I too used to copy the page before and the page after but I did it to compare other names in my list with the names on the three pages. Now that so much of the census images are online I just go there (Ancestry costs and I'm a subscriber BUT SK makes their images for 1860 available to Roots for every county they finish). Trick is... I search every name there from page to page to make certain I don't miss anything. I keep notes to be certain I know exactly what I've read and what I haven't. NOTE: Don't trust the indexes from AIS, I've found lots they missed or didn't transcribe correctly because they didn't know what the Double S looked like in old script. If I look for myself I have no one to blame if I mess up and miss someone. If I had to go to the library and do this on Microfilm it wouldn't be feasible for me but this way is great. Ron Valorie Zimmerman wrote: > > Well, I joined the Primitive Baptist list, and put my query out there. > Who should give me the best clue I've gotten for a year or two, but > Gwen? I always copy the census page before and after the one entry I'm > looking for, but this William McBee is TWO pages away. As Gwen and I > discussed, if this is indeed the William McBee that I'm looking for, in > 1880 he is alive, well, and remarried. So perhaps Samuel was apprenticed > to Jim Woodward? > > I still have heard nothing about the Bunch-McBee connection, but I've > joined the Melungeon list, where I understand they have been recently > discussing Bunches. So off to write a new, better query, thanks to Gwen! > > Valorie > > PS: Anybody connected to William, Mannilia, Frances, Elijah, or Sarah? > It is a bit suspicious that there is another William, but he could be > the son of Mannillia, by a first husband? -v > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: McBee > Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 19:25:00 -0800 > From: "Gwen Boyer Bjorkman" <gwenbj@seanet.com> > To: "Valorie Zimmerman" <valoriez@zimres.net> > > Hi Valorie: > > Saw your query and just wondered if you had seen the 1880 census where > it > says that the father of your Samuel McBee was b. in KY? Maybe it's a > mistake?? > > 1880 Census Place: Clay, Harrison, Missouri > Source: FHL Film 1254688 National Archives Film T9-0688 Page 4D > Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace > Samuel MC BEE Self M M W 29 MO > Occ: Engineer Fa: KY Mo: MO > Nancy MC BEE Wife F M W 19 MO > Occ: Keeping House Fa: KY Mo: KY > > Is this your William? > 1880 Census Place: Clay, Harrison, Missouri > Source: FHL Film 1254688 National Archives Film T9-0688 Page 6D > Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace > William MC BEE Self M M W 55 TN > Occ: Farmer Fa: TN Mo: TN > Mannilia MC BEE Wife F M W 47 TN > Occ: Keeping House Fa: TN Mo: NC > Frances M. MC BEE Son M S W 17 MO > Occ: At Home Fa: TN Mo: TN > Elijah M. MC BEE Son M S W 15 MO > Occ: At Home Fa: TN Mo: TN > Sarah A. MC BEE Dau F S W 12 MO > Fa: TN Mo: TN > William MC BEE Son M S W 10 MO > Fa: TN Mo: TN > > I do not see Jim Woodward, but there are other Woodwards in Cainesville > in > 1880. > > Gwen Boyer Bjorkman > gwenbj@seanet.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: Valorie Zimmerman [mailto:valoriez@zimres.net] > Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 12:13 PM > To: gwenbj@seanet.com > Source: PRIMITIVE-BAPTIST-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [Primitive-Baptists] McBEE & Bunch in Big Spring Prim. Bap. > 1830s > Claiborne Co. TN > > Ramona Bayes Woods wrote: > > > > Hi Everyone, > > I would like to welcome you all to the Primitive Baptist Roots list. > > I started the list and board in memory of my Cousin Anthony Sturgill s/o > William Sturgill and Bea Rose Sturgill who died last year at age 32. > > The Sturgill family of Grayson Co. VA have long been members of the > Primitive Baptist Church; therefore my interest. May we get aquainted > and > everyone tell us a bit about your interest in the Church? > > Thanks for starting this list, Ramona. I've found not only McBees, but > also Bunches mentioned in the MINUTES OF BIG SPRING PRIMITIVE BAPTIST > CHURCH (Claiborne County, TN 1830s). The gggrandfather who seems to have > landed somewhere in the southern US with aliens was named William Bunch > McBee, so I'm hoping to find some evidence of his birth, and information > about his parents. > > Here's part of an old query. This is what I know (or suspect): > > My grandfather's Harvey Elmer McBEE's paternal grandfather William Bunch > McBee [came to America from Dublin, Ireland, but there is a possibility > that he was Scottish. -this part may be HOOEY!] > > Great-grandfather Samuel McBee and his wife Nancy Jane Booth McBee are > buried in the Fairview Cemetery, also know as the old "Booth Cememtery" > near Cainsville, Missouri [Harrison Co. MO],... [and also William Bunch > McBee, his grandfather] -- I've never seen any of the gravestones, or > even pictures. > > Samuel was born in MO in Feb 1852, and raised by Jim Woodward, of > Cainsville, Missouri, until he was 18, and Woodward then started Samuel > up with the Old Boer's Nest Mill, west of Cainsville, Missouri. He > continued running the sawmill in Missouri and southern Iowa until he > became feeble, then Sidney, his son, [my grandfather's older brother] > took the mill over. Samuel and Nancy Jane lived out their later lives in > Cool, Warren Co. Iowa, ... It is quite likely that Samuel's parents > [William & Mary Ellen] died young since he was raised by Jim > Woodward..... > > Sidney's grandparents on his father's side were William Bunch McBee and > Mary Ellen Robeson (we do not know the birth or death dates). William > was supposedly a violinist in Dublin, Ireland, and he may have taught > music. Mary was of Irish descent, and after her death William remarried > and lived in Cainsville at the time of his death. [When and where did > she die, and where is she buried? I have nothing but a name. I have no > records mentioning either William or Mary Ellen.] > > Besides the possibility of a BUNCH - McBEE connection, I'd like to find > out more out Jim Woodward, and whether he was a connection from > Claiborne Co. TN, also. > > Valorie > > ==== MCBEE Mailing List ==== > To Unsubscribe: Click on <mailto:McBee-L-request@rootsweb.com> to create > a new message with UNSUBSCRIBE as the *only* text in the message, and as > the subject. Contact Valorie <mailto:McBee-admin@rootsweb.com> with any > questions, list problems, or virus warnings. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237