Received this from another list - thought that it was really fascinating (and frightening) Is it any wonder that we spend so much time on genealogy? 1: Only 1 YOU 2: 2 parents 3: 4 grandparents 4: 8 great grandparents 5: 16 gg grandparents 6: 32 ggg grandparents 7: 64 gggg grandparents 8: 128 ggggg grandparents 9: 256 gggggg grandparents 10: 512 ggggggg grandparents 11: 1,024 gggggggg grandparents 12: 2,048 ggggggggg grandparents 13: 4,096 gggggggggg grandparents 14: 8,192 ggggggggggg grandparents 15: 16,184 gggggggggggg grandparents anyone have them all ? :)

I am looking for a Robert McIntire in Va. He has a son James McIntire b 1798 in Ky. Thank you. Lee Anderson

If you are really interested in what went on during the early census check out this site http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~haas/learningcenter/ and access census records. Here is a sample of some of the information that they offer: To make matters worse not every census taker used good quality ink or pens and to make the ink last longer many census takers added water. Many of the microfilmed census records available are also copies of the original census records. We'll talk more about that when I discuss the individual census year. From the 1790 Census through the 1820 Census the Census Takers were required to furnish their own paper, rule the paper to fit the format the government mandated and to bind the schedules themselves. Therefore not ever census schedule was made of high quality paper. Since census takers were paid by the number of names they recorded sometimes the cost and problems of taking the census far exceeded their payment. Here's an example: "Sir: I beg to report that I have been dogbit, goose-pecked, cowkicked, briar-sratched, shot at, and called every 'fowel' that can be tho't of. have worked 12 days and made $2. I have had enough and I beg to resign my position as a census taker for Crittenden Township." So wrote Roger Waite to a marshal of census enumerators for the State of Vermont on August 24, 1790-the year of the first national census in the United States. (2) And, last but not least by any means, is the handwriting and the spelling of the census takers. Keep in mind that the census taker recorded names as they SOUNDED. Since many of the people interviewed were illiterate they could not spell their names, even if they had been asked. Accuracy of the Information on the Census The accuracy of the census records must be taken with a grain of salt. Census takers were often school teachers who were unemployed during the summer or a farmer who wanted to supplement his income, in other words they were just regular people. Some were conscientious and took their job seriously while others were just out to put as many names down as possible to collect their pay (much like employees are today). Prior to the 1850 census each census taker was responsible for being sure that all names in a given area where recorded. And, they mapped out their own route. A census taker (called an enumerator) was to begin at a given point, maybe with his next door neighbor and go from house to house, farm to farm, one after the other asking his questions. But, if on a given day the census taker needed to pick up a pig at so & so's house he might well pick up the pig and then stop at the houses along the way to gather his census information. In towns a census taker might go up one road hitting every house on the right side and then down the left side or he might cross the street in a zig zag pattern. That's why it's so important to get several names before and after your own family. With the 1850 census the census taker was given a map and instructions on the order in which to take the census. By the 1850 census you can pretty well rely on the people listed to each other actually lived next to each other. In far flung counties a census taker covered a lot of ground to reach each household. If he reached a farm and no one was home who could responsibly answer the questions, the census taker would question children, servants, old people who's memory wasn't always reliable, neighbors or write down what he knew personally and guess at the rest or leave it blank. Thus the information on a given individual can vary from year to year according to the person who was furnishing the information. The census takers didn't consult any type of original records, all information was passed verbally and from memory. In families that had 10 or 12 or even more children, it wasn't unusual for one to be overlooked or for birth dates to get mixed up between children. When asked what year they immigrated people would say "oh about xxx" without consulting any paperwork. What they answered was what was written down. Many of the people interviewed were people who's native language wasn't English. Many didn't completely understand the questions asked and if they did answered in broken English or English heavily accented. The Census Taker wrote down what he heard which led to some really bizarre names being listed. Say your ancestor's name out loud and have someone else write it down (preferably someone who doesn't KNOW how to spell it) and see what spellings you come up with. For example: My Haas line is pronounced Hass and I almost never find them in the census records as Haas. And remember that the pronunciation of your ancestors name today might not be what it was "back then". An example: My father-in-law pronounced my mother-in-law's maiden name as "Ambers" although her name was actually Ambrose. Had I not heard him say the name I'd never in a million years checked the spelling Ambers. Some families are listed more than once in a census. Because of the time it took to complete some of the censuses, especially in rural areas, families often moved and ended up getting counted twice, not always with the same information. For the same reason some families were missed entirely. In some states census records were "padded" to up the population count so that an area could qualify for statehood. Watch for duplicate entries of a family with slightly different information or names left out or added. And the reverse was true, states that wanted to decrease their taxes often under reported on the census and whole areas are left out. Census takers were instructed to count the population on a given date, for example June 1st, and even if it was August before the count was actually made for a given family the information was to be accurate as of June 1st. If someone was alive on June 1st and deceased by the time the census taker got to the house that person would be listed as living. If a baby was born in July (for example) it would not be listed since it wasn't alive on June 1st. This can be extremely confusing and frustrating since most census schedules list the actual date the census information was written down. It has caused many family researcher untold hours of unnecessary research. In the following explanation of each census watch closely for the date the census was to be recorded as of. Along the same lines some of the later schedules that ask for a birth year will record a child as 2/12 meaning the child is two months old. Most researchers look at the date the information was recorded and quickly come up with a birth date - but remember the child would be 2 months old AT THE CENSUS ENUMERATION DATE - not the date the information was recorded.

As I have gathered some more info. since I first contacted this page,I trust that this latest version may generate the response of possible contacts sharing similar ties. I would hope to reciprocate as my own research progresses. ` Looking for the parents or siblings of Peter McEntyre and Mary A.Tierney,with the latter believed to have been born around 1858 and the former likely also. Peter was believed to have been from Relaghan,while Mary was from Derry.They were married in the Roman Catholic Chapel in Bailieboro,Co.Cavan on Apr.3,1880. On the marriage certificate Peter`s occupation was listed as farmer,as was that of his father Bernard. Mary`s father,a Patrick Thomas Tierney was also listed as a farmer. Mary was believed to have had at least one brother a Thomas Partick Tierney who married a Mary Anne Freeman in 1884.Mary Anne`s brothers were believed to be Peter,Patrick & Michael. Patrick Thomas Tierney was believed to have married a Helen O`Neil,while the maiden name of the wife of Bernard McEntyre is unknown. Peter & Mary McEntyre are beleved to have moved to Glasgow,Scotland sometime after their marriage,where my father John Alexander McIntyre,was born in April,1888. Peter & Mary had 2 other children,Bernard whose wife was believed to be Kate,and a sister Minnie who married a John Gallagher.At least the latter also settled in Glasgow .Respond to John at: renpromgmt@aol.com` Thank you for your consideration! John A.McIntyre

Hi, It has been quite some time since I've posted this group; however, I continue to enjoy reading the daily postings. I just wanted to let all the MCINTYRE researchers know that I have recently updated my McIntyre Family Page at http://www.hal-pc.org/~jdm/index.html . A few weeks ago I received a most welcome package, from one of my cousins, containing all the old family letters and documents that she had inherited. From this new source of information I've been able to make some major changes to my MCINTYRE family outline. I have added a few of the letters to my site and plan to add more, as soon as I get them transcribed. One letter, that I found entertaining, decribes the political situation after the Rutherford B. Hayes and Samuel J. Tilden election that so closely paralled our recent presidential election. It is dated 12 Feb 1877 and is posted on my site. I'm hoping that the updates will help MCINTYREs make a connection to my line. As has been repeated in the past, you can never have too many cousins. I wish you all the best of luck in your continued research. John Duncan McIntyre ------------------------------------------------ Visit My "McIntyre Family Page" at: http://www.hal-pc.org/~jdm/index.html Read Old Family Documents From The Mid 1700s. ------------------------------------------------

Hi everybody, RootsWeb has a great St. Patrick's Day site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~rwguide/notable/stpatrick.htm

Hi, If I remember correctly, someone wanted to know where the E/D #115 was in Delaware Co., PA, in the 1910 Census. It was in the City of Chester! :) Roll 1339--1910 Census Delaware Co., PA Enumeration Districts # 104 All of the following E/Ds are in the City of Chester 105 109 110 111 112 113 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 Chester Twp. 129 Clifton Heights Bor., Upper Darby Twp. 130 " 131 Collingdale Bor. 132 " 133 Concord Twp. 134 Darby Bor. End of Roll 1339 NOTE: I will get more E/D # for the 1910 Census from the next roll when I return to DCHS & I will post them! :) Happy hunting, Helen (DCGS)

Hi, I received this from Brenda on another mailing list: Enumeration instructions / Districts http://www.ipums.umn.edu/~pipums/voliii/tEnumInstr.html This site provides a census by census instruction given to the enumerator who performed the census enumeration for the census years 1850 to 1890. Has anyone ever found a site that explains which enumeration district goes with which section of which county in which state? I have found census copies by "enumeration district " number only and cannot figure out where the enumeration district is. Happy hunting, Helen (DCGS)

Hi, No way will I give samples of DNA to someone I don' know. How will they match it up? ...by digging someone up from the past! :>) Other things not to try: "Free Credit Check" on line. Would you give some one (unknown) who is standing at a bus-stop your Social Security Number? How about your credit card number . When I joined Ancestry.com, I mailed my check by USPS (Cert., Mail, w/return proof of Receipt & to who). Just a idea. Mike ************************************************ M F SMITH: Selling off my Stamp Collection! (1)"Genealogy" (2)"The 1950s" (3)"Opinions" (4)"My Best Pal" 1)"http://community.webtv.net/CmbtEngrVet/JUSTAVETERAN" 2)"http://community.webtv.net/DerDoodler/HARRYSGAHANNA" 3)"http://community.webtv.net/Airacorba/VETERANSOPINION" 4)"http://community.webtv.net/loisflys/MyPalMax"

Howdy All, This is only a little off topic so I apologize if I offend by sending this info on. I would like to invite any and all of you to join me on a special night in our About.com chat room. I usually host the Sunday night Canadian Genealogy Chats but with our special guest speaker I thought that maybe you would like to take advantage of listening and asking questions of our guest speaker. CHAT WITH SPECIAL GUEST CURT WITCHER, MLS, FUGA When: Wednesday, March 7, 2001 Time: 8 PM - 10PM EASTERN TIME Where: About Genealogy Chat Room #1 Sponsor: National Genealogical Society Learning Center Topic: Genealogy Research in the U.S. Census The NGS Learning Center is sponsoring a series of chats to allow people from around the world the opportunity to learn from and interact with expert genealogists. The second chat in this series will be held this Wednesday, March 7. Curt Witcher, the President of the National Genealogical Society and Director of the Historical Genealogy Department of the Allen County Public Library in Ft. Wayne, IN will be the featured speaker. He will speak for about 10 minutes and will then take questions from those in attendance. Be sure to check out this important info before the big event: http://genealogy.about.com/library/blwitcher.htm Hope to see you there and if you lose this link then just go to my page and click on the special announcement link and you will find all this info. Thanks for your consideration. Rikki Need to talk out your genealogy frustrations? Come and chat out your problems! http://genealogy.about.com/hobbies/genealogy/mpchat.htm 9:30 - 11:00 EST Mondays Tuesdays Wednesdays and Sundays! http://prosserhome.homestead.com Follow the PROSSER family in Pictures, from my 2great grandparents to me. listowner of: PROSSER-L@rootsweb.com mailing list GenConnect Boards: Prosser Surname Message Board http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/gc/surnames/p/r/PROSSER/queries Larrabee Surname Message Board http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/gc/surnames/l/a/LARRABEE/queries Names Researching: PROSSER, BERRY, MCINTYRE, LARRABEE, BROWN, MCCARTHY, BADORE, JARDINE, MARTIN, BLAKE with some BOULIER/BOLLIER/BEAULIEU, YADDOW AND MYERS tossed in for good measure. AIM ID: Since you read down this far, if you would like my AIM ID here it is: rikki2n4u

Hi, I've only just started genealogy. I'm interested in finding out if you have an archive that I can check before bombarding you with questions that you no doubt will have seen dozens of times. My interest in this mailing list is that my mother's maiden name is McIntyre and I'd like to trace it back further that just to my grandfather! The family currently lives mainly in Greenock in Scotland. Has anyone any links or have any work that they would be willing to share? Dennis

In a message dated 3/5/1 3:36:09 AM, Edoubleu7@aol.com writes: << Hi All, I thought this so interesting, I thought you might like to read it. It is about a program underway to trace our genealogy thru our genes.... Ed << http://dailynews.yahoo.com/htx/ap/20010303/sc/molecular_genealogy_1.html>> Hi Ed, Thank you for this wonderful info! About 12 years ago, when I started to instruct Genealogy Workshops at local colleges, night schools, etc. I had the foresight that DNA would become a part of genealogy research. When I related this to me students, they thought I had a very strange idea--it is so great to know it has come to be! :) I will pass this on to others!! Happy hunting, Helen (DCGS)

This site went around a while ago - but since it seems to be making the rounds again on another list - I thought that there might be people on this list that haven't seen it. http://www.ancientfaces.com/cgi-bin/index.cfm?navmode=home I'm always hoping to stumble across old photos of ancestors - I imagine you are too. Good Luck, Susan McIntyre

A researcher from another list that I belong to has gone to a lot of time and trouble to share his knowledge of genealogy research with the rest of us by creating a website that lists "tools, tips & tricks". Please take a minute to look through the site - I'm sure that you will find it very informative. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~mysong/tips.html Good Luck, Susan McIntyre

Here is one more piece of information that came up on another list - I have found on various headstones, where there are 3 links of a chain(?), and inside each link is a letter - F L T. This is the symbol for the Oddfellows organization--3 interlocking oval rings. The F.L.T. stands for friendship, love and truth. Here is a list of other common (and not so common) tombstone symbols. You might want to print this off and carry it with you when you go tombstone hunting : Religious: Angels - Angels mean spirituality and they guard the tomb. Bible - A single Holy Bible is often found on Christian stones. Holy Books (2) - on Mormon headstones indicates the Bible and the Book of Mormon. Holy Books (3) - on Mormon Headstones, these indicate The Scripture of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints - the Bible, Book of Mormon, and Doctrine & Covenants. Chalice - Usually used to represent the Sacraments. Crescent - the deceased was probably a Muslim. Crown - The soul's achievement and the Glory of life after death. Cross - the Cross is an emblem of faith. There are many different types of crosses and each may mean something different. For a good explanation of the various types of crosses, see http://www.alsirat.com/symbols/cross.html, a part of The City of the Silent. Heart (Sacred) - Usually found in Catholic cemeteries, this heart refers to the suffering of Christ for our sins. Menorah - An emblem of Judaism Star of David or Mogen David - Recognized as the international symbol of Judaism. Mortality: Arrow - Mortality Broken Column - This image represents the decay. It usually represents the loss of the Family head. Candle being Snuffed - Loss of life. Coffin - mortality. Figure with Dart - Mortality Grim Reaper - Death personified. Hourglass - Time has run out. Scythe - An instrument of the harvest, death cuts us down. Skull and or Skull/ Crossed Bones - Death. Spade or Crossed Spade and Shovel - Death Trade and Occupation: (emblems that MIGHT indicate a person's occupation in life) Barber Bowl (for bleeding) & Razor. Butcher - an axe, steel knife and cleaver. Farmer: - Coulter (type of hoe), flail (threshing implement), swingletree (rod for beating flax), stalk of corn. Gardener - Rake & Spade. Mason - Wedge & Level Mariner: - Anchor, Sextant & Cross Staff. Merchant - Scales, some type of sign. Minister - Bible Shoemaker - Leather cutter's Knife, Nippers, Sole cutter & Awl Smith - Crown, Hammer & Anvil Teacher - Open Book. Weaver - Loom, Shuttle & Stretchers. Wright - (a worker skilled in the manufacture especially of wooden objects --usually used in combination <shipwright> <wheelwright> - Compasses Resurrection, Eternal Life, Immortality: Angel, Flying or Trumpeting - Rebirth; Resurrection. Bird or Bird Flying - Eternal life, Resurrection. Cross: - The Cross means resurrection to many Christians. Dove, Flying - Resurrection. Flame, Light, Lamp or Torch: - Immortality of the Spirit, Resurrection. Garland or Wreath - Symbol of saintliness and glory, Victory in death. Horns -- The Resurrection Ivy - Immortality Rooster- Awakening; Resurrection. Star - Death could not overpower the Light of the Spirit which still shines in the darkness. Sun - A symbol of light and warmth, renewed life and life everlasting. Trumpeters -- Harbingers of the Resurrection Urn - Immortality (The storing of the vital organs was of extreme importance to the ancient Egyptians who believed that life would be restored through the vital organs placed in the urn). Animals: Birds - Eternal life or resurrection. Butterfly - Short-life. Dog - Implies a good master worthy of love. Dove - Seen in both Christian and Jewish cemeteries, the dove means innocence and/ or peace. Lamb - Usually marks the grave of a child and means Innocence. Lion - The Lion's eternal watch guards the tomb and stands for Courage. Rooster - Awakening; Resurrection. Plants: Fruits -- Eternal plenty as in the fruit of life. Full-Blown Rose - The deceased died in the prime of life Ivy -- Ivy stands for friendship and also immortality. Laurel -- A symbol of worldly accomplishment and heroism. Lily - The virgins' flower and also the symbol of innocence and purity. Morning Glory - Signifies the beginning of Life Oak., Oak Leaves and Acorn - Oak leaves on tombs can stand for power, authority or victory. Often seen on Military tombs. Palm Branch - Signifies Victory and Rejoicing Poppy - Eternal Sleep. Roses - Roses signify completion and the brevity of earthly existence. Rosemary - Rosemary is for remembrance. Thistles can also stand for remembrance. Thistle - Deceased was of Scottish descent. Tree or Trees A Tree stands for life. A Tree Sprouting stands for life everlasting. Tree Trunk stands for the brevity of life. Stones shaped liked Tree Stumps usually signify that the deceased was a member of The Woodmen of the World Weeping Willow Tree - Perpetual Mourning; Grief. Wheat Strands or Sheaves - The divine harvest. Miscellaneous: Broken Ring -- The family circle has been severed. Cherub - Cherubs are angelic and signify innocence. Crossed Swords - Military person of high rank. Hands: Hands in cemeteries are usually in one of the following four positions; clasping, praying, pointing, and blessing. Hand, Pointing Up - Pathway to heaven. Hands, Clasped - Farewells or the bond of marriage Hands, Praying - Asking God for Eternal life. Hands, Blessing - Blessing of those left behind. Harp - Praise to the God. Heart - Love. Stylized hearts stand for the affection of the living for the dead. Two joined hearts on a stone mark a marriage, Rod or Staff - Comfort for the bereaved. Stars and Stripes Around Eagle -- Eternal vigilance and liberty. Often seen on military markers. Urn with Flame -- Undying remembrance Initials of Fraternal Organizations: AOH- Ancient Order of Hibernians BPOE- Benevolent & Protective Order of Elks CAR- Children of the American Revolution DAR- Daughters of the American Revolution FOE- Fraternal Order of Eagles FOP- Fraternal Order of Police F&AM- Free and Accepted Masons GAR- Grand Army of the Republic I.O.R.M.- Improved Order of Red Men IOF- Independant Order of Foresters IOOF- Independant Order of Odd Fellows IOJD- International Order of Job's Daughters J.O.A.M.- Junior Order of American Mechanics J.O.U.A.M.- Junior Order of United American Mechanics K.of C.- Knights of Columbus K.of P.- Knights of Pythias KT- Knights Templar LOM- Loyal Order of Moose M.W.A. Modern Woodmen of America N.O.W. Neighbors of Woodcraft RA- Royal Academy RA- Royal Arcanum R.A.M.- Royal Arch Masons *R.N.A. Royal Neighbors of America SAR- Sons of the American Revolution S.F.W.C. Supreme Forest Woodmen Circle U.S.A.- United States Army U.S.A.F.- United States Air Force U.S.M.C.- United States Marine Corp U.S.N.- United States Navy YMCA- Young Men's Christian Association YWCA- Young Women's Christian Association W.C. Woodmen Circle W.O.W. Woodmen of the World W.O.W. Women of Woodcraft FRATERNAL ACRONYMS: AAONMS Ancient Arabic Order of Nobles of the Mystic Shrine (Masonic) ("The Shriners") AASR Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite (Masonic) ABA American Benefit Association AF&AM Ancient Free and Accepted Masons AMD Allied Masonic Degree AMORC Ancient and Mystical Order Rosae Crucis(Rosicrucians) AMOS Ancient Mystic Order of Samaritans (see IOOF) AOF Ancient Order Of Foresters AOH Ancient Order Of Hibernians AOKMC Ancient Order Of Knights of Mystic Chain AOUW Ancient Order Of United Workmen ALOH American Legion of Honor APA American Protective Association AUM Ancient Order of Mysteries (MASONS) AUSA Association of the United States Army AUV Association of Union Veterans BARE Benefit Association Of Railway Employees BAY Brotherhood of American Yeomen BKA Benevolent Knights Association BKofM Black Knights of Molders BPOE Benevolent and Protective Order of Elks BPOEW Benevolent and Protective Order of Elks of the World BofRTM Brotherhood of Rail Road Track Men BLE Brotherhood of Locomotive Engineers BLF&E Brotherhood of Locomotive Firemen & Engineers BRT Brotherhood of Railway Trainmen CBL Catholic Benevolent Legion CD of A Catholic Daughters of America CKofA Catholic Knights of America CMBA Catholic Mutual Benefit Association COOF Catholic Order of Foresters CTAS Catholic Total Abstinence Society CBKA Commandery Benevolent Knights Association CCTAS Crusaders-Catholic Total Abstinence Society DAC Daughters of the American Colonists DAR (NSDAR) National Society Daughters of the American Revolution DAV Disabled American Veterans D of A Daughters of America DoL Daughters of Liberty DAN Daughters of the Nile (Masonic) DOKK Dramatic Order Knights of Khorassan (Knights of Pythias) DOLLUS Dames of the Loyal Legion of the United States DUV Daughters of Union Veterans of the Civil War ECV E Clampus Vitus EAU Equitable Aid Union EBA Emerald Beneficial Association FAM Free and Accepted Masons F&AM Free and Accepted Masons FCB Knights of Pythias FLT Independent Order of Odd Fellows FOE Fraternal Order of Eagles FOAST Fraternal Order of Alaska State Troopers FOF Fraternal Order of Firefighters FOP Fraternal Order of Police GALSTPTR German American Legion of St. Peter GAR Grand Army of the Republic GLAUM Grand Lodge Ancient Order of Mysteries- Masonic Order GLDS Grand Lodge Daughters of Scotia GUOOF Grand United Order of Odd Fellows HZ Haro Zaro IBBH International Brotherhood of Blacksmiths and Helpers ICBU Irish Catholic Benevolent Union IHSV Red Cross of Constantine IOA International Order of Alhambra IODE Independent Order, Daughters of the Empire IOGT International Order of Good Templars IOH Improved Order of Heptasophs IOHH International Order of Hoo-Hoo IOI Independent Order of Immaculates IOKP Independent Order of Knights of Pythias IOOF Independent Order of Odd Fellows IOOF-PM Independent Order of Odd Fellows, Past Master ISH Independent Sons of Honor IOStL Independent Order of St. Luke IOF Independent Order of Foresters IORM Improved Order of Redmen (Sons of Liberty) IOR Independent Order of Rechabites IOV International Order of Vikings IUOM Independent United Order of Mechanics IWW Industrial Workers of the World IOF Independent Order of Foresters IOOF Independent Order of Odd Fellows IOJD Independent Order of Job's Daughters IORG International Order of Rainbow Girls (Masonic) ISDA Italian Sons and Daughters of America JOAM Junior Order of American Mechanics JOUAM Junior Order of United American Mechanics JAOUW Junior Order-Ancient Order of United Workmen JOUAM Junior Order-Order of United American Mechanics KC Knights of Columbus KGC Knights of the Golden Chain KGC Knights of the Golden Circle KGE Knights of the Golden Eagle KGL Knight Grand Legion KLH Knights and Ladies of Honor KM Knights Militant (See KKK) KofC Knights of Columbus KofFM Knights of Father Matthew KFM Knights of Father Matthew KofH Knights of Honor KOL Knights of Labor KofL Knights of Loyola KM Knights of Malta (Masonic) KMC Knights of the Mystic Chain KOTM Knights of the Macabees KPC Knights of Peter Claver KofTM Knights of the Macabees KP Knights of Pythias KofP Knights of Pythias KSC Knights of St. Columbkille KG Knights of St. George KSTG Knights of St. George KSTI Knights of St. Ignatius KofSJ Knights of St. John KSTJ Knights of St. Joseph KSL Knights of St. Lawrence KSTM Knights of St. Martin KofSTP Knights of St. Patrick KSTP Knights of St. Paul KSTP Knights of St. Peter KSTT Knights of St. Thomas KofSTW Knights of St. Wenceslas KT Knights of Tabor KofT Knights of Tabor KT Knights Templars (Masonic) KWM Knights of Wise Men KGE Knights of Golden Eagle KHC Knights of Holy Cross KKK Knights of Klu-Klux Klan KOTM Knights of Macabees KSF Knights of Sherwood Forest LAOH Ladies Ancient Order of Hibernians LDG Independent Order of Foresters LGAR Ladies of the Grand Army of the Republic LKofA Loyal Knights of America LOL Loyal Order Orange Lodge (The Orange Order){Orange Men} LOM Legion of the MOOSE LOOM Loyal Order of the MOOSE LOVUS Legion of Valor of the United States MBS Mutual Benefit Society MOLLUS Military Order of the Loyal Legion of the United States MOOSE Loyal Order of the Moose MOPH Military Order of the Purple Heart MOVPER Mystic Order of Veiled Prophets of the Mystic Realm (Grotto) (Masonic) MRA Royal Arcanum MCL Marine Corps League MWA Modern Woodmen of America NCOA Non-Commissioned Officers Association (Military Society) NEOP New England Order of Protection NOK New Order Knights (see KKK) NL Navy League NSDAR National Society Daughters of American Revolution NSSUP National Society Sons of Utah Pioneers NU National Union OofA Order of Amaranth (Masonic) OCF Order of Chosen Friends OofUF Order of United Friends OGC Order of the Golden Cross ODHS Des Schwestern Verbandes (Sisters of the Federation OES Order of the Eastern Star OSC Order of Scottish Clans (St. Andrew's Societies) OUAM Order of United American Mechanics PFofA Patriotic Friends of America PH The Order of Patrons of Husbandry (The Grange) PM Patriarchs Militant (Independent Order of Odd Fellows) POSA Patriotic Order of the Sons of America RA Royal Academy RA Royal Arcanum RAM Royal Arch Masons RC Republican Club RMOKHSJ The Religious and Military Order of Knights of the Holy Sepulchre of Jerusalem RSGF Royal Society of Good Fellows RSM Royal and Select Masons ROJ Royal Order of Jesters (Masonic) RSTV Rite of St. Vaclara RSTV Rite of St. Vita RK Roman Knights RTT Royal Templars of Temperance SAR Sisters of the American Revolution SAR Sons of the American Revolution SBCL Saint Bonifazius Catholic Union SBL Society B. Lafayette SCV Sons of the Confederate Veterans SofE Sons of England SMAA Scandinavian Mutual Aid Association SNA-AUM Shrine of North America SR Scottish Rite (Masonic Order) SofSt.G Sons of St. George ST Sons of Temperance ST.G SoNY St. George's Society of New York SUVCW Sons of Union Veterans of the Civil War SV Sons of Veterans of the United States of America TCL Tall Ceders of Lebanon (Masonic) TH Temple of Honor and Temperance-Independent Order of Odd Fellows TPLF Temple of Honor and Temperance, IOOF TROA The Retired Officer's Association UAOD United Ancient Order of Druids UCV United Confederate Veterans UDC United Daughters of the Confederacy UFL Union Fraternal League UFM United Friends of Michigan UOPF United Order of Pilgrim Fathers VFW Veterans of Foreign Wars WKSC White Knights of the Southern Cross (See KKK) WOW Woodmen of the World YMCA Young Men's Christian Association YWCA Young Women's Christian Association Initials after ancestors' names may provide useful information. The following list includes initials you may come across when reading old wills or other documents. a.a.s. died in the year of his/her age (anno aetitis suae) ( 86 y/o died in year 86) d.s.p. died without issue (decessit sine prole legitima) d.s.p.l. died without legitimate issue (decessit sine prole mascula supersita) d.s.p.m.s. died without surviving male issue (decessit sine prole mascula supersita) d.s.p.s died without surviving issue (decessit sine prole supersita) d.unm died unmarried d.v.p. died in the lifetime of his father (decessit vita patris) d.v.m. died in the lifetime of his mother (decessit vita matris) Et al and others (et alia) Inst present month (instans) Liber book or volume Nepos grandson Nunc Nuncapative will, an oral will, written by a witness Ob he/she died (obit) Rel. or Relict widow or widower (relicta/relictus) Res. or Residue widow or widower Sic so or thus, exact copy as written Testes witnesses Ult late (ultimo) Ux or vs wife (uxor) Viz namely (videlicet) I hope this helps! >>

Cleaning out some of my mail and thought I'd share some of the more interesting links to genealogy sites... http://www.genealogysearchengines.com/ http://www.itd.nps.gov/cwss/ http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/inddbs/5445.htm http://www.irishmigration.com/links/culture.asp http://library5.library.cornell.edu/MOA/ http://members.aol.com/AdamCo9991/epidemics.html Sorry - I know that I returned some of the links to the lists that first offered them - but it was so much less confusing to do it this way (I am lucky enough to belong to some wonderful lists that are great for sharing information). Susan McIntyre

Scotland. Check out the following at Electric Scotland http://www.electricscotland.com/webclans/m/macintyre/intro.htm Ireland Check out http://members.aol.com/lochlan2/t-saoir.htm And The MSN Message board that started yesterday looks pretty good too. Use it wisely. (As much as I despise MSN) http://communities.msn.com/McIntyreFamilyChat The joining of this may be tricky but probably well worth the effort. Peter. http://www.ceres.dti.ne.jp/~pyms/index.htm

What does it mean ".....The First Authentic McIntyre in America". What and/or who is that jolly old Burgess from Lower Norfork Virginia Arrives c1622 and named William Jacob McIntire? Sargent Mike ps: He really arrived earlier to the America's, buy first stopping in the Borbadoe's to start a business. Sorry but my spell check is on vacation :>]

Does anyone have the ancestry of Patrick Lloyd McIntire (1800's) in Kentucky who was married to Betsy Berry? I believe his father was Thomas McAntire who was married to Peggy Simms (of Pennsylvania). Anything on this line and farther back would be greatly appreciated.

This article from the Irish Ancestors section of the Irish Times newspaper online (www.ireland.com) describes the work of the Scotch-Irish Foundation, which may be of help to list members researching MacIntyres with roots in Ulster. Best regards, PK Murphy, in Toronto, still searching for the elusive Nancy McIntyre who turned up in 1830, at age six, minus her parents, in Neshoba Co., Mississippi, USA ** This article was originally published in The Irish At Home and Abroad journal of Irish genealogy and heritage (volume 2 #1, 1994/1995). Published four times yearly. Colonial Scots-Irish Immigrants: Scotch-Irish Foundation By Kyle J. Betit The Scotch-Irish Foundation (PO Box 181, Bryn Mawr, PA 19010) was established as a Pennsylvania non-profit corporation in 1949, specifically to collect records relating to the Scots-Irish and to preserve their history. They collect published books, family histories, letters, journals, and other records relating to Scots- Irish immigration and settlement in America. Upon entrance, each member contributes a "Family Registration" form detailing information on his or her Scots-Irish ancestors. Membership in the foundation costs $10.00, after which there are no annual dues. The Scotch-Irish Foundation's collections (including the family registrations) are housed at The Balch Institute for Ethnic Studies (18 South 7th Street, Philadelphia, PA 19106) where they are available to the public for research. Books in the foundation's collections can also be borrowed through inter-library loan at a public library. Neither the foundation nor the Balch Institute conducts research in response to genealogical queries. The foundation published a catalog, Library and Archives of the Scotch-Irish Foundation (1991), which includes bibliographies of their collections (available for $10.00). At the back of the catalog are listed the "first authentic Scotch-Irish ancestor in America" from the family registrations filed with the foundation. _____________________________________ Get your free E-mail at http://www.ireland.com