Hi everyone, This is my first posting to the list since joining. Have any of you experts on the various cadet branches of the Mackintosh family come across a family living in Ardclach in Nairnshire on the Brodie of Lethen estate in the 17th and 18th centuries called McIlvain or the other assorted spellings like McAlvain, McCoill Van or other variations which my Gaelic speaking friends tell me means the “sons of fair Donald”. We have tracked down some living in Kiltarlity in the 17th century among the Frasers and Lady Belladrum is witness/godparent to at least one. My 6 x great grandfather Alexander McIlvain was Factor of Lethen at the time of the ’45 and his children and those of his brothers had almost exclusively members of the Brodie of Lethen, Macpherson of Invereshie, Campbell of Cawdor and Dunbar of Grange families as witnesses/godparents. His mother was a MacAndrew and his sister Janet was married to one of the Falconers and his cousins were the Macphersons of Ardersier one of whom was Factor at Cawdor after Valentine White who was himself godfather of Valentine McIlvain. The informed opinion is that the McIlvains were either a Cadet branch of the Mackintosh family or one of them was a natural son of a Mackintosh given their close relationship with most of the ruling families in the area. Can anyone shed some light on this for me from some recognised Mackintosh genealogies? Regards, Mark John M Sutherland-Fisher Managing Director, Czech Match Ltd North Cadboll House, North Cadboll, Fearn by Tain, Ross-shire, Scotland. IV20 1TN Tel and Fax: 0044 (0) 1862 871877 Mobile: 0044 (0) 7765 272815 Email: HYPERLINK "mailto:info@czechmatch.co.uk"info@czechmatch.co.uk website: HYPERLINK "http://www.czechmatch.co.uk"www.czechmatch.co.uk "Bringing Two Worlds Together" No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.15.3/1082 - Release Date: 20/10/2007 14:59

Hello Mark Welcome to the McIntosh list. Your posting will be a challenge as few of our discussions are of times these early. My own McIntoshs were from Glenurquhart in the late 1700s and early 1800s. By the 1851 census a lot of Glenurquhart McIntoshs had moved to Kiltality but this is 100+ years after the time you are interested in. I hope other can throw some light on your posting. Regards John Mc -----Original Message----- From: mcintosh-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mcintosh-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Czech Match Ltd Sent: Monday, 22 October 2007 11:56 a.m. To: MCINTOSH@rootsweb.com Subject: [MCINTOSH] Mackintosh family in Nairnshire known asMcIlvain/MacAlvain/McCoil Van in 17th and 18th centuries Hi everyone, This is my first posting to the list since joining. Have any of you experts on the various cadet branches of the Mackintosh family come across a family living in Ardclach in Nairnshire on the Brodie of Lethen estate in the 17th and 18th centuries called McIlvain or the other assorted spellings like McAlvain, McCoill Van or other variations which my Gaelic speaking friends tell me means the “sons of fair Donald”. We have tracked down some living in Kiltarlity in the 17th century among the Frasers and Lady Belladrum is witness/godparent to at least one. My 6 x great grandfather Alexander McIlvain was Factor of Lethen at the time of the ’45 and his children and those of his brothers had almost exclusively members of the Brodie of Lethen, Macpherson of Invereshie, Campbell of Cawdor and Dunbar of Grange families as witnesses/godparents. His mother was a MacAndrew and his sister Janet was married to one of the Falconers and his cousins were the Macphersons of Ardersier one of whom was Factor at Cawdor after Valentine White who was himself godfather of Valentine McIlvain. The informed opinion is that the McIlvains were either a Cadet branch of the Mackintosh family or one of them was a natural son of a Mackintosh given their close relationship with most of the ruling families in the area. Can anyone shed some light on this for me from some recognised Mackintosh genealogies? Regards, Mark John M Sutherland-Fisher Managing Director, Czech Match Ltd North Cadboll House, North Cadboll, Fearn by Tain, Ross-shire, Scotland. IV20 1TN Tel and Fax: 0044 (0) 1862 871877 Mobile: 0044 (0) 7765 272815 Email: HYPERLINK "mailto:info@czechmatch.co.uk"info@czechmatch.co.uk website: HYPERLINK "http://www.czechmatch.co.uk"www.czechmatch.co.uk "Bringing Two Worlds Together" ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MCINTOSH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.15.3/1082 - Release Date: 20/10/2007 2:59 p.m.