Folks, Before we start flaming each other over this lets all cool off. First as a general rule surname lists really should be limited to the topic at hand. Though naturally other topics do appear from time to time. Some of those are acceptable, such as, how to access different data bases or work a specific feature on some program like FTM (family tree maker) which many on the list might have knowledge of. Second, personal opinions such as politics and religious views might offend others. There are several groups about which I have no desire to hear from. And I am quite sure that many folks have similar feelings. Third, before we cast a stone at anyone for making what someone else feels is an inappropriate post, lets stop and think. Have you ever sent a personal post to the list by mistake? Have you ever not changed the topic line on a post? Have you ever typed in all capitals or all small letters? Have you sent a message with an unreadable background? There are hundreds of violations daily of netiquette . Unless someone continuously flaunts the rules and conventions of this (or any other) list I think calls for banning are unjustifiably harsh. So lets, all get back to beating our heads against our brickwalls. terri