This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jjearl99 Surnames: McConnell Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.mcconnell/1451.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Judy, Hopefully you still read the boards :-) I'm related through William and Jane's other son, Alexander (shown in your post as "d. 1798"). I was wondering if you'd been able to find any information further back in time from William and Jane (or even any more information about William McConnell, like a confirmation of birth/death dates or locations; or his wife Jane). Also, if you'd like anything about Alexander's line, I have it all the way to my great grandmother born in 1901. Thanks, Josh Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

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This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ksaxe Surnames: Donald, McDonald, McConnell, MacDonald, McDaniel Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.mcconnell/2469/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Relative Genetics and its partnership with Ancestry.com Relative Genetics (RG) is one of the largest DNA testing companies and offers a full range of DNA tests for genealogical purposes, including Y-DNA tests for 18, 26, and 43 markers. Like Familytree DNA (FTDNA) , they also provide upgrades to allow those who have previously tested with Relative Genetics or other testing companies to obtain results for more markers. Recently Relative Genetics and Ancestry.com announced a partnership. In the future, Ancestry.com will take over the marketing of DNA testing for Relative Genetics, and RG plans to phase out its web site before the end of this year. Most Relative Genetics customers will then access their test results and DNA matches on Ancestry.com. Customers with test results from other companies will also be allowed to add them to the database at Ancestry.com. At the moment, it is still possible for people with DNA test results from other companies to create a Relative Genetics login, input their results, and search for matches. As far as I can tell, their results become part of the RG database. If that is really true, then I hope people enter their results carefully! Most of these results from other companies will probably be moved over to the new Ancestry database. Everybody in the database will have the option of keeping their e-mail address and name private. Relative Genetics doesn't have a Clan Donald DNA project, so men interested in joining the Clan Donald DNA project through testing with Relative Genetics have not been eligible for a group discount. Prices for testing outside group projects at RG have been quite reasonable for the number of markers tested, but because RG and FTDNA's standard tests don't test for identical sets of markers, test results from RG are generally not as useful for comparison within the Clan Donald DNA project as test results from FTDNA. Results from RG are perfect for comparisons with results from the Sorenson Molecular Genealogy Foundation because both use the Sorenson Genomics lab. The Relative Genetics website states that pricing following the transition has not yet been determined and seems to suggest that there may be some changes in the tests offered. Still, it is possible to examine the possibilities for comparisons of results from the current tests at RG and FTDNA. The current RG 18 marker test includes 11 out of the 12 FTDNA 12 marker test markers. The one FTDNA 12 marker not included in the RG 18 is a slowly mutating marker that doesn't vary much within Clan Donald and so it is usually not very useful, so the RG 18 test is pretty good for making comparisons with FTDNA 12 marker results. The RG 18 also includes 2 of the markers in FTDNA's second panel, allowing RG 18 results to be compared with FTDNA 25 results on 13 of FTDNA's 25 markers. The remaining 5 markers on the RG 18 are in the FTDNA 37 marker set, allowing RG 18 results to be compared with FTDNA 37 results on 18 of the 37 markers. The RG 26 test includes all 12 of the FTDNA 12 markers, 16 of the FTDNA 25 markers, and 21 out of the FTDNA 37 markers. Another 5 markers on the RG 26 are not in FTDNA's 37 or 67 marker tests and so are not useful for comparing results without further testing of the FTDNA customers. Testing for these markers is available to previous customers of FTDNA only through FTDNA's Advanced Orders process. RG does not offer separate tests for these markers, so FTDNA customers wishing to compare their results with RG customers would probably go through FTDNA or another organization. The RG 43 test includes 12 out of 12 FTDNA 12 markers, 25 out of 25 FTDNA 25 markers, 32 out of 37 FTDNA 37 markers, 34 out of 67 FTDNA 67 markers, and 9 other markers that FTDNA offers through its Advanced Orders process. For more detailed information on the RG tests, go to http://www.relativegenetics.com/relativegenetics/tutorial/marker_comparisons.htm To find out more about go the partnership and its implications, try this RG page http://relativegenetics.com/relativegenetics/ancestry_faq.jsp and Dick Eastman's Genealogy blog http://blog.eogn.com/eastmans_online_genealogy/2007/06/dna_results_to_.html Coming up next time: Sorenson Molecular Genealogy Foundation Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ksaxe Surnames: McConnell Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.mcconnell/2468.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have also asked older relatives to take DNA tests. One was younger than your aunt, but another is many years older. I've never met this older cousin, and I expressed some concern to his daughter about his experience with the sampling process at his advanced age. She told me that he didn't mind it all and sent me a picture of the two of them dancing earlier this year. If I make it to his age and have the coordination to easily hold my mouth open for processes like DNA sampling and having my teeth cleaned at the dentist, I will count myself lucky and wonder how much of my longevity comes from my McConnell DNA. Since I have heard that mitochondrial DNA is not very useful for "recent" genealogy, I haven't yet used mitochondrial DNA for my own research, but I expect that I will someday. I hope that in the meantime scientists will discover more variations in mitochondrial DNA which genealogists can look for and compare to get more detailed information on their recent ancestry. Even if they don't find very many of these sorts of variations, I would find it interesting to learn about my mitochondrial DNA haplogroup. The mitochondrial DNA matches that you have at this time may be quite distantly related to you or simply may not have enough information about their families to know from your messages that you are closely related. If you have a common haplotype (set of test results), they may be overwhelmed by messages and this would contribute to the lack of response. If your list of matches is shorter, you may actually have a better chance of receiving responses. Like I said earlier, I am not an expert on DNA, especially mitochondrial DNA, but I would recommend that you try all of the following approaches: 1) Keep looking for new matches on your FTDNA match page. DNA testing is still very new, and it's probable that as more people test, somebody more closely related to you and your aunt than anybody tested thus far will be tested. 2) Try looking for matches using the Sorenson mitochondrial DNA database. This large database doesn't provide contact information, but once you find matching results, you can check the accompanying pedigree files for clues and look for the more promising matches on other databases like FTDNA's mitosearch. Mitosearch is comparable to Y-Search, allowing people with mt DNA test results from different companies to connect. You can also look for families in the Sorenson database on Rootsweb, Genforum, etc. 3) mt-Search can also be used to find other matches who aren't in the Sorenson database. 4) Joining geographical projects like the Scottish Clans, Scotland, Nordic and Celtic DNA, and British Isles 1 projects at FTDNA and comparable projects at Relative Genetics might help you to identify additional matches and would put you in touch with project administrators with experience in the use of mitochondrial DNA test results. 5) You may want to make some posts on genealogy boards and lists for Glasgow and surrounding areas about your aunt's participation in mt DNA testing and your interest in finding matches among others who trace their mitochondrial DNA to the region. These matches would be much more likely to be close relatives than most of your other matches. 6) Contact FTDNA about this problem. I recently had some similar concerns about lack of response by Clan Donalds with surname variants other than McConnell to messages from closely matching McConnells. It took an e-mail and a phone call, but they actually made changes to their website to alert people to the fact that surname variant matches should be treated like those with identical surnames, and this, along with posts to the McDonald and MacDonald boards, seemed to alleviate the problem within the Clan Donald DNA project. It is possible that FTDNA may be able to help those with mitochondrial DNA test results in a similar way. Jean, it must be very frustrating to receive NO responses at all from your aunt's matches. If you have questions or continue to experience a low response rate, please feel free to e-mail me and I will be happy to look at the situation more closely and see if I can help. Kirsten Mitosearch: http://www.mitosearch.org/ Sorenson database mitochondrial DNA search page: http://www.smgf.org/mtdna/search.jspx Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: JeanBrewer123 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.mcconnell/2468.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I subjected my 75 year old aunt to the DNA for McConnell women, as her grandmother was born in Glasgow Scotland in 1862, born Sarah Ann McConnell. I contacted the names on the list sent me and rec'd no answers. I still try.... everything! Jean Brewer Brewerwr@aol.com Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ksaxe Surnames: Donald, McConnell Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.mcconnell/2468/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Joining the Clan Donald DNA project with test results from other organizations In the posts I have been making related to the Clan Donald DNA project, I have mentioned Family Tree DNA (FTDNA) frequently because FTDNA is the host of the project and most of the testing done for the project is done through FTDNA. There are other testing organizations out there, though, and it is possible to join the Clan Donald DNA project with test results from those organizations. Men who already have test results from these other organizations may join by contacting one or both of the project administrators. For men who have not already been tested, there are some advantages to testing with FTDNA. Because FTDNA has been the host of the project for a long time, most of the men in the project have results for the panels of markers tested by FTDNA. Other organizations, such as Relative Genetics, the Sorenson Molecular Genealogy Foundation, and Oxford Ancestors, test some of the same markers, but they also test other markers that aren't tested by FTDNA. So results for some of the markers tested by these other organizations won't be as useful for comparison within the Clan Donald study as FTDNA markers are. Another advantage is that FTDNA offers discounted pricing to members of the projects it hosts, including the Clan Donald project. These are factors to consider when choosing a testing organization. There are also advantages to testing with some of these other organizations. To help those considering testing weigh their options and to help those who have been tested search for matches tested through the various organizations, I will profile a couple of those organizations (the ones I know enough about) separately. Kirsten Saxe, McConnell researcher Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: nigoodman41 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.mcconnell/2444.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, John E. McConnell born 1810 who is the father of John Jr. is my gggrandfather and I found a listing of the family in the 1850 census in Wilkerson Co. Georgia, their last name is spelled different I believe it is McConley and it list John E. and he is 17. My ggrandfather was born the next year so he did not make the 1850 census. His name is Washington Pink McConnell. I don't know if this is any help to you. Nigoodman41 Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: nigoodman41 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.mcconnell/2450.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have a John E. McConnell in my family, he was born in 1810 in Georgia. Someone has him as the husband of Mary McDonald on World Tree, but if they had checked the dates he would have been almost 100 years old in the year 1907. I thought I would alert you to that in case you came across the information. nigoodman41 Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ksaxe Surnames: Donald, McConnell, McDonald Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.mcconnell/2467/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Some Reasons and Ways to Use the Y-Search Database Y-Search is a public database created by Family Tree DNA to allow genealogists to share DNA test results, genealogical information, and contact information. Y-Search was designed to help genealogists with DNA test results from different companies compare their results, and so anyone with Y-DNA test results can enter them into Y-Search. In some cases, Y-Search is helpful to genealogists looking for matches who tested with the same testing company, but restricted their list of matches on the company match page. Y-Search may also be helpful to some researchers who are considering DNA testing and hope to find out whether men who may be related to them have already been tested. Because participation in Y-Search is optional, the absence of information on a particular family doesn't exclude the possibility that a family member has been tested, but a positive finding that known or potential cousins have already been tested can be very helpful to those who are on the fence about testing. Some examples: My cousin Robert McConnell has results for 37 markers and has a pretty rare haplotype. For a long time he had no matches on his match page at FTDNA. Recently I used the Search for Genetic Matches tab on Y-Search and instead of entering Robert's user ID, I chose the search by haplotype option and entered the results for Robert's first 12 markers. By looking for exact matches, I found two matches for Robert on Y-Search. Example 1 - The first match was another FTDNA customer with a surname that is not a McDonald variant. He has the same 12 marker haplotype as Robert, but he never showed up on Robert's match page, even when I set it to show 12, 25, and 37 marker matches, and to show matches outside the Clan Donald DNA project. However, the match must have had his match page set to display only matches within his surname project, or to exclude 12 marker matches. The display of matches is reciprocal; if either matching man's page restricts the display of their match, neither of the men will see it. In this case, it turns out that the match at the 25 marker level is not a very close one at all. Robert and his match only match on 19 out of the 25 markers. I haven't contacted this man, but I may try to someday, because the way the FTDNA database is set up to allow the exclusion of matches outside one's surname project, it is possible that at some point one of us may make contact with a ! 12 marker match who is a better match at 25 or more markers for the other. Example 2 - The second match had tested with Oxford Ancestors. He may have tested a long time ago; he had results posted for only 10 markers. Robert has results for 9 of those markers, and the 2 men match perfectly on those 9 markers. His match does not have a McDonald variant surname and has English ancestry, so the chance that he is related since the introduction of surnames is rather slim. However, he has shown the initiative to enter his results into Y-Search, and I think it would be a smart move for me to contact him. If there is a way for people who aren't customers of Oxford Ancestors to search their database, I don't know it, and he might be willing to keep his eyes open for another genealogist with a somewhat similar haplotype. If we had a really common haplotype, I would have to hope for a much closer match within the Oxford Ancestors database to help me in this way, but with our rare haplotype, this man is probably not swamped with matches and so may be! willing and able to help. Question: Does anybody else know of a way for people with test results from another source to search the Oxford Ancestors database? Does Oxford Ancestors have a service similar to Y-Search? Example 3 - The researcher in this one is hypothetical, but the circumstances are real. A McConnell researcher in New York state knows that his family lived in the area around the Finger Lakes and Southern Tier regions of the state. His research shows that there are multiple McConnell families who lived in these areas and that they may or may not be related to his family. He knows that at least one of these families came from Pennsylvania and one from the area of Orange County, NY and northwestern NJ. By searching Y-Search for the surname McConnell, he finds four entries for men who trace their lines to Pennsylvania, one for a man who traces his line to northwestern NJ, and a number of entries which don't specify where family members have lived during the last 250 years. Two of the Pennsylvania Y-Search entries are especially tantalizing. They are both for descendants of the PA family which has a branch in the Seneca County/Finger Lakes region. If he checks for genetic matches of the man who traces his line to Morris County, NJ, he will find a close match for that individual. So this man will know that if he tests, he will be able to compare results with men from at least 2 different families that may be related without having to recruit anybody else to test. If he contacts any of these individuals through Y-Search, or looks for their posts on Rootsweb and Genforum, he will find additional information. In fact, if he can trace his line to the Pennsylvania family, he will be very encouraged to know that the PA line researchers are actively seeking a third member of their family to test. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

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This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ksaxe Surnames: McDonald, MacDonald, McDaniel, McConnell, Donaldson, MacConnell, Donald, McDonnell, Donnell, MacDonnell, McDanold, McDanolds, MacKinnell, Kinnell, MacOnill, MacWhannel, and Whannell Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.mcconnell/2466.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: How Robert, Belinda, and others can narrow down long lists of matches One technique that Robert and Belinda have in effect already used is to make sure that they have results for enough markers to narrow things down. With Robert's results for 67 markers and Keith's results for 37 markers, they are able to compare results for at least 37 markers with others who have results for the same markers. Belinda recently reported that Keith's closest matches at the 37 level were 9 35 for 37 matches, and she was able to check out all of those matches, although none have led to any breakthroughs for her so far. Keith also has 34 for 37 matches with 35 men, and a lot more 33 for 37 matches. That is a lot of matches to check out, and one of the first things that Belinda should do to narrow down the list is to restrict it to matches with McDonald surname variants. Two ways to find some of those types of matches quickly are to use the project tables or use Keith's match page at FTDNA to display only those matches within the Clan Donald project first. Belinda reported that she didn't have very many McDonald-type name matches at the 37 marker level, and that she has just 6 at the 25 marker level. Of course, most or all of those 25 marker matches will be with people who also match Keith at the 37 marker level, so the list is now down to a much more manageable size. She may even find that the list of McDonald-type matches at the 12 marker level is also short enough to make contacting those individuals practical. Some of the closer matches that Robert and Belinda have found within that Clan Donald project are with individuals whose names are not variants of McDonald. My recommendation is that they attempt to contact these individuals. The fact that they joined the Clan Donald project may be a sign that they do not match other men with their surnames, and they may in fact be relatives whose lines include non-paternity events. Keith's closest match within the project is a very close match to a McKeen. This is not normally a McDonald name variant, although in this case one wonders if the name was changed just a little more than usual over time. Belinda and Robert may possibly find a handful of individuals who match them at the 25 marker level and have results for 37 markers, but do not match them at the 37 marker level. Some authorities would probably advise that they ignore these particular matches, but based on a recent example within the Clan Donald study, I would recommend contacting ALL of the 25 marker matches with McDonald type names. Two cousins, each with paper trails back to a common ancestor, joined the project and matched on 33 of 37 markers, which would normally cause them to be listed as 33 for 37 marker matches of each other on their match pages. However, one of those mismatches was 3-step mismatch, i.e. their values at that marker differed by 3, and this caused them not to be listed as matches of each other. It turns out that that marker is a faster-mutating marker, and Doug McDonald confirmed that this sort of mismatch is somewhat improbable, but not extremely unlikely. To me, it makes more! sense to contact another 1 or 2 people than it does to risk missing such a connection. There are many McDonald surname variants and there are men with these surnames who have been tested outside the Clan Donald project. Those who were tested through FTDNA and chose to have matches set against the entire database can be found using the FTDNA match page. Robert and Belinda would just need to set the page to display matches from the entire database to find these. It makes sense to check back from time to time, to find newly tested men, men who only recently learned about the Clan Donald project, and others who may not have had their match pages set up for Clan Donald matches. Of course, it is important to be able to recognize the many variants of McDonald. Using the Clan Donald USA general and DNA project websites, the FTDNA website, and records from the area where my McConnell ancestors lived, I came up with a very long list. You can make it longer by changing or omitting "Mc" and "Mac", singling or doubling "n"s and "l"s, and changing some vowels. The! names are listed roughly in order of frequency of use, with most of the names/spellings at the end of the list being quite rare: McDonald, MacDonald, McDaniel, McConnell, Donaldson, MacConnell, Donald, McDonnell, Donnell, MacDonnell, McDanold, McDanolds, MacKinnell, Kinnell, MacOnill, MacWhannel, and Whannell Some FTDNA customers will not have their match pages set to allow them to be found in this way. In some cases it may be possible to connect with some of these men by joining additional projects, such as the Ireland Heritage project, the Scotland project, the Great Britain 2 project, or the Fraser (clan) project. Another way to connect with men in other projects, and some men who were tested through other testing companies, is to use other databases, such as Y-Search (http://www.ysearch.org/), the Sorenson database (http://www.smgf.org/ychromosome/search.jspx), and the Relative Genetics database (http://www.relativegenetics.com/relativegenetics/surname_landing.jsp). 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Hi Kisten What a lovely name my grand daughter is also called Kirsten she wont let anyone call her Kirsty. Thank you very much for passing my information on to Belinda .Yes i heard back from her .thank you Kind regards jean ----- Original Message ----- From: "kirswill" <kirswill@chesapeakenet.com> To: <mcconnell@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 10:51 PM Subject: Re: [McConnell] McConnell DNA: Belinda's Brick Wall > Jean, > > Thank you for your response to my post. You may already have heard from > Belinda; I think that she has been monitoring the list and/or the message > board. In case she is not, I just forwarded your message to her. I hope > that > you and Belinda have a mutually beneficial exchange of information. > > Kirsten > > On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 14:48:13 +1000, jean old wrote >> Hi >> My gg grandfather was Robert McConnell he was born 1867 in Donegal >> his father was William they did go to live in Scotland sorry to say >> i dont know if they had any siblings regards Jean (Australia) >> >> On 7/14/07, gc-gateway@rootsweb.com <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> wrote: >> > >> > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. >> > >> > Author: ksaxe >> > Surnames: McConnell >> > Classification: queries >> > >> > Message Board URL: >> > >> > http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.mcconnell/2466/mb.ashx >> > >> > Message Board Post: >> > >> > ***** >> > >> > Belinda Dettmann is an avid Australian genealogist who hit a brick >> > wall >> > researching her ggg grandfather James McConnell. As an adult, James >> > lived >> > in England, but Belinda found census entries which say that James was >> > born >> > in Scotland about 1801. Belinda described her research beyond the >> > census as >> > follows: >> > >> > "James McConnell moved to Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, where he was >> > a >> > warehouseman, then foreman in an iron foundry. He married a local girl >> > in >> > 1820 and lived there until his death in 1868, having at least 8 >> > children and >> > lots of descendants. In the 1851 and 1861 census his unmarried sister >> > Jean >> > McConnell (also b Scotland in 1811 or 1812) was living with the >> > family. This ought to be enough for me to identify his Scottish roots, >> > but >> > it hasn't so far. I've investigated half a dozen possibilities to date >> > in >> > the Scottish PRs [parish registers], and they either turn out to be >> > impossible, or have insufficient data to decide. There is a family >> > legend >> > that there were Irish roots way back, and it's been suggested that he >> > might >> > have been born in Ireland and been ashamed to admit it. This could be >> > so >> > but there is also a strong family tradition that they were born in >> > Scotland, >> > or at least lived there - James is supposed to have kept his Scots >> > accent >> > all his life and his childre! >> > n and grandchildren were named more or less according to the >> > traditional >> > Scots naming scheme. Which should help us find his parents, but it >> > doesn't... >> > >> > My line descends from James' grandson James Douglas McConnell who >> > emigrated to Australia in 1878 along with several of his brothers, so >> > there >> > is quite a large family presence in Australia." >> > >> > With conventional research at a standstill, Belinda asked her cousin >> > Keith McConnell to take a Y-chromosome DNA test, and he joined the >> > Scotland >> > DNA project at Family Tree DNA last year with a 37 marker test. Along >> > with >> > his cheek swab samples, Keith submitted his signed copy of the consent >> > form >> > allowing his contact information to be shared with any men with >> > matching >> > results who had also consented to the sharing of such information. >> > Keith >> > and Belinda agreed that Belinda would be the first contact for >> > researchers >> > with matching results. >> > >> > When Keith's results came in during June, 2006, everything was set up >> > for Belinda to access information about Keith's matches. She just >> > needed to >> > make a few choices about which matches to display first. She could >> > look at >> > matches and near matches on 12, 25, or 37 markers. Once she was in the >> > Clan >> > Donald project, she could also choose whether or not to confine the >> > display >> > to matches within the project. >> > >> > Belinda did not want to miss any of Keith's matches, so she chose to >> > display all of them. When she did this she found out that Keith had >> > HUNDREDS of exact matches with the 12 and 25 marker results for other >> > men! He also had a large number of near matches at the 37 marker >> > level. >> > >> > How could Keith have so many matches, and how closely related are >> > these >> > men likely to be? How could Belinda sort through these matches to find >> > the >> > best prospects to contact? Answers to these questions will be posted >> > later >> > this weekend. >> > >> > Important Note: >> > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you >> > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link >> > above and respond on the board. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ********* >> > Visit the threaded archives of this list: >> > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/MCCONNELL >> > ********* >> > Messages posted to the RootsWeb/Ancestry MCCONNELL Message Board are >> > gatewayed to this Mailing List. 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Jean, You're welcome! Thank you for the kind words. I hope you and Belinda have a productive exchange of information. Best regards, Kirsten On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 13:17:29 +1000, jean old wrote > Hi Kisten > What a lovely name my grand daughter is also called Kirsten she wont > let anyone call her Kirsty. Thank you very much for passing my > information on to Belinda .Yes i heard back from her .thank you Kind > regards jean > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "kirswill" <kirswill@chesapeakenet.com> > To: <mcconnell@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 10:51 PM > Subject: Re: [McConnell] McConnell DNA: Belinda's Brick Wall > > > Jean, > > > > Thank you for your response to my post. You may already have heard from > > Belinda; I think that she has been monitoring the list and/or the message > > board. In case she is not, I just forwarded your message to her. I hope > > that > > you and Belinda have a mutually beneficial exchange of information. > > > > Kirsten > > > > On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 14:48:13 +1000, jean old wrote > >> Hi > >> My gg grandfather was Robert McConnell he was born 1867 in Donegal > >> his father was William they did go to live in Scotland sorry to say > >> i dont know if they had any siblings regards Jean (Australia) > >> > >> On 7/14/07, gc-gateway@rootsweb.com <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> wrote: > >> > > >> > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > >> > > >> > Author: ksaxe > >> > Surnames: McConnell > >> > Classification: queries > >> > > >> > Message Board URL: > >> > > >> > http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.mcconnell/2466/mb.ashx > >> > > >> > Message Board Post: > >> > > >> > ***** > >> > > >> > Belinda Dettmann is an avid Australian genealogist who hit a brick > >> > wall > >> > researching her ggg grandfather James McConnell. As an adult, James > >> > lived > >> > in England, but Belinda found census entries which say that James was > >> > born > >> > in Scotland about 1801. Belinda described her research beyond the > >> > census as > >> > follows: > >> > > >> > "James McConnell moved to Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, where he was > >> > a > >> > warehouseman, then foreman in an iron foundry. He married a local girl > >> > in > >> > 1820 and lived there until his death in 1868, having at least 8 > >> > children and > >> > lots of descendants. In the 1851 and 1861 census his unmarried sister > >> > Jean > >> > McConnell (also b Scotland in 1811 or 1812) was living with the > >> > family. This ought to be enough for me to identify his Scottish roots, > >> > but > >> > it hasn't so far. I've investigated half a dozen possibilities to date > >> > in > >> > the Scottish PRs [parish registers], and they either turn out to be > >> > impossible, or have insufficient data to decide. There is a family > >> > legend > >> > that there were Irish roots way back, and it's been suggested that he > >> > might > >> > have been born in Ireland and been ashamed to admit it. This could be > >> > so > >> > but there is also a strong family tradition that they were born in > >> > Scotland, > >> > or at least lived there - James is supposed to have kept his Scots > >> > accent > >> > all his life and his childre! > >> > n and grandchildren were named more or less according to the > >> > traditional > >> > Scots naming scheme. Which should help us find his parents, but it > >> > doesn't... > >> > > >> > My line descends from James' grandson James Douglas McConnell who > >> > emigrated to Australia in 1878 along with several of his brothers, so > >> > there > >> > is quite a large family presence in Australia." > >> > > >> > With conventional research at a standstill, Belinda asked her cousin > >> > Keith McConnell to take a Y-chromosome DNA test, and he joined the > >> > Scotland > >> > DNA project at Family Tree DNA last year with a 37 marker test. Along > >> > with > >> > his cheek swab samples, Keith submitted his signed copy of the consent > >> > form > >> > allowing his contact information to be shared with any men with > >> > matching > >> > results who had also consented to the sharing of such information. > >> > Keith > >> > and Belinda agreed that Belinda would be the first contact for > >> > researchers > >> > with matching results. > >> > > >> > When Keith's results came in during June, 2006, everything was set up > >> > for Belinda to access information about Keith's matches. She just > >> > needed to > >> > make a few choices about which matches to display first. She could > >> > look at > >> > matches and near matches on 12, 25, or 37 markers. Once she was in the > >> > Clan > >> > Donald project, she could also choose whether or not to confine the > >> > display > >> > to matches within the project. > >> > > >> > Belinda did not want to miss any of Keith's matches, so she chose to > >> > display all of them. When she did this she found out that Keith had > >> > HUNDREDS of exact matches with the 12 and 25 marker results for other > >> > men! He also had a large number of near matches at the 37 marker > >> > level. > >> > > >> > How could Keith have so many matches, and how closely related are > >> > these > >> > men likely to be? How could Belinda sort through these matches to find > >> > the > >> > best prospects to contact? Answers to these questions will be posted > >> > later > >> > this weekend. > >> > > >> > Important Note: > >> > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. 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This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ksaxe Surnames: McConnell, O'Neill Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.mcconnell/2466.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: ...and a lot of cousins The reason Keith has so many matches is that his test results (also known as personal haplotype) very closely match the DNA profile for the legendary Irish king known as Niall of the Nine Hostages. You can learn more about Niall at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niall_of_the_Nine_Hostages. One thing that I have learned about Niall is that royal privileges in his day included the chance to father many children, and those children and other descendants were also privileged and left many descendants. Research by Moore et al (http://www.journals.uchicago.edu/AJHG/journal/issues/v78n2/43032/43032.html) has shown that many Irish men share a common set of test results, or haplotype. Within any related group the most common values at each marker are known as modals and the set of those values is called the modal haplotype. The common set of modal values shared by this group of men is called the Irish modal haplotype (IMH). Because certain family names such as O'Neill are historically known to have been used by descendants of Niall, the researchers have been able to look at test results for men with these names and compare them to the IMH. Generally their results are very close the the IMH and Moore et al concluded that Niall or a very close relative originated the IMH shared by his descendants. Sharing this haplotype links Keith and Belinda to Niall and northwestern Ireland, supporting the family legend of an Irish past for their McConnell family. It also links Keith to all of the other men matching the IMH, which is also called the Niall modal haplotype. With so many men close to the Niall modal haplotype, Keith and Belinda have a LOT of distant cousins. With so many cousins, there will be some cases of the same mutations occurring in different lines. Test results in these cases will suggest that the most recent common ancestor lived somewhat later than he actually did. This phenomenon is called convergence and is one reason Keith has so many very close matches, i.e. close matches at the 37 marker level. Those men are related to Belinda and Keith, but many are more distantly related than the Time to Most Recent Common Ancestor (TMRCA) statistics suggest. In Keith's case there have either been very few mutations from the modals, or some mutations were followed by backmutations returning the affected values to the modals. All of these scenarios lead to lines which are very close to the modal values, so Keith probably has even more matches than most of the other Niall kinsmen. You can get a feel for how this sort of situation looks on the project tables by looking at the R1b green subgroup table, which includes men matching the Niall modal haplotype. When you first open the tables, you'll find that for each subgroup, the group modals are listed at the top of the chart. The men in the chart are listed in order of their proximity to the group modals. Because Keith so closely matches the modals, he is listed fourth from the top. Generally, men at the top of their tables will have more matches and men near the bottom of their tables will have fewer matches, but this is a general rule and not a rigid pattern. Belinda's situation of having so many matches to sort through is somewhat extreme, but having hundreds of matches is not extremely rare. This happens most frequently with royal lines such as those of Niall and Somerled because they are so prolific. Robert C McConnell, the Somerled descendant profiled in June, is in a somewhat similar situation. One of the men in the R1b Yellow subgroup also reports a total of over 300 matches, with 3 of those matching on 33 or more of 37 markers. For these researchers, sorting through all of these matches can be a major undertaking and making the most of their test results can be a little tricky. Fortunately, there are a number of tactics they can use to help themselves with these tasks. Techniques like these and the experiences of Belinda and Robert with some of them will be the subject of an upcoming post. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hi My gg grandfather was Robert McConnell he was born 1867 in Donegal his father was William they did go to live in Scotland sorry to say i dont know if they had any siblings regards Jean (Australia) On 7/14/07, gc-gateway@rootsweb.com <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: ksaxe > Surnames: McConnell > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.mcconnell/2466/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > ***** > > Belinda Dettmann is an avid Australian genealogist who hit a brick wall > researching her ggg grandfather James McConnell. As an adult, James lived > in England, but Belinda found census entries which say that James was born > in Scotland about 1801. Belinda described her research beyond the census as > follows: > > "James McConnell moved to Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, where he was a > warehouseman, then foreman in an iron foundry. He married a local girl in > 1820 and lived there until his death in 1868, having at least 8 children and > lots of descendants. In the 1851 and 1861 census his unmarried sister Jean > McConnell (also b Scotland in 1811 or 1812) was living with the > family. This ought to be enough for me to identify his Scottish roots, but > it hasn't so far. I've investigated half a dozen possibilities to date in > the Scottish PRs [parish registers], and they either turn out to be > impossible, or have insufficient data to decide. There is a family legend > that there were Irish roots way back, and it's been suggested that he might > have been born in Ireland and been ashamed to admit it. This could be so > but there is also a strong family tradition that they were born in Scotland, > or at least lived there - James is supposed to have kept his Scots accent > all his life and his childre! > n and grandchildren were named more or less according to the traditional > Scots naming scheme. Which should help us find his parents, but it > doesn't... > > My line descends from James' grandson James Douglas McConnell who > emigrated to Australia in 1878 along with several of his brothers, so there > is quite a large family presence in Australia." > > With conventional research at a standstill, Belinda asked her cousin > Keith McConnell to take a Y-chromosome DNA test, and he joined the Scotland > DNA project at Family Tree DNA last year with a 37 marker test. Along with > his cheek swab samples, Keith submitted his signed copy of the consent form > allowing his contact information to be shared with any men with matching > results who had also consented to the sharing of such information. Keith > and Belinda agreed that Belinda would be the first contact for researchers > with matching results. > > When Keith's results came in during June, 2006, everything was set up > for Belinda to access information about Keith's matches. She just needed to > make a few choices about which matches to display first. She could look at > matches and near matches on 12, 25, or 37 markers. Once she was in the Clan > Donald project, she could also choose whether or not to confine the display > to matches within the project. > > Belinda did not want to miss any of Keith's matches, so she chose to > display all of them. When she did this she found out that Keith had > HUNDREDS of exact matches with the 12 and 25 marker results for other > men! He also had a large number of near matches at the 37 marker level. > > How could Keith have so many matches, and how closely related are these > men likely to be? How could Belinda sort through these matches to find the > best prospects to contact? Answers to these questions will be posted later > this weekend. > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > above and respond on the board. > > > > > > ********* > Visit the threaded archives of this list: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/MCCONNELL > ********* > Messages posted to the RootsWeb/Ancestry MCCONNELL Message Board are > gatewayed to this Mailing List. Remember that the author of gatewayed > messages may not be a list subscriber so please reply to gatewayed messages > by clicking on the link and replying on the board. > ************ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MCCONNELL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Kind regards Jean

In a message dated 7/14/2007 9:00:28 AM Eastern Standard Time, kirswill@chesapeakenet.com writes: Even though I subscribe to the list, using the boards to reply to me is usually optimal since I am trying to educate McConnell researchers and researchers of other McDonald name variants about the use of DNA research and to help those who have test results make the most of them. Using the boards maximizes the number of people who see these communications, learn from them, and make connections with others. This may be particularly helpful in reaching out to those with variant names such as McDonald, who may be looking for their names in message board posts, but are less likely to be monitoring the McConnell list. However, if anybody out there is shy about making message board posts or even mailing list posts, they are welcome to e-mail me. Kirsten Saxe Kirsten- Exactly, and keeping the flow of information coming from the board to the list so that it is publicly archived for anyone to find at a later date so that they will be able to follow the thread is the main reason for the change that pretty much forces the replies to go to the board. Since you don't mind anyone contacting you privately that is ok. Those who subscribe to the list can find your email address on your direct posts to the list but those who use the board and don't belong to the list would still not be able to contact you directly because you haven't set your options to permit your email address to be accessible to board users. On the RootsWeb side to make your address accessible, you should go here: https://myaccount.rootsweb.com/ and register/login and setup a personal profile. On the Ancestry side you can set your options by going to the main Ancestry page: http://www.ancestry.com/ and clicking the Ancestry Community link on that page and then clicking the link that says My Site Preferences. This will allow you to set your email address so that others may contact you directly if they prefer. Right now, if anyone clicks on your username on the boards all they see is: "ksaxe has chosen to use Ancestry’s connection service to remain anonymous. The connection service is a premium service from Ancestry, which requires basic membership with a minimal subscription fee." Joan ************************************** Get a sneak peak of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

Joan, Thank you for this reminder to the list about using the message board links for replies to message board posts. Even though I subscribe to the list, using the boards to reply to me is usually optimal since I am trying to educate McConnell researchers and researchers of other McDonald name variants about the use of DNA research and to help those who have test results make the most of them. Using the boards maximizes the number of people who see these communications, learn from them, and make connections with others. This may be particularly helpful in reaching out to those with variant names such as McDonald, who may be looking for their names in message board posts, but are less likely to be monitoring the McConnell list. However, if anybody out there is shy about making message board posts or even mailing list posts, they are welcome to e-mail me. Kirsten Saxe On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 00:53:35 EDT, JYoung6180 wrote > Please don't forget that when a list message comes through from the > message board gateway, the poster is probably not subscribed to the > list and won't see your reply if posted directly to the list. Also, > remember that the generic gc-gateway address can't be used to > reply by email to the board poster. That address will only bounce. > > The proper way to reply to a gatewayed message is to click the link > in the gateway post and reply ON THE BOARD. That way the board > poster will see the reply and it will come through the gateway back > to the list -- so everyone will see it. > > Thanks! > > Joan, admin > > ************************************** Get a sneak peak of the all- > new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > > ********* > Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/MCCONNELL > ********* > Messages posted to the RootsWeb/Ancestry MCCONNELL Message Board are > gatewayed to this Mailing List. Remember that the author of > gatewayed messages may not be a list subscriber so please reply to > gatewayed messages by clicking on the link and replying on the > board. ************ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MCCONNELL- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message -- Open WebMail Project (http://openwebmail.org)

Jean, Thank you for your response to my post. You may already have heard from Belinda; I think that she has been monitoring the list and/or the message board. In case she is not, I just forwarded your message to her. I hope that you and Belinda have a mutually beneficial exchange of information. Kirsten On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 14:48:13 +1000, jean old wrote > Hi > My gg grandfather was Robert McConnell he was born 1867 in Donegal > his father was William they did go to live in Scotland sorry to say > i dont know if they had any siblings regards Jean (Australia) > > On 7/14/07, gc-gateway@rootsweb.com <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > > > Author: ksaxe > > Surnames: McConnell > > Classification: queries > > > > Message Board URL: > > > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.mcconnell/2466/mb.ashx > > > > Message Board Post: > > > > ***** > > > > Belinda Dettmann is an avid Australian genealogist who hit a brick wall > > researching her ggg grandfather James McConnell. As an adult, James lived > > in England, but Belinda found census entries which say that James was born > > in Scotland about 1801. Belinda described her research beyond the census as > > follows: > > > > "James McConnell moved to Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, where he was a > > warehouseman, then foreman in an iron foundry. He married a local girl in > > 1820 and lived there until his death in 1868, having at least 8 children and > > lots of descendants. In the 1851 and 1861 census his unmarried sister Jean > > McConnell (also b Scotland in 1811 or 1812) was living with the > > family. This ought to be enough for me to identify his Scottish roots, but > > it hasn't so far. I've investigated half a dozen possibilities to date in > > the Scottish PRs [parish registers], and they either turn out to be > > impossible, or have insufficient data to decide. There is a family legend > > that there were Irish roots way back, and it's been suggested that he might > > have been born in Ireland and been ashamed to admit it. This could be so > > but there is also a strong family tradition that they were born in Scotland, > > or at least lived there - James is supposed to have kept his Scots accent > > all his life and his childre! > > n and grandchildren were named more or less according to the traditional > > Scots naming scheme. Which should help us find his parents, but it > > doesn't... > > > > My line descends from James' grandson James Douglas McConnell who > > emigrated to Australia in 1878 along with several of his brothers, so there > > is quite a large family presence in Australia." > > > > With conventional research at a standstill, Belinda asked her cousin > > Keith McConnell to take a Y-chromosome DNA test, and he joined the Scotland > > DNA project at Family Tree DNA last year with a 37 marker test. Along with > > his cheek swab samples, Keith submitted his signed copy of the consent form > > allowing his contact information to be shared with any men with matching > > results who had also consented to the sharing of such information. Keith > > and Belinda agreed that Belinda would be the first contact for researchers > > with matching results. > > > > When Keith's results came in during June, 2006, everything was set up > > for Belinda to access information about Keith's matches. She just needed to > > make a few choices about which matches to display first. She could look at > > matches and near matches on 12, 25, or 37 markers. Once she was in the Clan > > Donald project, she could also choose whether or not to confine the display > > to matches within the project. > > > > Belinda did not want to miss any of Keith's matches, so she chose to > > display all of them. When she did this she found out that Keith had > > HUNDREDS of exact matches with the 12 and 25 marker results for other > > men! He also had a large number of near matches at the 37 marker level. > > > > How could Keith have so many matches, and how closely related are these > > men likely to be? How could Belinda sort through these matches to find the > > best prospects to contact? Answers to these questions will be posted later > > this weekend. > > > > Important Note: > > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > > above and respond on the board. > > > > > > > > > > > > ********* > > Visit the threaded archives of this list: > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/MCCONNELL > > ********* > > Messages posted to the RootsWeb/Ancestry MCCONNELL Message Board are > > gatewayed to this Mailing List. 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