To Dove2000: Do you know the source of the "Ransom/Ranson" name? Just curious. Wilda McMurry

Martha McMurray/McMurry Ghant Born 1864 or 1865 South Carolina. Married William Ranson Ghant about 1886 or 1887 South Carolina They lived a long time in Lancaster Co., SC. before moving over to Blactstock, Chester Co. SC. Moleie parents were John McMurray and Jane Miller. Ransom & Moleie or Martha's children were: Sammie born Dec. 29, 1883 James Ghant forn Oct. 29, 1890 Emma Ghant Steen born Nov. 3, 1892 Sadie Bell Ghant Blackman born Nov. 2, 1894 Frances {Fannie} Ghant Dove born July 16, 1895 William Perry Ghant born May 31 1898 Della Lee Ghant Dove born Sept. 9, 1900 Dessie Ghant Shirley born Oct. 29, 1904 D. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tom & Sandra Stephens <twssls@flash.net> Reply-To: MCMURRY-L@rootsweb.com Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 13:52:27 -0600 To: MCMURRY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [McMurry] Roll Call Resent-From: MCMURRY-L@rootsweb.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 12:47:06 -0700 This is my line of McMurrys, starting with my great-grandmother and going back: Permelia Jane McMurry, b. 1833 Smith Co., TN, d. 1915 Grayson Co., TX, m. R.H. Rodgers James McMurry, b. 1798, Sumner Co., TN, d. 1868 Smith Co., TN, m. Emily Black Charles McMurry, b. abt 1767, prob Orange Co., NC, d. 1820 Smith Co., TN, m. Jannet Douglass Samuel McMurry, b.1740-1745, Scotland, d. 15 Mar 1802, Person Co., NC, m. Elizabeth Wilson Sandra Stephens

This is my line of McMurrys, starting with my great-grandmother and going back: Permelia Jane McMurry, b. 1833 Smith Co., TN, d. 1915 Grayson Co., TX, m. R.H. Rodgers James McMurry, b. 1798, Sumner Co., TN, d. 1868 Smith Co., TN, m. Emily Black Charles McMurry, b. abt 1767, prob Orange Co., NC, d. 1820 Smith Co., TN, m. Jannet Douglass Samuel McMurry, b.1740-1745, Scotland, d. 15 Mar 1802, Person Co., NC, m. Elizabeth Wilson Sandra Stephens

Good Morning, Y'all must be as busy as I, but let's take the time to post (or re-post) our lines and/or queries. We are always getting new members, so one never knows when a new post will generate some new leads. Leslie (Bridges) Kohler

Thanks for warning us Leslie.

on 2/27/03 10:03 PM, L & G Kohler at Aug67@att.net wrote: ============================================================================ Thank you. I almost bit yesterday, but when they asked for a credit card for something they advertized as free, I deleted. ============================================================================ > > I have been asked by Rootsweb people to warn you that > the old genealogy scam is back. www.genseekers.com > > Behind the password protection are links to the free > genealogy on-line. There is no content of their own. > > In order to get the "5-day free trial" you have to > surrender a credit card or bank account number. You > have to cancel within 5 days or you get dinged. Guess > what? The cancellation e-mail bounces!! > > Leslie (Bridges) Kohler > > >

I have been asked by Rootsweb people to warn you that the old genealogy scam is back. www.genseekers.com Behind the password protection are links to the free genealogy on-line. There is no content of their own. In order to get the "5-day free trial" you have to surrender a credit card or bank account number. You have to cancel within 5 days or you get dinged. Guess what? The cancellation e-mail bounces!! Leslie (Bridges) Kohler

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: McMurry McMurray Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/0E0.2ACEB/86 Message Board Post: Looking for information on Rose Ann Mcmurray. She was my great grandmother. All of the info I have on her came from my grandmothers SS application. It shows in 1937 that she lived in San Patricio, San Patricio County, Texas. She was married to Christopher Nolan and had one child that I know of, Josephine Nolan in 1917. Any info would be helpful.

Leslie, The one that I was talking about is in Decatur Couty,Tn.in the McMurry Cemetary and it could still be some of the same family but I dont know.It seems that years ago alot of people had the same names in the same family.I think I may have talked to you before because your name sounds familar. Patty Davis >From: "Leslie B. Kohler" <Aug67@att.net> >Reply-To: MCMURRY-L@rootsweb.com >To: MCMURRY-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [McMurry] Gillie McMurry >Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 18:04:12 -0700 > >Dear Patty (etal), > >I am very sorry that I somehow missed your message. >In the book, "Robertson County, Tennessee Obit >and Death Records", my Gille is shown as being >buried in Elmwood Cemetry in Robertson County, >TN. > >Leslie (Bridges) Kohler > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Patricia Davis" <pgdavis47@hotmail.com> >To: <MCMURRY-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 5:14 AM >Subject: Re: [McMurry] McMurry Family: Descendants of William and Mary >McMurry, 1750-1986 > > > > Leslie, > > I saw your post and thought I would answer,My grandfather had an >aunt > > that was named Gilley and the dates would be about the same,if it is the > > same one where is she buried?The one I am thinking of is buried in >Parsons > > Tn.I am trying to find out about my grandfathers family and dont know >much > > since everyone is about gone now.Im hoping this is the same family and >maybe > > you can help me.Do you know any more names of the family members? > > My email is PGDavis47@hotmail.com > > Patty Davis >------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > >From: "Leslie B. Kohler" <Aug67@att.net> > > >Reply-To: MCMURRY-L@rootsweb.com > > >To: MCMURRY-L@rootsweb.com > > >Subject: [McMurry] McMurry Family: Descendants of William and Mary >McMurry, > > >1750-1986 > > >Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 08:38:12 -0700 > > > > > >Good Morning, > > > > > >Last year Rosemary mentioned having a copy of this book. > > >First, I'd like to know the name of the author. > > > > > >Then, I'd be interested to know if this particular book tells > > >anything of my Ggrandmother, Gillie McMURRY (1866-1914) > > >and her sister, Florence McMURRY, who are said to have > > >been children of Frank McMURRY and Annetta PITT, by my > > >copy of the book, "A Family Called Fort". > > > > > >Leslie _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

Dear Patty (etal), I am very sorry that I somehow missed your message. In the book, "Robertson County, Tennessee Obit and Death Records", my Gille is shown as being buried in Elmwood Cemetry in Robertson County, TN. Leslie (Bridges) Kohler ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patricia Davis" <pgdavis47@hotmail.com> To: <MCMURRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 5:14 AM Subject: Re: [McMurry] McMurry Family: Descendants of William and Mary McMurry, 1750-1986 > Leslie, > I saw your post and thought I would answer,My grandfather had an aunt > that was named Gilley and the dates would be about the same,if it is the > same one where is she buried?The one I am thinking of is buried in Parsons > Tn.I am trying to find out about my grandfathers family and dont know much > since everyone is about gone now.Im hoping this is the same family and maybe > you can help me.Do you know any more names of the family members? > My email is PGDavis47@hotmail.com > Patty Davis ------------------------------------------------------------ > > >From: "Leslie B. Kohler" <Aug67@att.net> > >Reply-To: MCMURRY-L@rootsweb.com > >To: MCMURRY-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: [McMurry] McMurry Family: Descendants of William and Mary McMurry, > >1750-1986 > >Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 08:38:12 -0700 > > > >Good Morning, > > > >Last year Rosemary mentioned having a copy of this book. > >First, I'd like to know the name of the author. > > > >Then, I'd be interested to know if this particular book tells > >anything of my Ggrandmother, Gillie McMURRY (1866-1914) > >and her sister, Florence McMURRY, who are said to have > >been children of Frank McMURRY and Annetta PITT, by my > >copy of the book, "A Family Called Fort". > > > >Leslie

Good Morning, The post below came to one of the subscribe/unsubscribe addresses. So, I am forwarding it to both the McMurry and McMurray lists. Leslie - List Administrator ----- Original Message ----- From: . Am searching for the William McMurray, b 1774, came to Pennsylvania. Wife's name Ann McAdams B. 1776. Has anyone heard of this couple? Thank you Ann from Idaho

Thank you so much for sending this link. It is valuable to my other lines. Thanks. -----Original Message----- From: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com [mailto:gc-gateway@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of m1lm1@worldnet.att.net Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 10:35 PM To: MCMURRY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [McMurry] Re: John McMurr(a)y married Margaret Ewing - Parents from Bann Valley? This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: McMurry, McMurray Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/0E0.2ACEB/68.1.1.1 Message Board Post: I wonder if John McMurray's parents came from the Bann Valley in Ulster? Evidentally lots of McMurrays lived there. I also wonder if Governor Shute mentioned below had any connection. This is an interesting link - http://www.4qd.org/bann/books/Kilrea02.html Here is an excerpt: We have mentioned these disabilities merely to account for the readiness with which the people embarked for the freer atmosphere of the New World. It is with a kind of relief that one concludes the perusal of the Aghadowey Book for the period, 1700-1718. The latter year forms a landmark in Ulster history. Then began that stream of emigration which extended through almost the whole century, and the valley of the Bann has the distinction of being the pioneer district in this fateful work. High rents, exaction of tithes, and religious persecution did their work; and masters of vessels returning from America gave great accounts of the advantages gained and progress made by those who had already ventured into New England. One Captain Robert Holmes, son of an Irish Presbyterian minister, had special advantages on account of his intimacy with the northern counties then to place the prospects of emigration in the best light, and by seeming to open up brighter visions in the far-off ! land he was at the same time opening up a new and 23 profitable trade or ships sailing the Atlantic. The result was the inhabitants of the Bann valley and the neighbouring ministers sent over the Rev. Wm. Boyd, of Macosquin, as their agent to petition Governor Shute for facilities for the settlement of colonies of Ulster Scots. The petition itself is still preserved, with the signatures - names such as are still found in the counties Derry and Antrim. In the summer and autumn of 1718 five ships landed at Boston, the first organised transportation of Scotch-Irish. They were mostly from the ports of Coleraine and Londonderry, and bore such names as the "William and Mary," the "Three Anns and Mary." These vessels have as much significance for the Scotch-Irish as the earlier "Mayflower" and "Speedwell" for the descendants of the Pilgrim Fathers. Some of these were not rich in worldly substance, while others were people of some estate who had paid their passage-money in coin of the realm. Others sold their services for some years to masters, who advanced the price of the passage! . Cotton Mather, the New England divine who gave these people encouragement, said - "The people who are upon this transportation are of such principles, and so laudable for their sobriety, their honesty, their industry, that we cannot but embrace you with a most fervent charity, and cherish hopes of noble settlements to be quickly made."

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: McMurry, McMurray Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/0E0.2ACEB/68.1.1.1 Message Board Post: I wonder if John McMurray's parents came from the Bann Valley in Ulster? Evidentally lots of McMurrays lived there. I also wonder if Governor Shute mentioned below had any connection. This is an interesting link - http://www.4qd.org/bann/books/Kilrea02.html Here is an excerpt: We have mentioned these disabilities merely to account for the readiness with which the people embarked for the freer atmosphere of the New World. It is with a kind of relief that one concludes the perusal of the Aghadowey Book for the period, 1700-1718. The latter year forms a landmark in Ulster history. Then began that stream of emigration which extended through almost the whole century, and the valley of the Bann has the distinction of being the pioneer district in this fateful work. High rents, exaction of tithes, and religious persecution did their work; and masters of vessels returning from America gave great accounts of the advantages gained and progress made by those who had already ventured into New England. One Captain Robert Holmes, son of an Irish Presbyterian minister, had special advantages on account of his intimacy with the northern counties then to place the prospects of emigration in the best light, and by seeming to open up brighter visions in the far-off ! land he was at the same time opening up a new and 23 profitable trade or ships sailing the Atlantic. The result was the inhabitants of the Bann valley and the neighbouring ministers sent over the Rev. Wm. Boyd, of Macosquin, as their agent to petition Governor Shute for facilities for the settlement of colonies of Ulster Scots. The petition itself is still preserved, with the signatures - names such as are still found in the counties Derry and Antrim. In the summer and autumn of 1718 five ships landed at Boston, the first organised transportation of Scotch-Irish. They were mostly from the ports of Coleraine and Londonderry, and bore such names as the "William and Mary," the "Three Anns and Mary." These vessels have as much significance for the Scotch-Irish as the earlier "Mayflower" and "Speedwell" for the descendants of the Pilgrim Fathers. Some of these were not rich in worldly substance, while others were people of some estate who had paid their passage-money in coin of the realm. Others sold their services for some years to masters, who advanced the price of the passage! . Cotton Mather, the New England divine who gave these people encouragement, said - "The people who are upon this transportation are of such principles, and so laudable for their sobriety, their honesty, their industry, that we cannot but embrace you with a most fervent charity, and cherish hopes of noble settlements to be quickly made."

Off Topic Post... If you pray, please pray with me for the families of the astronauts whose earthly lives ended today when the spaceshuttle exploded. God bless them all. And, God bless the United States! Leslie Kohler - List Mom

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: McMurray, McCroskey, Bogle, Hodges, Gilbert, Richards, Householder Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/0E0.2ACEB/68.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi Molly, Unfortunately, we don't have anything further, either. (Nothing concrete, anyway.) However, if you'd like to trade/compare lines and tidbits of info, please contact me at mccroskeygens@aol.com Maybe if we get enough of us working on this line, we'll be able to figure out these elusive McMurrays. <grin> Don't know where you're located but we're not that far from Eusebia and get up thataway pretty often. We have some nice pictures of Samuel's gravestones if you'd like a copy. Look forward to hearing from you! Tracey Knoxville, TN

Leslie, I saw your post and thought I would answer,My grandfather had an aunt that was named Gilley and the dates would be about the same,if it is the same one where is she buried?The one I am thinking of is buried in Parsons Tn.I am trying to find out about my grandfathers family and dont know much since everyone is about gone now.Im hoping this is the same family and maybe you can help me.Do you know any more names of the family members? My email is PGDavis47@hotmail.com Patty Davis >From: "Leslie B. Kohler" <Aug67@att.net> >Reply-To: MCMURRY-L@rootsweb.com >To: MCMURRY-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [McMurry] McMurry Family: Descendants of William and Mary McMurry, >1750-1986 >Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 08:38:12 -0700 > >Good Morning, > >Last year Rosemary mentioned having a copy of this book. >First, I'd like to know the name of the author. > >Then, I'd be interested to know if this particular book tells >anything of my Ggrandmother, Gillie McMURRY (1866-1914) >and her sister, Florence McMURRY, who are said to have >been children of Frank McMURRY and Annetta PITT, by my >copy of the book, "A Family Called Fort". > >Leslie >of > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Rosemary Filyaw" <jfilyaw2009@charter.net> >To: <MCMURRY-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 7:33 PM >Subject: Re: [McMurry] Book on William and Mary McMurry from Ireland > > > > The book is out of print. I have a copy. If I can do a look-up, let me > > know. What is your line? > > Rosemary Birchfield Filyaw > > jfilyaw2009@charter.net _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail

In a message dated 1/16/2003 8:35:45 PM Central Standard Time, pgdavis47@hotmail.com writes: > > I am still searching for the parents and/or ancestry of William Logue > McMurray born April 1821 in Warren Co., TN. > > I saw your pose on rootsweb and thought I would reply. > I also have McMurrys in my family, and even Johns.My grandfather had a > brother and uncle named John McMurry that both lived in Tennessee.I dont > know if its the same family or not but feel like it probably is related.My > email is PGDavis47@hotmail.com Where in Tennessee is that church you were > talking about and what is the website? > Patricia Davis

The book was by Marilyn Bone. She actually compiled the information from several other people on their lines. I have been told that there are lots of mistakes in the book but I can't tell you what they are. I did not see anything on your Florence or Gillie McMurry. I may have missed something but with what I had to go on, I didn't find them. Perhaps someone else will have the information that your need. Just keep digging. ;-) Rosemary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leslie B. Kohler" <Aug67@att.net> To: <MCMURRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 9:38 AM Subject: [McMurry] McMurry Family: Descendants of William and Mary McMurry, 1750-1986 > Good Morning, > > Last year Rosemary mentioned having a copy of this book. > First, I'd like to know the name of the author. > > Then, I'd be interested to know if this particular book tells > anything of my Ggrandmother, Gillie McMURRY (1866-1914) > and her sister, Florence McMURRY, who are said to have > been children of Frank McMURRY and Annetta PITT, by my > copy of the book, "A Family Called Fort". > > Leslie > of > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rosemary Filyaw" <jfilyaw2009@charter.net> > To: <MCMURRY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 7:33 PM > Subject: Re: [McMurry] Book on William and Mary McMurry from Ireland > > > > The book is out of print. I have a copy. If I can do a look-up, let me > > know. What is your line? > > Rosemary Birchfield Filyaw > > jfilyaw2009@charter.net >

Good Morning, Last year Rosemary mentioned having a copy of this book. First, I'd like to know the name of the author. Then, I'd be interested to know if this particular book tells anything of my Ggrandmother, Gillie McMURRY (1866-1914) and her sister, Florence McMURRY, who are said to have been children of Frank McMURRY and Annetta PITT, by my copy of the book, "A Family Called Fort". Leslie of ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rosemary Filyaw" <jfilyaw2009@charter.net> To: <MCMURRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 7:33 PM Subject: Re: [McMurry] Book on William and Mary McMurry from Ireland > The book is out of print. I have a copy. If I can do a look-up, let me > know. What is your line? > Rosemary Birchfield Filyaw > jfilyaw2009@charter.net

Although it is posted in many places that the John McM of Guilford Co., NC, wife Margaret Ewing, is the father of Samuel of Blount Co., TN, do you have any proof? I have seen no proof, no documentation. If you look at the families which the known chn. of John of Guilford Co. married, and compare them to the families that the chn. of Samuel and Eleanor married, you find no overlap. They appear to be of different clans. The children of Samuel of Blount Co. m. families known to be from PA. The children of John of Guilford Co. m. into families from Augusta Co. etc., VA., those who had gone into NC from VA. John of Guilford Co. had an older son James, probably from an earlier marriage. It is possible that Samuel of Blount Co. was from this earlier marriage. But why no overlap? The chn. of James also m. families from Augusta Co. etc. VA. Although many of the early writings (written at least 100 years AFTER John was in Guilford Co.) say he came from PA (MD) w/the others of this colony, is there any documentation of that? There is some suggestion that John Guilford Co. arrived there ca. 1771. That is some time after the arrival of those from Rising Sun, PA/MD. And it would be more in line w/movement from the McM's who came to NC ca. 1758-70 and spread out over several counties, and who have yet to be totally untangled. John Guilford Co. did not mention a son Samuel in his will. All his chn. mentioned in his will were there in Guilford Co. It is possible he had older, unmentioned children, especially if you look at his son James' will: James left property only to those still underage and/or unmarried. It is possible John did the same, as they were not well off. But still, someone needs to document some reason why this John is supposed to be the father of Samuel, instead of being affiliated w/the descendants of Thomas and John who went to NC ca. 1758 and proliferated. The family affiliations are much more strongly like the latter. I am not, as best we can determine, descended from these branches, although if anyone has info on what happened to Nathaniel, son of James, son of John, we'd really appreciate knowing that. Wilda McMurry