Jean, Thank you for your response to my post. You may already have heard from Belinda; I think that she has been monitoring the list and/or the message board. In case she is not, I just forwarded your message to her. I hope that you and Belinda have a mutually beneficial exchange of information. Kirsten On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 14:48:13 +1000, jean old wrote > Hi > My gg grandfather was Robert McConnell he was born 1867 in Donegal > his father was William they did go to live in Scotland sorry to say > i dont know if they had any siblings regards Jean (Australia) > > On 7/14/07, gc-gateway@rootsweb.com <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > > > Author: ksaxe > > Surnames: McConnell > > Classification: queries > > > > Message Board URL: > > > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.mcconnell/2466/mb.ashx > > > > Message Board Post: > > > > ***** > > > > Belinda Dettmann is an avid Australian genealogist who hit a brick wall > > researching her ggg grandfather James McConnell. As an adult, James lived > > in England, but Belinda found census entries which say that James was born > > in Scotland about 1801. Belinda described her research beyond the census as > > follows: > > > > "James McConnell moved to Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, where he was a > > warehouseman, then foreman in an iron foundry. He married a local girl in > > 1820 and lived there until his death in 1868, having at least 8 children and > > lots of descendants. In the 1851 and 1861 census his unmarried sister Jean > > McConnell (also b Scotland in 1811 or 1812) was living with the > > family. This ought to be enough for me to identify his Scottish roots, but > > it hasn't so far. I've investigated half a dozen possibilities to date in > > the Scottish PRs [parish registers], and they either turn out to be > > impossible, or have insufficient data to decide. There is a family legend > > that there were Irish roots way back, and it's been suggested that he might > > have been born in Ireland and been ashamed to admit it. This could be so > > but there is also a strong family tradition that they were born in Scotland, > > or at least lived there - James is supposed to have kept his Scots accent > > all his life and his childre! > > n and grandchildren were named more or less according to the traditional > > Scots naming scheme. Which should help us find his parents, but it > > doesn't... > > > > My line descends from James' grandson James Douglas McConnell who > > emigrated to Australia in 1878 along with several of his brothers, so there > > is quite a large family presence in Australia." > > > > With conventional research at a standstill, Belinda asked her cousin > > Keith McConnell to take a Y-chromosome DNA test, and he joined the Scotland > > DNA project at Family Tree DNA last year with a 37 marker test. Along with > > his cheek swab samples, Keith submitted his signed copy of the consent form > > allowing his contact information to be shared with any men with matching > > results who had also consented to the sharing of such information. Keith > > and Belinda agreed that Belinda would be the first contact for researchers > > with matching results. > > > > When Keith's results came in during June, 2006, everything was set up > > for Belinda to access information about Keith's matches. She just needed to > > make a few choices about which matches to display first. She could look at > > matches and near matches on 12, 25, or 37 markers. Once she was in the Clan > > Donald project, she could also choose whether or not to confine the display > > to matches within the project. > > > > Belinda did not want to miss any of Keith's matches, so she chose to > > display all of them. When she did this she found out that Keith had > > HUNDREDS of exact matches with the 12 and 25 marker results for other > > men! He also had a large number of near matches at the 37 marker level. > > > > How could Keith have so many matches, and how closely related are these > > men likely to be? How could Belinda sort through these matches to find the > > best prospects to contact? Answers to these questions will be posted later > > this weekend. > > > > Important Note: > > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > > above and respond on the board. > > > > > > > > > > > > ********* > > Visit the threaded archives of this list: > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/MCCONNELL > > ********* > > Messages posted to the RootsWeb/Ancestry MCCONNELL Message Board are > > gatewayed to this Mailing List. 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Hi Kisten What a lovely name my grand daughter is also called Kirsten she wont let anyone call her Kirsty. Thank you very much for passing my information on to Belinda .Yes i heard back from her .thank you Kind regards jean ----- Original Message ----- From: "kirswill" <kirswill@chesapeakenet.com> To: <mcconnell@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 10:51 PM Subject: Re: [McConnell] McConnell DNA: Belinda's Brick Wall > Jean, > > Thank you for your response to my post. You may already have heard from > Belinda; I think that she has been monitoring the list and/or the message > board. In case she is not, I just forwarded your message to her. I hope > that > you and Belinda have a mutually beneficial exchange of information. > > Kirsten > > On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 14:48:13 +1000, jean old wrote >> Hi >> My gg grandfather was Robert McConnell he was born 1867 in Donegal >> his father was William they did go to live in Scotland sorry to say >> i dont know if they had any siblings regards Jean (Australia) >> >> On 7/14/07, gc-gateway@rootsweb.com <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> wrote: >> > >> > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. >> > >> > Author: ksaxe >> > Surnames: McConnell >> > Classification: queries >> > >> > Message Board URL: >> > >> > http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.mcconnell/2466/mb.ashx >> > >> > Message Board Post: >> > >> > ***** >> > >> > Belinda Dettmann is an avid Australian genealogist who hit a brick >> > wall >> > researching her ggg grandfather James McConnell. As an adult, James >> > lived >> > in England, but Belinda found census entries which say that James was >> > born >> > in Scotland about 1801. Belinda described her research beyond the >> > census as >> > follows: >> > >> > "James McConnell moved to Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, where he was >> > a >> > warehouseman, then foreman in an iron foundry. He married a local girl >> > in >> > 1820 and lived there until his death in 1868, having at least 8 >> > children and >> > lots of descendants. In the 1851 and 1861 census his unmarried sister >> > Jean >> > McConnell (also b Scotland in 1811 or 1812) was living with the >> > family. This ought to be enough for me to identify his Scottish roots, >> > but >> > it hasn't so far. I've investigated half a dozen possibilities to date >> > in >> > the Scottish PRs [parish registers], and they either turn out to be >> > impossible, or have insufficient data to decide. There is a family >> > legend >> > that there were Irish roots way back, and it's been suggested that he >> > might >> > have been born in Ireland and been ashamed to admit it. This could be >> > so >> > but there is also a strong family tradition that they were born in >> > Scotland, >> > or at least lived there - James is supposed to have kept his Scots >> > accent >> > all his life and his childre! >> > n and grandchildren were named more or less according to the >> > traditional >> > Scots naming scheme. Which should help us find his parents, but it >> > doesn't... >> > >> > My line descends from James' grandson James Douglas McConnell who >> > emigrated to Australia in 1878 along with several of his brothers, so >> > there >> > is quite a large family presence in Australia." >> > >> > With conventional research at a standstill, Belinda asked her cousin >> > Keith McConnell to take a Y-chromosome DNA test, and he joined the >> > Scotland >> > DNA project at Family Tree DNA last year with a 37 marker test. Along >> > with >> > his cheek swab samples, Keith submitted his signed copy of the consent >> > form >> > allowing his contact information to be shared with any men with >> > matching >> > results who had also consented to the sharing of such information. >> > Keith >> > and Belinda agreed that Belinda would be the first contact for >> > researchers >> > with matching results. >> > >> > When Keith's results came in during June, 2006, everything was set up >> > for Belinda to access information about Keith's matches. She just >> > needed to >> > make a few choices about which matches to display first. She could >> > look at >> > matches and near matches on 12, 25, or 37 markers. Once she was in the >> > Clan >> > Donald project, she could also choose whether or not to confine the >> > display >> > to matches within the project. >> > >> > Belinda did not want to miss any of Keith's matches, so she chose to >> > display all of them. When she did this she found out that Keith had >> > HUNDREDS of exact matches with the 12 and 25 marker results for other >> > men! He also had a large number of near matches at the 37 marker >> > level. >> > >> > How could Keith have so many matches, and how closely related are >> > these >> > men likely to be? How could Belinda sort through these matches to find >> > the >> > best prospects to contact? Answers to these questions will be posted >> > later >> > this weekend. >> > >> > Important Note: >> > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you >> > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link >> > above and respond on the board. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ********* >> > Visit the threaded archives of this list: >> > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/MCCONNELL >> > ********* >> > Messages posted to the RootsWeb/Ancestry MCCONNELL Message Board are >> > gatewayed to this Mailing List. 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Jean, You're welcome! Thank you for the kind words. I hope you and Belinda have a productive exchange of information. Best regards, Kirsten On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 13:17:29 +1000, jean old wrote > Hi Kisten > What a lovely name my grand daughter is also called Kirsten she wont > let anyone call her Kirsty. Thank you very much for passing my > information on to Belinda .Yes i heard back from her .thank you Kind > regards jean > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "kirswill" <kirswill@chesapeakenet.com> > To: <mcconnell@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 10:51 PM > Subject: Re: [McConnell] McConnell DNA: Belinda's Brick Wall > > > Jean, > > > > Thank you for your response to my post. You may already have heard from > > Belinda; I think that she has been monitoring the list and/or the message > > board. In case she is not, I just forwarded your message to her. I hope > > that > > you and Belinda have a mutually beneficial exchange of information. > > > > Kirsten > > > > On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 14:48:13 +1000, jean old wrote > >> Hi > >> My gg grandfather was Robert McConnell he was born 1867 in Donegal > >> his father was William they did go to live in Scotland sorry to say > >> i dont know if they had any siblings regards Jean (Australia) > >> > >> On 7/14/07, gc-gateway@rootsweb.com <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> wrote: > >> > > >> > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > >> > > >> > Author: ksaxe > >> > Surnames: McConnell > >> > Classification: queries > >> > > >> > Message Board URL: > >> > > >> > http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.mcconnell/2466/mb.ashx > >> > > >> > Message Board Post: > >> > > >> > ***** > >> > > >> > Belinda Dettmann is an avid Australian genealogist who hit a brick > >> > wall > >> > researching her ggg grandfather James McConnell. As an adult, James > >> > lived > >> > in England, but Belinda found census entries which say that James was > >> > born > >> > in Scotland about 1801. Belinda described her research beyond the > >> > census as > >> > follows: > >> > > >> > "James McConnell moved to Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, where he was > >> > a > >> > warehouseman, then foreman in an iron foundry. He married a local girl > >> > in > >> > 1820 and lived there until his death in 1868, having at least 8 > >> > children and > >> > lots of descendants. In the 1851 and 1861 census his unmarried sister > >> > Jean > >> > McConnell (also b Scotland in 1811 or 1812) was living with the > >> > family. This ought to be enough for me to identify his Scottish roots, > >> > but > >> > it hasn't so far. I've investigated half a dozen possibilities to date > >> > in > >> > the Scottish PRs [parish registers], and they either turn out to be > >> > impossible, or have insufficient data to decide. There is a family > >> > legend > >> > that there were Irish roots way back, and it's been suggested that he > >> > might > >> > have been born in Ireland and been ashamed to admit it. This could be > >> > so > >> > but there is also a strong family tradition that they were born in > >> > Scotland, > >> > or at least lived there - James is supposed to have kept his Scots > >> > accent > >> > all his life and his childre! > >> > n and grandchildren were named more or less according to the > >> > traditional > >> > Scots naming scheme. Which should help us find his parents, but it > >> > doesn't... > >> > > >> > My line descends from James' grandson James Douglas McConnell who > >> > emigrated to Australia in 1878 along with several of his brothers, so > >> > there > >> > is quite a large family presence in Australia." > >> > > >> > With conventional research at a standstill, Belinda asked her cousin > >> > Keith McConnell to take a Y-chromosome DNA test, and he joined the > >> > Scotland > >> > DNA project at Family Tree DNA last year with a 37 marker test. Along > >> > with > >> > his cheek swab samples, Keith submitted his signed copy of the consent > >> > form > >> > allowing his contact information to be shared with any men with > >> > matching > >> > results who had also consented to the sharing of such information. > >> > Keith > >> > and Belinda agreed that Belinda would be the first contact for > >> > researchers > >> > with matching results. > >> > > >> > When Keith's results came in during June, 2006, everything was set up > >> > for Belinda to access information about Keith's matches. She just > >> > needed to > >> > make a few choices about which matches to display first. She could > >> > look at > >> > matches and near matches on 12, 25, or 37 markers. Once she was in the > >> > Clan > >> > Donald project, she could also choose whether or not to confine the > >> > display > >> > to matches within the project. > >> > > >> > Belinda did not want to miss any of Keith's matches, so she chose to > >> > display all of them. When she did this she found out that Keith had > >> > HUNDREDS of exact matches with the 12 and 25 marker results for other > >> > men! He also had a large number of near matches at the 37 marker > >> > level. > >> > > >> > How could Keith have so many matches, and how closely related are > >> > these > >> > men likely to be? How could Belinda sort through these matches to find > >> > the > >> > best prospects to contact? Answers to these questions will be posted > >> > later > >> > this weekend. > >> > > >> > Important Note: > >> > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > >> > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > >> > above and respond on the board. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > ********* > >> > Visit the threaded archives of this list: > >> > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/MCCONNELL > >> > ********* > >> > Messages posted to the RootsWeb/Ancestry MCCONNELL Message Board are > >> > gatewayed to this Mailing List. 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