Correction for that date of John McCarty's Emigration. Should have been mid 17th century, I inadvertantly put 1617, which would have prerdated his birth. IAs I recall it was the later part of the 1660's. Still searching for the information as it was verifiable through ships records. Thought I had saved it but it was likely part of the data I lost in the first big crash due to a computer virus. A large part of my research fell victim to that crash as it damaged both my main drive and the backup drive was wiped out by the technician inadvertantly when he attempted to format the virus infected main drive. What orriginally held my interest was a search for the sourse of the Harmon as a given name in many of my ancestors. Those who descended from Jeremiah McCarty and Malinda Kilgore. Although I have much on the Kilgores and related families the only verifiable anticedant I have for him is Abner and Lora who are his parents. Abner shows to be born in 1798 in NC, which could as well be Tennessee given the year of his birth. Although I suspect he is the eldest son Of John McCarty, son of Nicholas McCarty of the early settlement at Falls of the Ohio (Louisville KY) I have as yet no solid proof of this. As for that particular Nicholas as you ppoint out in your information he is in all likelyhood related to that John McCarty of Bucks County P{A and most likely The earlier Nicholas. (Note that one of his sons is Benjamin and another Thomas. Also present among Jeremiah's children is the name Harlin, which could also be a family name. I note here that the name Harmon has a possible connection through Abner's wife Lora whose maiden name I have as yet not found. But it is possible that she is a Harmon or Harman, which is an anglization of the German Hermann. This likelyhood comes from the Harman brothers who established the hunting station known as Harman's Station in what is now Johnson County KY which neighbors on Magoffin County and of which Magoffin County was, in part, formed/ The Area where Jeremiah and Malinda settled in !844 was then in Floyd County but about 30 miles from the old Harmons station near presentday Paintsville, KY. Harmons station was an important first incursion into that region and was the site of the first settlement Circa 1781. And the battle with the indians from which John Wiley's wife Jenny was Kidnapped and by indians. She later escaped or was releaseed and found her way back. There is a state park in the area which is named for her. This family too is tied into Nicholas McCarty's descendants through a grand son through Richard, John McCarty of Johnson County. This coomes from John Elsey's History of Harman's Station, which traces this family, his McCarty Roots (His mother's family) He places John as Captain Richard McCarty's son and States that Richard is the son of Nicholas McCarty (Possibly that Nicholas of Bucks County but the family is also associuated with Fairfax where Richard is said to have been a vestryman in the same church as G. Washington there.) Whether he is a Brother or a son of the Nicholas in the Louisville area is unclear, but this Richard seems not to have been present at the Falls of the Ohio settlement as John Elsey incorrectly assumes, but that he is related seems most certain. This is a key piece because this might well tie the Virginia families and the Carolina Families quite closely to the Bucks County PA families. Elsy also associates Richard and his son to Scott County Va, but he states that Richard has a son Wiley from whom John is descended, while I believe that Wiley and John Wiley are one and the same person. The funeral card on John Wiley shows his name as Wileey and this might have led Elsey to the wrong conclusion. What is clear is that THis group is methodist by the time they arrive in KY and Jeremiah's family is Baptist, though situated only a few miles away at very nearly corresponding ated of settlement. As you can well see geography is closely linked in all the various branches of these families. This could be coincidental but when taken in hand with the similarities between the given names of the offspring and the distinctly similar way in which these families chooose names for their children then there is stron eevidence to conclude that they are in fact branches the same family within a generation or two of when they first show up in the colonies. Steve Patton.