Gloria, As near as we know our John never lived in Pennsylvannia. He was supposedly born in Virginia in 1798. His wife was born and raised in Culpepper Co. Virginia and that is where we beleive the marriage took place. We know that John resided in Ohio in the 1830's since some of his children were born there. And he is buried in Morgan co. That is not to say that prior to his marriage or maybe for a year or so he might not have lived in Pennsylvannia. But with the spacing of his children and the early date of his death I don't think that he was in Pennsylvannia There is the possibility that he is a nephew of Pauls. It is hard to say since so far I have had no luck at all with the line beyond John. I am begining to wonder if he just named himself McCarty? Actually I have a few clues such as his supposed participation in the war of 1812. He seems to be a little young for service but who knows? terri