----- Original Message ----- From: <Jeraldinep@aol.com> | Why aren't their names on the S.S.D.I , there is a lot of information there | too? What would keep their names off the S.S.D.I.? I can't find, Brown | McElroy, Willie McElroy, Eliza McElroy, and all these people died in the | 1940's.So their names were kept off for some reason. I'm wandering if you're allowing this race/ethnic issue to interfere with some serious research? It's seems just about every family has the story of a Native American somewhere in one of their lines or someone got mad at someone and changed the spelling of their name when they got to Ohio. Perhaps this could be set aside for the time being. I've seen several of your postings regarding your McElroy line and your inability to locate any information for your grandfather. My McElroys never went south of the Mason Dixon line, so I'm certain we aren't related. However, I share your frustation in not being able to find information on an ancestor only two generations back. I think you MAY be looking for the wrong information. When I began my research years ago, I had very little difficulty with both my grandmother's lines, however, I was immediately stumped on both my grandfathers lines. It took a long time to find out that both of my grandfathers went by their middle names. When I found their correct first names, I immediately found all sorts of records and documentation. I could be way off base with this, but could it be that Browne was not his given name? I wonder if it's a middle name or nickname?? Have you obtained your father's death certificate showing his father's full name? What about your grandfather's cemetery stone and death certificate? or perhaps your grandmother's death certificate showing her husband's name? Is there another initial or name on his cemetery stone besides Browne? What about obits for your father, grandfather and grandmother? Somewhere I think you're going to find another name besides Browne. Regards, Marc Whetsel

The book by David Muckleroy is over 3000 typewritten pages with xerox copies in it. David is working on putting it on CD. The information in there is for the Descendants of John Mackelroy (various spellings) of Baltimore Co., MD - all the way down including the female lines - where it has been submitted to him. He wrote the book and made it available back in 1983. The children of John Mackelroy and his wife Francis were: Rachel b. 1713 m. Avington Phelps/Felps John William Archibald possibly 2 more Mary Ann who married a Belk and maybe a James who married a Ruth David's book has all of the information he could find. He and I are both descendants of Archibald. Tom McLeroy was a descendant of both John and William. He was more interested in his research which is excellent and finding and amusing or interesting bits than in descendants not of his line that is past about 3 generations down from the original ancestor. Because there are so many pages, David's book is rather expensive and he is in a wheelchair so it is difficult for him to get out to copy the book. The main part of the book can be rented on microfilm/microfiche from the LDS. I don't know about Tom McLeroy's book. The Salt Lake Family History Library does have a copy of his book. I copied a good many of the pages. As far as I know, his widow who lives in Shelby Co., TX or did, doesn't have any more copies. You might ask at an LDS Library to see if his book is on microfilm or check Familysearch.org on the internet. It is not all that large a book. There is also an earlier section in a book called "The Box Book with McElroy and Floyd" and an earlier section in one of John Bennett Boddie's books - Southern Famlies, Volume IX - This covers from Archibald through his son, Archibald and his son, Micajah with others mentioned along the way. 55 pages. Our bunch is not mentioned in the Scotch Irish McElroys. They appear to be later arrivals. We have found some earlier arrivals, but have been unable to connect them. There was some talk at one time that Kenneth Graves would do a book, but I never heard that he did. Does anyone else know of any more books? Betty

Dear Julie, I saw your reply and wondered if you have any information on Mcelroys that lived in No. Ireland in the 1880's? I am specifically looking for more info on this family who were living in Stewartstown, Co. Tyrone. fater: Terance Mcelroy mother: Isabella McGuire children: Catherine (b. 1862) Terrance (b.1867) James (b.1869) <snip> Waneta, No, I'm not connected to him that I'm aware of...I just collect McElroys. Everywhere, and in any spelling variation. And it's always fun to be able to put one of them in a family context. I have over 12,000 at present from many, many different sources and am always on the lookout for more. I've looked for mine for over twenty years, with no luck, and started collecting all of them about two years ago Julie Freeman jffree1@hotmail.com <snip> __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com

It is difficult to remember that when I reply to someone that it goes to the list. Betty

I'm 70 years old. I have been "doing" genealogy for 29 years. I started with the Muckleroys (various spelling). We don't have all the McElroy, etc. folks because we didn't make contact with some of the descendants. David has been putting his book on a database and plans to put it on a CD. I think he made some early mistakes in entering children, but he tells me he is doing it correctly now. He has finished with the book part and is entering loose papers. Since he moved around, I'm not sure he still has everything, but it is still a lot. I expect I have a big percentage of what he has. Just the names. I have not gotten into the other things yet. I may not have time before I either slow down too much or die. When I started in genealogy, back 29 years ago, the Xerox machine was very basic. If you wanted anything from our local library, you had to mark the book and leave it with the librarian to make a copy. It cost 50 cents a page and then the book was out of circulation until they could copy it. You either had to go back and pick up your copies or leave money for it to be mailed. There was no microfilm copier. If you wanted a copy of a census, you needed to find a printed copy, or in some other libraries - not ours, you might get an especially important to you census notarized that this was an exact copy of the information on the film. As you might imagine, that wasn't done very often. I go by locations as much as anything else. It seems to me that one of the Adams mentioned was in the "right" place. When that is the case, it is possible that we might find out who they belong to. The courthouse or the state archives are usually the best. Betty ----- Original Message ----- From: "julie freeman" <jffree1@hotmail.com> To: <MCELROY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 8:04 AM Subject: Re: [MCELROY-L] Adam Calhoun McElroy > Betty, > Thanks for writing. I got David's book(s) last summer and they are just > overwhelming!! When I find someone that you or some of the others is > certain came from John (1690), I try to verify it with the books (when I > have the time) or I make a note that that person is probably in the books. > If I ever get to concentrate just on this family for an extended period, I'm > sure that I'll have a boatload of questions for you. I hope you're not > planning on going anywhere for the next twenty or thirty years. > As to Adam (m. Juelly Dowde) springing from the Kentucky bunch, though, I > have to say that he isn't. But that surely isn't set in concrete. I only > know that at this point, I have extracted all of them from Rev. McElroy's > "Scotch-Irish McElroys" and the "McElroy Family Newsletters" (except for a > couple or three issues) and haven't found a single one named Adam. It is a > possibility that Adam Calhoun could be from that family, though, as a desc. > of James3 (John2,James1) who married Violet Davis Calhoun(?). If anyone has > a thought on that, chime in. > Out of all the people in my db, I have found only a handfull who are named > Adam...the two mentioned above and the ones in Pa. who are from > Thomas Ray McElroy's line. > So, has anyone found a connection to the Adam who married Juelly Dowde? > > Julie > > _________________________________________________________________ > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com > > > ==== MCELROY Mailing List ==== > I collect dead relatives and sometimes a live cousin! > I looked for my ancestors,....and I found friends. > I shook my family tree and out came a forest of friends. > >

Why aren't their names on the S.S.D.I , there is a lot of information there too? What would keep their names off the S.S.D.I.? I can't find, Brown McElroy, Willie McElroy, Eliza McElroy, and all these people died in the 1940's.So their names were kept off for some reason.

> ______________________________ > From: "Betty Stokes" <jstokes@houston.rr.com> > Date: Thursday, July 4, 2002 8:54 AM > To: MCELROY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [MCELROY-L] Geaugau County, OH > > I did not see Browne McElroy (or other spelling) in Family Adventures of > John Mackelroy of Baltimore County, Maryland 1690-1983, by David V. > Muckleroy. > > I also did not see Browne McElroy in Tom McLeroy's book. > Betty >> > Hi List, Betty has mentioned two books....one by David Muckleroy, the other by a Tom McLeroy.....does anyone know the name of the book by Tom McLeroy....and also, does anyone know how to obtain a copy of both of these books ? Thanks for your assistance, Mark McLeroy Appling, GA

I only made a typo, sorry about the confusion.Jeraldinep@aol.com

Jeraldinep@aol.com, made a mistake

Yes I am sorry, I made a mistake I meant to put Geraldine McElroy Peters,my e-mail is Jeraldinep@aol.com, sometimes my mind runs faster than my fingers.

I would try to get hold of the death certificates for both your father and grandfather, since they died in the 20th century. Write to Dept of Public Health or Vital Statistics for the state they died in.........death certificates have lots of useful information.............good luck

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: McElroy Classification: Marriage Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/hF0.2ACIB/573.1.2.1.1.1.2 Message Board Post: Sorry Geraldine but our branch of the McElroy clan came directly to Canada from Ireland but were originally from the Isle of Mann. They lived in Scotland for several generations and only a short time in Ireland before emmigrating to Canada.I haven't come across the name Browne McElroy. Having died in 1940 Browne would be one of the more recent generations.

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This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: McElroy Classification: Marriage Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/hF0.2ACIB/573.1.2.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Do you ever see the name Browne(e) McElroy in any of your records, this my grandfather, I am of mixed heritage, and I would like to know for sure, my grandfather was Irish, my grandmother was Cherokee Indian, They were from Mississippi and Alabama, I find nothing on my folks in the Social Security Death Index, and to me this is very strange, Brown(e) McElroy died in 1940, my father, his son,was killed in 1944 by a bus in Sumpter County, Alabama.And I find nothing else.Thanks, if you ever heard of this McElroy, please let me know! I was surprised as the volume of McElroy's in Alabama, and no one ever heard of my grandfather?They probable dis-owned him because h married out of his race, we know how it was in those days, discrimination was law.

Waneta, No, I'm not connected to him that I'm aware of...I just collect McElroys. Everywhere, and in any spelling variation. And it's always fun to be able to put one of them in a family context. I have over 12,000 at present from many, many different sources and am always on the lookout for more. I've looked for mine for over twenty years, with no luck, and started collecting all of them about two years ago (and haven't even made a dent, I might add). Did this line originate in Virginia (after immigration) or did they come there from another state? There was an Adam McElroy who married Juelly Dowde on 3 Dec.,1785 in Craven Dist., N.C...Do you know if there is any connection between this Adam and Adam Calhoun? I'd love to have more on this family, if you feel like sending something. And, of course, you're welcome to anything I have that may help you. Julie Freeman jffree1@hotmail.com From: Bjrydr@aol.com Reply-To: MCELROY-L@rootsweb.com To: MCELROY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MCELROY-L] Adam Calhoun McElroy Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2002 10:44:36 EDT In a message dated 7/6/2002 1:45:08 AM Central Daylight Time, jffree1@hotmail.com writes: > I have Adam C. McElroy m. Jean Cunningham on 16 Apr.,1804 in Prince Edward Co., Virginia. Is this your Adam Calhoun McElroy or a different Adam (have not found many Mc.s with that name)? > > Julie > Yes, that's the same Adam Calhoun McElroy. Are you kin to him? Thanks so much for your response and help;. ==== MCELROY Mailing List ==== PLEASE NOTE: This list is for queries and replies, comments, requests for help, and other genealogical related information that is of interest to researchers having a connection or a possible connection to any McElroys. If you have questions or comments please contact the list administrator. Maryann Dixon Moseby, mdmgen@aol.com _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

Craven is a very good location for my line. I'll see what I can find. Betty ----- Original Message ----- From: <Bjrydr@aol.com> To: <MCELROY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 06, 2002 8:49 PM Subject: Re: [MCELROY-L] Adam Calhoun McElroy > In a message dated 7/6/2002 5:51:26 PM Central Daylight Time, > jffree1@hotmail.com writes: > > > > There was an Adam McElroy who married Juelly > > Dowde on 3 Dec.,1785 in Craven Dist., N.C...Do you know if there is any > > connection between this Adam and Adam Calhoun? > > > > Let me check my records and get back to you in a bit. > > > ==== MCELROY Mailing List ==== > When replying to one of these messages, *please* remember to remove all but a small portion of the original message. Most mail software will only include the portion that is highlighted when replying. > >

In a message dated 7/6/2002 5:51:26 PM Central Daylight Time, jffree1@hotmail.com writes: > There was an Adam McElroy who married Juelly > Dowde on 3 Dec.,1785 in Craven Dist., N.C...Do you know if there is any > connection between this Adam and Adam Calhoun? > Let me check my records and get back to you in a bit.

Julie - I have McElroys in my line that are located in Massachusetts. Do you have any McElroys living in Mass (Dorchester and Boston) in the late 1600's on up to the present in your database? Thanks Pat Thayer arachne@townisp.com ----- Original Message ----- From: julie freeman <jffree1@hotmail.com> To: <MCELROY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 06, 2002 6:50 PM Subject: Re: [MCELROY-L] Adam Calhoun McElroy > Waneta, > No, I'm not connected to him that I'm aware of...I just collect McElroys. > Everywhere, and in any spelling variation. And it's always fun to be able > to put one of them in a family context. I have over 12,000 at present from > many, many different sources and am always on the lookout for more. I've > looked for mine for over twenty years, with no luck, and started collecting > all of them about two years ago (and haven't even made a dent, I might add). > Did this line originate in Virginia (after immigration) or did they come > there from another state? There was an Adam McElroy who married Juelly > Dowde on 3 Dec.,1785 in Craven Dist., N.C...Do you know if there is any > connection between this Adam and Adam Calhoun? > I'd love to have more on this family, if you feel like sending something. > And, of course, you're welcome to anything I have that may help you. > > Julie Freeman > jffree1@hotmail.com > > From: Bjrydr@aol.com > Reply-To: MCELROY-L@rootsweb.com > To: MCELROY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [MCELROY-L] Adam Calhoun McElroy > Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2002 10:44:36 EDT > > In a message dated 7/6/2002 1:45:08 AM Central Daylight Time, > jffree1@hotmail.com writes: > > > > I have Adam C. McElroy m. Jean Cunningham on 16 Apr.,1804 in Prince > Edward Co., Virginia. Is this your Adam Calhoun McElroy or a different Adam > (have not found many Mc.s with that name)? > > > > Julie > > > Yes, that's the same Adam Calhoun McElroy. Are you kin to him? > > Thanks so much for your response and help;. > > > ==== MCELROY Mailing List ==== > PLEASE NOTE: This list is for queries and replies, comments, > requests for help, and other genealogical related information > that is of interest to researchers having a connection or a > possible connection to any McElroys. If you have questions or comments > please contact the list administrator. > Maryann Dixon Moseby, mdmgen@aol.com > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > > > ==== MCELROY Mailing List ==== > Remember it will help if you post in the subject line, the primary name, area of interest and dates, when making a query. Example: James McElroy, Franklin, TN, abt. 1856! > >

I have lots and lots and lots of Descendants of John and Francis Mackelroy of Baltimore Co., MD. I don't know how many. If you have a problem identifying some of yours, I'll be glad to have a look at mine. I don't have the McElroy-McCune descendants that I can identify. They mostly seem to be in Pennsylvania, Kentucky and SC and we don't have many there. I think Adam is from the McElroy-McCune (Scotch Irish in America) line. I have had to sort my spelling into 2 versions. Muckleroy - which is the down from Tennessee to Texas version of my direct line and Mackelroy for everyone else regardless of spelling. I can't find them otherwise. I just make a notation as to the spelling - well sometimes I do. I usually know their linage. I might not have them all entered because I'm not sure that they know how it spelled. They are not consistent. David Muckleroy found a John very early (before 1713) in one of the New England States. I think New Hampshire. It was on the LDS IGI . Betty ----- Original Message ----- From: "julie freeman" <jffree1@hotmail.com> To: <MCELROY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 06, 2002 5:50 PM Subject: Re: [MCELROY-L] Adam Calhoun McElroy > Waneta, > No, I'm not connected to him that I'm aware of...I just collect McElroys. > Everywhere, and in any spelling variation. And it's always fun to be able > to put one of them in a family context. I have over 12,000 at present from > many, many different sources and am always on the lookout for more. I've > looked for mine for over twenty years, with no luck, and started collecting > all of them about two years ago (and haven't even made a dent, I might add). > Did this line originate in Virginia (after immigration) or did they come > there from another state? There was an Adam McElroy who married Juelly > Dowde on 3 Dec.,1785 in Craven Dist., N.C...Do you know if there is any > connection between this Adam and Adam Calhoun? > I'd love to have more on this family, if you feel like sending something. > And, of course, you're welcome to anything I have that may help you. > > Julie Freeman > jffree1@hotmail.com > > From: Bjrydr@aol.com > Reply-To: MCELROY-L@rootsweb.com > To: MCELROY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [MCELROY-L] Adam Calhoun McElroy > Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2002 10:44:36 EDT > > In a message dated 7/6/2002 1:45:08 AM Central Daylight Time, > jffree1@hotmail.com writes: > > > > I have Adam C. McElroy m. Jean Cunningham on 16 Apr.,1804 in Prince > Edward Co., Virginia. Is this your Adam Calhoun McElroy or a different Adam > (have not found many Mc.s with that name)? > > > > Julie > > > Yes, that's the same Adam Calhoun McElroy. Are you kin to him? > > Thanks so much for your response and help;. > > > ==== MCELROY Mailing List ==== > PLEASE NOTE: This list is for queries and replies, comments, > requests for help, and other genealogical related information > that is of interest to researchers having a connection or a > possible connection to any McElroys. If you have questions or comments > please contact the list administrator. > Maryann Dixon Moseby, mdmgen@aol.com > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > > > ==== MCELROY Mailing List ==== > Remember it will help if you post in the subject line, the primary name, area of interest and dates, when making a query. Example: James McElroy, Franklin, TN, abt. 1856! > >