Dear Listers: I do have two McIntire's I'm stuck on. Both are named David McIntire. Here they are: David McIntire - b. 1776 Wilton, NH. m. Mary Johnson in Wilton, NH in 1810, d. unknown. Children: Timothy McIntire - b. 1819 m. Catherine Jane Hill 1841, d. 1910 in Arkansas City, KS. Roxanna J. McIntire - b. 1823 Wilton, NH, m. Jesse B. Hidden, d. May 1917, Buried in Nashua, NH. Unknown Daughter - KNOWN ABOUT DAVID 1. Wife, Mary, is buried in Nashua, NH. 2. Marriage cited in Wilton, NH town records, 1810 WOULD LIKE TO KNOw - Where buried, cemetery, death date, any other children's names. ---------------------------------- David McIntire - b. 1799, NH, m(1). Phebe ?, m(2). Lydia C. ?, David d. 1-10-1865 in Dixfield, ME, buried on Severy Hill, East Dixfield, ME. KNOWN ABOUT DAVID: 1. David had some land dealings on Severy Hill, Dixfield, ME, with Timothy McIntire, son of David McIntire of Wilton, NH (see above) in about 1852. 2. Lived on Severy Hill, near East Dixfield, ME. Appears in 1850 Fed Census. Suspect Timothy and this David McIntire are related either as cousins, or Uncle/Nephew. WOULD LIKE TO KNOw - 1. Where this David McIntire was born. 2. Who his parents were and did he have brothers and sisters. Thanks, Ron McIntire rmcintire@aol.com

I think it would be helpful to all of us on these lists if each person on the list would send in their McIntyre ancestors (especially, ones that they have reached a dead end on) with the locality where these ancestors may have lived, along with approximate dates (births, deaths, marriages). That way, someone on the list may relate to one of these people you've been searching for and may have more information on their pedigrees to share with others. These lists are great, but only work well when others contribute with their messages, which may be helpful to someone else, and could be beneficial in solving some of your own ancestry puzzles. Peter has been good enough to administer a list - let's all cooperate with him and make the lists more active.

I haven't received any messages from the McIntire ... or McIntyre,etc ... lists for a long time? Anybody out there?

Looking for proof of Richard McIntire-tyre's father. It has been on Ancestry.Com that William McIntire"s b. about 1750 and died about 1815 in Harrison Co, Ind. Wife is Kesiah Linder and children: John, William, James, Richard (my gg grandfather), Robert and Jesse is the right line. There are some females also on the census for Harrison Co.not listed. The father of William? is James McIntire. James children are listed as Hugh, John, Thomas, Joseph, Archibald, James, Alexander, and William. James father is Andrew b abt 1719 and children were James, John, Jenet and Thomas. Some of this family came from Pa. possibly to Ky and then some into Harrison Co. Indiana. I have traced my McIntire line back to Richard b. abt 1807. The name has been spelled various ways. If anyone has any information on this line it will be greatly appreciated Evelyn Ellen McIntire Hess

Was Josiah McIntire the brother of the Thomas McIntire who married Jane (Walton)? Very confused. Norma.

I am all mixed up on my McIntire ancestors. Please help straighten this out for me if you can. My great great grandfather was Thomas B McIntire, born 1779 in Pennsylvania. He was married on December 20, 1804 in Washington County, Kentucky, to Sarah Summers. I have this Thomas as being the son of Thomas Mcintire and Jane (probably Walton). However, I now wonder if he was the son of a Josiah McIntire and Lucy Waller, as some sources have him. I also have this Thomas as being married first to Ann Barnett. Now I am confused. Are these two different Thomas'es? Was one of them married to Ann Barnett and the other one married to Sarah Summers. Is my Thomas McIntire (wife Sarah Summers) the son of ThomasMcIntire and Jane? Are there two Thomas McIntire's - one the son of Thomas and Jane - and one the son of Josiah and Lucy? Which one does my Thomas McIntire and Sarah Summers belong to? Does anyone have all the children's names (and dates) for Thomas and Jane? Ditto for Josiah and Lucy? Any help on this would be most gratefully appreciated (and please ignore the spelling of the surname, as it has been spelled every which way from Sunday!) Thanks! Norma.

The USGS at http://geonames.usgs.gov/gnisform.html has Middle Island Creek in Pleasants County, WV. Not Doddridge County. There is no Middle Island Creek in Pennsylvania. But that is not to say that there never was. As for Clarksburg, it exists in BOTH PA & WV. There are quite a few JOHN MCINTIRE/TYRE in the state during any given time period. Kentucky has a rather gruesome account. One McIntyre attack may have "merged" with another over time. Primary sources for either state could prove interesting. Dee

Me. Peter McEntyre from Australia and Japan. If you can't beat em join em'. I'd just like to inform you all that I took on the responsibility of List Administrator for this list. I'm also administrating the MCENTYRE & MCINTYRE lists. Somehow I'll try and get us all communicating effectively with each other. I've been in contact with the MCENTIRE administrator as well and she is also keen to get us all together. FYI. McIntyre list has 172 members. McIntire list has 91 members McEntyre list has 34 members McEntire list has 36 members. Some of you may be on more than one of these lists. I think to make everything run well, you are free to stay on whatever list you like, but I'd suggest that each time you post you also post to the main list. (McIntyre) at this stage. You will have to become a member of this list by sending a message to MCINTYRE-D-request@rootsweb.com subscribe Sincerely yours, Peter McEntyre, (In Japan) ICQ# 7082799 E-mail: pyms@ceres.dti.ne.jp CLANNING AROUND http://www.ceres.dti.ne.jp/~pyms/index.htm Griffiths Valuation http://www.ceres.dti.ne.jp/~pyms/griffith.htm Listowner of MCENTYRE-D-request@rootsweb.com subscribe Listowner of MCINTYRE-D-request@rootsweb.com subscribe Listowner of MCINTIRE-D-request@rootsweb.com subscribe

> >McIntyre list has 172 members. >McIntire list has 91 members >McEntyre list has 34 members >McEntire list has 36 members. I suggest that these various spelled lists (since they all represent variations of the same SURNAME) be coordinated into ONE list in order to avoid jumping back and forth from list to list to read McIntire/McIntyre/McEntire/McEntyre/McAntire or even M'Cantire messages - which would greatly simplify things. Just in my one line, the name has been spelled in each of these ways by various members of various generations, but all stem from the same progenitor. And good luck and congrats as New List Administrator, Peter.

Searching for information on : JAMES MCINTYRE, (spelled every way imaginable!) born Abt. 1836, location unknown, and died May 14, 1865 in Williamsburg, NC during service in the civil war. He married MARY EMILY WHALEY November 08, 1859 in Mendon, St. Joseph, Michigan, daughter of JOHN WHALEY and ELIZABETH PORTMAN. She was born February 05, 1843 in Michigan, and died February 28, 1871 in Pawnee City, Pawnee, Nebraska. James' Military service: December 17, 1863, Enlistment date. Enlisted in 9th Infantry, Company C claiming Pawnee NE as home and enlisted at age 26. JAMES MCINTYRE and MARY WHALEY had a son named JAMES EDWIN MCINTIER, b. March 11, 1864, Mendon, St. Joseph, MI; d. November 17, 1906, Pueblo, Pueblo, CO. He married DORA V. FREY Abt. 1885, daughter of JOHN FREY and ELIZA KENNEDY. She was born August 18, 1867 in Nebraska, and died March 30, 1951 in Colorado Springs, El Paso, CO. The family had a homestead near Alliance, Nebraska around 1881. Dora remarried after James' death. Her second husband's name was Sam Wilson. He was a successful farmer in Pawnee City, NE. Any help or leads would be greatly appreciated! Mike McIntier Scottsdale, AZ

Hi again, Becky mentioned a Sally McIntire as "the last person to be murdered by Indians in northern VA..." I would love to be able to site the source for that one, Becky. If you find it, please, let me know. No time like the present to begin a notebook on McIntire Firsts and Lasts! I have found a couple of MCINTIRE / TYRE "firsts" in my Michigan research. They are both noteworthy (if not notorious). 1.) Ray McIntire invented Styrofoam for the Dow Chemical Co.. McIntire said his invention of foamed polystyrene was accidental. His invention came as he was trying to find a flexible electrical insulator around the time of World War II. Polystyrene, which already had been invented, was a good insulator but too brittle. McIntire tried to make a new rubber-like polymer by combining styrene with isobutylene, a volatile liquid, under pressure. The result was a foam polystyrene with bubble, 30 times lighter than regular polystyrene. source The Detroit News 2.) In 1838 the first convict to pass the threshold of the newly built ( and now infamous ) JACKSON STATE PRISON was one John McIntyre from Detroit. He had been sentenced one year for larceny. source History of Jackson County Michigan ( Gee, I gotta look for that full title and publisher. This is off-the-top-of-my-head.) Dee

The hair on my neck just stood up! Would anyone know if the unfortunate John and Mrs. McIntire were parents to a newborn son? Was one of John's brothers named Alexander? My ggg-grandfather Thomas McIntyre/McIntire (have seen it spelled either way - as well as other ways) may well have been born in Pennsylvania. He can be found on the probate record of Alexander McIntyre of Mayville, Chautauqua Co., NY. Probate dated 1820. Alexander's son, Alex Jr, was also a creditor in that probate. Alex Sr. built a "fort' in Chautauqua because he had been abducted by Indians who had sliced the back of his ears to cut the blood supply to them. Alex wanted to avoid another abduction. He was a colorful character and an "Indian healer". He had learned the natural healing ways of the Indians. Alexander also owned land near Porter, Niagara Co., NY. Thomas was living in Porter during the war of 1812. Alexander Sr. had been living, prior to Mayville, in Meadville, PA. Sources there suggest that he may have "run off" with the Indians voluntarily in order to leave his wife and children to be with a lover, Deborah Cameron. However, the 1810 census shows him with young males ( he had sons ) and one slave. The "slave" must have been the disillusioned miss Cameron. She was the only female and may have been doing the laundry and other "women's work" when the census taker came. Thomas may have either come from another McIntire/tyre family or Alex was married prior to the jilted wife. For some reason Thomas lived near Alex if not with him. Thomas died 01 May 1861 Oakland County, MI. His headstone only shows him as 69 years old. He died 15 days after the "call to arms" and Michigan's first regiment. That must have been an awful stress for him. Thomas could have been born in May 1791. Looks like I must find that book. Chronicles of Border Warfare by Withers, A.S. Dee

Thanks to Chris Morgan for the interesting and more detailed accounts of the deaths of John McIntire and his wife in an Indian attack. Genealogy is much more interesting when there are real stories attached to our ancestors, rather than just a gathering of a bunch of names, dates and places.

Here is the other account of the Indian attack. It was a handwritten transcript from a book owned by a relative of mine, and passed down to me by my aunt. "The Fate of John McIntire and Wife" Mound Builders, Indians and Pioneers by William B. Price "As John McIntire and his wife were returning home from a visit to a neighbor in May 1791, they passed through the yard of Uriah Ashcraft. Soon afterward Mr. Ashcraft was startled by the growling of one of his dogs, and hastening to the door, he espied an Indian. Closing the door, he ascended the stairs and endeavored to shoot the savage from a window, but his gun snapped. Observing other Indians close at hand he shouted for help, and they retreated. Three of McIntire's brothers coming up, Ashcraft explained the situation and the four started off in pursuit. About a mile from the house, they found the body of John McIntire, who had been killed and scalped. Concluding that Mrs. McIntire (whom they knew to be with him) was taken prisoner, they sent to Clarksburg for assistance to go to her rescue. A company of eleven men started shortly afterwards, in pursuit of the Indians. Led by Colonels George Jackson and John Haymond, who traced them as far as Middle Island Creek. Here six men, William Haymond, George Jackson, Benjamin Robinson, N. Carpenter, John Haymond, and John Halbert, were chosen to go ahead of the horses and follow the trail. They soon came upon the savages and attacked them, mortally wounding one of them. After a short encounter the Indians fled, leaving their plunder behind them and further pursuit was abandoned. Among the articles which they left was the scalp of Mrs. McIntire, whose body was afterwards found near that of her husband." That's all, folks! Chris __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/

Hi List: Wish I'd realized that this topic hadn't come up before! I would have mentioned sooner that I have two very similar accounts of the Indian attack, one from the Harrison County (WV) Genealogical Society newsletter and one transcribed from a book. Neither mentions the wife's name but Rachel seems most likely. I am descended from their son Zadoc. The HCGS article says the attack was in 1801, but that's the only place I've ever seen that date mentioned. It's probably an error. In an interesting note, an elderly cousin tells me that her father frequently told them the story about the bear which follows: Excerpt from "Ashcraft Family Represents Forbears of Various Lines Now Residents of Harrison, Wetzel, Taylor and Other Counties," Harrison County Genealogical Society newsletter, Volume 8, issue 4, 1994. "An interesting legend is told about the miraculous escape from massacre of the children of John McIntire, a brother of Mrs. Uriah Ashcraft, in May 1801 when both McIntire and his wife were slain by Indians. As the latter were coming down Nutter run to the Bingamon creek valley, they passed the McIntire house and heard such a racket that they thought it full of people and passed on without making an attack. The parents were away from home and the children had taken a pet bear into the house and were romping with it, thus creating the noise which misled the savages. The bear doubtless saved their lives. Prowling Indian On their way home that day, Mr. and Mrs. McIntire crossed the Ashcraft yard and a short time thereafter Uriah Ashcraft was startled by the sudden growling and warning attitude of his dogs. Stepping quickly to a door, he saw an Indian on the outside with a gun drawn. Ashcraft hastily closed and fastened the door and ran upstairs the better to fire at the intruder. Snapping his gun several times and discovering other Indians in the yard, he loudly shouted to apprise his neighbors he was in danger. Frightened the Indians retreated. Three brothers of John McIntire came to Ashcraft�s relief and he joined them in an attempt to trail the Indians. A mile away they discovered the body of John McIntire tomahawked, stripped and scalped. Concluding Mrs. McIntire had been taken prisoner, they hurriedly sent an alarm to Clarksburg, and a company of men led by John Haymond and George Jackson hastened to the scene and started to pursue the Indians. Below the three forks of Middle island creek, now in Doddridge county, before they were aware of proximity to the savages, they were fired upon by the latter, and two of the party narrowly escaped injury or death. A ball passed through a handkerchief on Haymond�s head, and another through one o Jackson�s shirtsleeves. Promptly returning fire, the white men rushed forward, but the Indians had retreated, abandoning some of their plunder, among which was the scalp of Mrs. McIntire. Her body was later found a short distance from the spot where he husband had been slain." The coordinator of the Harrison County Rootsweb site found this for me in the "Harrison Co Heritage" book: "known children of John and Rachel (Rose) McIntire (who were killed by Indians): Charles married Lucinda Nay; Elizabeth married Charles Nutter; Joseph married Mary "Molly" Glover; Isaac, who died young; Zadoc married Keziah Drummond. Joseph McIntire sold his land in Harrison and purchased 1200 acres in Tyler Co. At his death, this land was divided among his children, 4 of whom preceded him in death. Children: Malinda; Fralkin who married Phoebe Martin; Elizabeth; Permelia; Jacob who married Nancy Lyons; Rev George W; Luke who married Sarah Lemasters; and Henderson, who married Mary Lemasters." Stand by for part two! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/

There was an article in the 1920's in the Times West Virginian of Fairmont, WV. It says that W.H. Hess of Mannington WV has the lace cap which was worn by Sally McIntire the last person massacred by the Indians in Northern WV. who was killed in 1791, on the waters of Big Bingamon creek on the hillside south of the mouth of Long Run on the Harrison county side. I had John McIntire married to Rachel Rose but the article states her name was Sally. According to another article, this one from Chronicles of Border Warfare by Alexander Scott Withers. He states that John and his wife were returning from a visit; they passed through the yard of Uriah Ashcraft (note Mrs. Uriah Ashcraft was Sarah McIntire, sister of John). The children of John are: Charles b. 1778 Elizabeth b. 1780 Joseph b. 1784 d. 1854 Isaac b. 1785 d 1799 Zodac b. abt. 1790 d 1885 I do know that John had a brother named Thomas b. 1744 d 1820 Becky

Thanks Norma, for sharing the story of the Indian attack with the List. I found it very interesting, and would like to hear more. Ruthie Sorry, Ruthie, that's all I found. My great great grandfather was Thomas McIntire, born 1779 in Pennsylvania, and who married Sarah Summers in Washington County KY in 1804. If the John McIntire and wife who were in the Indian attack had children, one of them could be my Thomas McIntire, since I have no further information on the parents of my Thomas McIntire (and Sarah Summers). Any help on these lines would be greatly appreciated.

Found this on internet and thought it might be of interest. I believe this incident took place in Pennsylvania. McIntire Family Source: Chronicles of Border Warfare by Withers, Alexander Scott pg.39798. In May 1791, John McINTIRE & his wife were returning from a visit; they passed through the yard of Uriah ASHCRAFT; and in a small space of time after, Mr. ASHCRAFT, startled by the sudden growling & springing up of one of his dogs, stepped quickly to the door, when he spied an Indian. Closing the door he ascended the stairs that he might better fire upon the unwelcome intruder; & after snapping three several times & having discovered that there were other Indians in the yard, he raised a loud shout to apprize those who were within the sound of his voice that he was surrounded by danger. Upon this the Indians moved off ; and three brothers of McIntire coming to his relief, they all pursued the trail of the Indians. About a mile from Ashcraft's they found the body of John McINTIRE, tomahawked, scalped & stripped; & concluding that Mrs. McINTIRE was taken prisoner, tehy sent intelligence to Clarksburg of what had happened & requested assistance to follow the Indians & recover the prisoner from captivity. The desired assistance was immediately afforded; & a company of men, led on by Col. John HAYMOND & Col. George JACKSON went in pursuit. On Middle Island Creek, before they were aware of their proximity to the savages, they were fired upon by them & two of the party very narrowly escaped being shot.A ball passed through the hankerchief on the head of Col. HAYMOND & another through the sleeve of Col. JACKSON's shirt. The fire was promptly returned & the men rushed forward. The Indians however, made their retreat, though not without having experienced some injury; as was discovered by the blood, & the throwing down of some of the plunder which they had taken. It was here first ascertained that Mrs. McINTIRE had been killed, her scalp being among the things left and on the return of the party, her body was found some small distance from where that of her husband had been previously discovered.

Re Peter's message, the earliest one in my family was Thomas McANTIRE, some in next generation were McENTIRE and some were McIntyre or McEntyre, next generation McIntire, and I think one was McAntyre. LOL - All stemming from the same ancestor. My ma's maiden name wound up being McIntire. She was always emphatic that there was no Y in it. (Little did she know - lol).

I would like to invite you all to also join the McIntyre ROOTSWEB list spelt TYRE not TIRE. We have almost 200 members now. Many of the spellings being different through the generations. It is wise to not limit your research to the one spelling. Especially with this name. I used to be very proud that my family was McEntyre and that we were very rare. Then I discovered my Great Grandfather had spelt it both ways before and after his marriage. The spelling of this name was not so important 200 years ago. This is where you will find all those lost links. Look at the other spelling variations. Try MCINTYRE-L-request@rootsweb.com subscribe I'm sure that if we all stick together and cross post to the different spelt Newsgroups we will get some more links. I don't know how many members are on the McIntire list or if that list has an Administrator, but I have been trying to build up the membership on the McIntyre list as I believe this spelling to be the most common in the world. Sincerely yours, Peter McEntyre, (In Japan) ICQ# 7082799 E-mail: pyms@ceres.dti.ne.jp CLANNING AROUND http://www.ceres.dti.ne.jp/~pyms/index.htm Griffiths Valuation http://www.ceres.dti.ne.jp/~pyms/griffith.htm Listowner of MCENTYRE-L-request@rootsweb.com subscribe Listowner of MCINTYRE-L-request@rootsweb.com subscribe