this forum, it eliminates duplication and spreads the info over a larger group. I can document the move in 1780 by Samuel & William McMurray from Botetourt Co., Va. to N.C. (now Davidson Co., Tenn.). What I can't do for you is go much beyond that time and I'll explain this later. Now for the history on how Samuel and William arrived in N.C. As indicated in previous messages, in 1775 three McMurray cousins, John, son of William (son of William the Elder), and Samuel, son of Samuel (son of William the Elder) and William, son of one of the two fathers mentioned, made a trek to Ky. The three men claimed land in 1775-6 on the Rolling fork of the Salt River and then probably returned home to Va. in the spring or summer of 1776. These land claims are documented in a law suit that occurred when land-grabbers made duplicate claims on the McMurrays' (and many others') claims. The suit was settled in the McMurrays' favor under the auspices of a Virginia Land Commission. The above three McMurray cousins made another trek in 1780, this time accompanied by Thomas, brother of John. The four men served in the N.C. militia and were rewarded with land grants on the Cumberland River in what is now Davidson Co., Tenn. John & Thomas sold their grants and eventually settled and lived out their lives in Ky. Samuel and William decided to stay in N.C. (now Tenn.), sold their claims on the Rolling fork in Ky., and began their efforts to settle on their farms on the Cumberland. Unfortunately, both Samuel and William were killed by Indians. William in the fall of 1782, before he could start a family. Samuel was also killed on his farm in 1792 (his will was probated in Clark Co. Ky.). In this case, Samuel married a Sarah (Sallie) Kincaid in 1785 and had three sons, William (1786), John (1786 or 1787), and Samuel (after 1786, before 1793). These three sons are the ancestors of the southern branch of our McMurray family. Sallie later had a fourth son, Simpson (1796). She and the children lived with her father in Clark Co., Ky. until the boys were old enough to return their farm in Davidson Co., Tenn. Regards, Don -----Original Message----- From: Patricia Davis [mailto:pgdavis47@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 11:48 PM To: MCMURRY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [McMurry] McMurry family book My McMurry family were from east Tennessee.I have some named John and some named James in my family, and I remember something about NC. >From: CRoy1238@aol.com >Reply-To: MCMURRY-L@rootsweb.com >To: MCMURRY-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [McMurry] McMurry family book >Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 11:31:56 EDT > >I am most interested in this family info. You can email me direct at >Croy1238@aol.com I am most interested in the Samuel McMurry. I think i >desc. from the one that died in Rutherford Co NC after comming from Va and >going i think into Tn then back to NC. I beleive his son James McMurry and >maybe other brothers went into East Tennessee before 1800 as James first >shows up as James McMurry in the early records and his name later becomes >James Murry, then James Murray. I do not have enough proof to prove this >but >this is my throry. I would love to know the early history and i will share >what ever i have on this family. Thanks, Carol > _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com

Good Morning Everyone -- All of this talk about TN made me want to repost what little I know of my McMURRY line. My GGgrandparents were Frank McMURRY (b ca 1840) and Annetta (or Amanda) PITT. [These according to the book, "A Family Called Fort".] Their dau [my Ggrandmother] was Gillie McMURRY (21 or 23 Nov 1866 Robertson Co, TN - 13 May 1914 Springfield, Robertson Co, TN). She m/John Thompson BRIDGES (1866-1949). A direct descendant of Eli McMURRY has told me that Eli was a brother to 'my' Frank McMURRY. I'd appreciate any information that anyone here might have on this line (including, but not limited to, any URL's with family lines). Thanks! I will get to primary documentation on this line someday. <grin> Leslie Bridges Kohler - List Administrator P.O. Box 8137, Glendale, AZ 85312-8137 P.O. Box 276, Carrollton, MO 64633-0276

Laird McMurry and Caroline Kilpatrick out of Thos (VA) desc. NC, Ben Callahan's info.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/0E0.2ACEB/74.1.1.2 Message Board Post: Thanks for checking anyway. I have a feeling she may have been related to Laird McMurry and M. Caroline Kilpatrick, if you happen to see a listing for them.

Sorry, the McMurrays were likely in Pa. in the early 1700's before they went to Va. This was typical for the Ulster Scots of the day. Gov. William Penn encouraged and offered the Scots the chance to farm on the western part of the state without owning the land. This helped in two ways, the Scots acted as a buffer against hostile Indians for the populated communities in the eastern part of Penn. And it gave the newcomers time to get acclimated or to buy land in Va. before heading out. The location where the were living positioned the Scots at the foot of the Shenandoah Valley of Va. where they could cross the river and head up the Great Indian Warpath toward N.C. Don -----Original Message----- From: Margie [mailto:margie@paonline.com] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 9:04 PM To: MCMURRY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [McMurry] McMurry family book Don, Do you have anything about any of these people going to PA? There is a Fletcher McMurray in my family. Margie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don McMurray" <don@norrishouse.com> To: <MCMURRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 11:15 AM Subject: RE: [McMurry] McMurry family book > Marilyn Bone sold me the last copy she had of "McMurry Family" and you are > right about discrepancies and errors in the book. Unfortunately, very > little documentation is included but the book is a good compilation of the > early research by Earnest I. Lewis and W. Fletcher Guy McMurry. I have a > lot of documentation now on the earliest McMurray men and their wives. > Including, surprisingly, proof that the William McMurry in the book was > actually William McMurray, the son of an older William McMurray. The older > William lived with two his sons, Samuel and William, up on the Cowpasture > River near Iron Gate east of Clifton Forge, Va. The other three sons were > down on the floor of the valley. > > The family history supplied by Lewis & W.F.G. McMurray tells the story of > William bringing his wife and five sons from Ulster to America prior to 1749 > when we find the family scattered in the Shenandoah Valley (Augusta Co.) of > Virginia. The family history is correct but off by a generation. If anyone > is interested in the family from 1749 on let me know. > > Regards, Don McMurray > > Shannon, Pam & Don McMurray > The Norris House Inn & Stone House Tea Room (www.norrishouse.com) > Thomas Birkby House - A Meeting Place (www.birkbyhouse.com) > 108-9 Loudoun St., SW, Leesburg, VA 20175 > Tel. NHI: 703.777.1806 E-mail: don@norrishouse.com > Tel. TBH: 703.779.2933 E-mail: info@birkbyhouse.com > Fax: 703.771.8051 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: nfn01995@naples.net [mailto:nfn01995@naples.net] > Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 10:34 AM > To: MCMURRY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [McMurry] McMurry family book > > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/0E0.2ACEB/36.43 > > Message Board Post: > > The book is "McMurry Family; Descendants of William and Mary McMurry, > 1750-1986," edited by Marilyn A. Bone, originally published in 1987 by > Gateway Press. It's been out of print for years. I don't have a copy > either, so please don't ask me for lookups! > > I have seen parts of it, though, and it was a very worthy effort. > Unfortunately much of the material was compiled at a time when research was > much harder to do and resources not as widely available as they are now, so > some of the information, particularly about the very earliest generation, is > inaccurate. > > ______________________________ > > >

Hi Anne, sorry, there is no mention of a William McMurray of Georgia in the book, "McMurry Family." There is no mention of McMurray men in the early period, 1749 to 1780, other than those in Va. It's possible that you William is related because some cousins in 1758 left Va. for N.C. One of them was John McMurray who, I'm told, shortly after arriving in N.C. (Anson Co.) went to Georgia to live. I know very little about him other than the date he left Va. with the other McMurray men. William McMurray, our ancestor, has one page in the book with very little information. My research documents that he served in Morgan's Riflemen under Col. Daniel Morgan. As a result, William was all over the place scaring the pants off the Brits. Morgan's Riflemen were crack shots with a long rifle and responsible for the death of many soldiers, especially the officers, wherever they encountered the enemy. Just the thought that the riflemen could be in the vicinity caused panic in the British ranks. William was at the surrender of Gen. Burgoyne, the first British general to surrender to the Americans. Regards, Don -----Original Message----- From: anne bruce [mailto:abruce@televar.com] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 3:15 PM To: MCMURRY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [McMurry] McMurry family book Don, is the William McMurray , Revolutionary veteran, of Georgia, mentioned anywhere in the book? I still can't get back to which Murry/Murray, Murrey, and the Mc/Mac variations on the name! Best wishes, Anne Bruce ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don McMurray" <don@norrishouse.com> To: <MCMURRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 8:15 AM Subject: RE: [McMurry] McMurry family book > Marilyn Bone sold me the last copy she had of "McMurry Family" and you are > right about discrepancies and errors in the book. Unfortunately, very > little documentation is included but the book is a good compilation of the > early research by Earnest I. Lewis and W. Fletcher Guy McMurry. I have a > lot of documentation now on the earliest McMurray men and their wives. > Including, surprisingly, proof that the William McMurry in the book was > actually William McMurray, the son of an older William McMurray. The older > William lived with two his sons, Samuel and William, up on the Cowpasture > River near Iron Gate east of Clifton Forge, Va. The other three sons were > down on the floor of the valley. > > The family history supplied by Lewis & W.F.G. McMurray tells the story of > William bringing his wife and five sons from Ulster to America prior to 1749 > when we find the family scattered in the Shenandoah Valley (Augusta Co.) of > Virginia. The family history is correct but off by a generation. If anyone > is interested in the family from 1749 on let me know. > > Regards, Don McMurray > > Shannon, Pam & Don McMurray > The Norris House Inn & Stone House Tea Room (www.norrishouse.com) > Thomas Birkby House - A Meeting Place (www.birkbyhouse.com) > 108-9 Loudoun St., SW, Leesburg, VA 20175 > Tel. NHI: 703.777.1806 E-mail: don@norrishouse.com > Tel. TBH: 703.779.2933 E-mail: info@birkbyhouse.com > Fax: 703.771.8051 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: nfn01995@naples.net [mailto:nfn01995@naples.net] > Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 10:34 AM > To: MCMURRY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [McMurry] McMurry family book > > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/0E0.2ACEB/36.43 > > Message Board Post: > > The book is "McMurry Family; Descendants of William and Mary McMurry, > 1750-1986," edited by Marilyn A. Bone, originally published in 1987 by > Gateway Press. It's been out of print for years. I don't have a copy > either, so please don't ask me for lookups! > > I have seen parts of it, though, and it was a very worthy effort. > Unfortunately much of the material was compiled at a time when research was > much harder to do and resources not as widely available as they are now, so > some of the information, particularly about the very earliest generation, is > inaccurate. > > ______________________________ > > ______________________________

scpokrs@msn.com wrote: >This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > >Classification: Query > >Message Board URL: > >http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/0E0.2ACEB/77 > >Message Board Post: > >See my reply to Bobbi about this. > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/0E0.2ACEB/77 Message Board Post: See my reply to Bobbi about this.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/0E0.2ACEB/76 Message Board Post: Bobbi, I reviewed the index and there is no Melvin listed, however there is a Eugene listed b. 1881 d. 1894 doesn't appear as if this is any help. Ken

Ken, Where do these McMurrays tie in? Where did they come from? Lisa

Hi, My great-great grandfather was Melvin Eugene McMurr{a}y of Michigan. B. 1874 d. 1913. If this is the same one please contact me. bobbijo84@yahoo.com I would love to hear from you. --- margiebell@hotmail.com wrote: > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to > this mailing list. > > Surnames: mcmurry > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/0E0.2ACEB/74.1.1.1 > > Message Board Post: > > Ken,I been trying to find my grandfather Melvin > Eugene McMurry would you please look in your book to > see if he's there. > thank you so much > margie > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Games - play chess, backgammon, pool and more http://games.yahoo.com/