Nelda, Finally located the other set of Goins. Take a look and let me now what you think. http://www.charleston.net/diaspora/feature.html ----- Original Message ----- From: MITCHELL XAVIER Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 12:06 PM To: MCBEE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [McBEE] McBee/Goins Sending again, with additions, because the first one appeared to not have made it. I received a "failed delivery" status. ----- Original Message ----- From: Nelda Percival Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 11:32 PM To: MCBEE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [McBEE] McBee/Goins Hi, Is your first name Mitchell or Xavier? I have more questions. Xavier is my first name. I. ggg grandmother (name?) I. Vardry McBee (1775-1864) I don't how many others the above two produced, but I know they produced my II. gg grandmother - last name was Goins (first name?) QUESTION: WAS THIS LADY FREE OR A SLAVE? COULD SHE HAVE BEEN SOLD TO THE GOIN(s) FAMILY? HOW DID SHE GET THE LAST NAME OF GOINs? I don't think she was sold even though some "masters" did sell their offspring. I'm assuming the name came from this guy (and I believe they were married) whom my mother said "looked like an Hasidic Jew". When she died, at an extremely early age, she left two very young girls and this fellow "disappeared". He could have been murdered, had amnesia, just left them on purpose, etc. Another puzzle. III. g grandmother - Annie Elizabeth Goins (1886-1951) sister - Mary Goins QUESTION/STATEMENT: Annie Goins, 1886-1951 born in Greenville, South Carolina., became Annie Jones after marriage. DO YOU KNOW THE HUSBANDS NAME AND BIRTH INFO? OR WHEN THEY MARRIED?...DUE TO DATES ANNIE WOULD HAVE BEEN BORN FREE, COULD HER MOTHER HAVE CHOSEN THE NAME GOINs? Yes, Annie was born free. Her husband was Wilton Jones. I don't know the date of their marriage nor his birth date. They had to have been married circa 1908 or 1909 because my grandmother was born 1910. Wilton was not a good man for he left his young wife and daughter. The black man, (during slavery) was robbed of his manhood. He had no say so with his wife and children because what master said was the law. He was not the man of his house. This station in life can effect generation after generation after generation in a very bad way. I have no idea nor excuse why men (from all groups of people) leave their families now. Every group has its share of broken homes with fathers leaving. IV. grandmother - Azerine Elizabeth (1910-1993) only child QUESTION: AZERINE WAS BORN A JONES? WHO DID SHE MARRY? Yes, she was born a Jones and married Wendle Steele. DO YOU WANT ME TO SEND THE CUPP/MCBEE & CUPP/GOIN & FULL GOINs LINE TO MCBEE MAILING LIST OR TO YOU PERSONALLY. There is a web page for the Goins someone sent. I have been searching but have been unable to locate it. It mentioned this set was from Charleston, SC and were never enslaved. Many, many could "pass" and did. They were all the colors of the rainbow as black families are. Send it to mailing list or personally. Many thanks for your comments, information, and support. Xavier _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ==== MCBEE Mailing List ==== Need help writing *excellent* queries? Check out http://www.ancestry.com/library/view/news/articles/503.asp ============================== Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 Source for Family History Online. Go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1237 ==== MCBEE Mailing List ==== To Unsubscribe: Click on <mailto:McBee-L-request@rootsweb.com> to create a new message with UNSUBSCRIBE as the *only* text in the message, and as the subject. Contact Valorie <mailto:McBee-admin@rootsweb.com> with any questions, list problems, or virus warnings. ============================== Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 Source for Family History Online. Go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1237
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: McBee Classification: Census Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/HNz.2ACEB/471 Message Board Post: 1880 Census Place: Clay, Harrison, Missouri Source: FHL Film 1254688 National Archives Film T9-0688 Page 4D Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace Samuel MC BEE Self M M W 29 MO Occ: Engineer Fa: KY Mo: MO Nancy MC BEE Wife F M W 19 MO Occ: Keeping House Fa: KY Mo: KY 1880 Census Place: Clay, Harrison, Missouri Source: FHL Film 1254688 National Archives Film T9-0688 Page 6D Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace William MC BEE Self M M W 55 TN Occ: Farmer Fa: TN Mo: TN Mannilia MC BEE Wife F M W 47 TN Occ: Keeping House Fa: TN Mo: NC Frances M. MC BEE Son M S W 17 MO Occ: At Home Fa: TN Mo: TN Elijah M. MC BEE Son M S W 15 MO Occ: At Home Fa: TN Mo: TN Sarah A. MC BEE Dau F S W 12 MO Fa: TN Mo: TN William MC BEE Son M S W 10 MO Fa: TN Mo: TN
Hi All, Found this in the "Kinchen Rambo Diary", Gwinnett Co., GA page. http://www.couchgenweb.com/gwinnett/ October 8th 1867. I Baptized Brother Wilson Magbie and Brother D. D. Heslep for Euharley Church. I don't know which County in GA this church is located in, could be Floyd (?) but you can see for your self and maybe you can figure it out. Happy Holidays, Elnora Frances Cook-Wyrick
Valorie, in searching for my ggrandfather, I have found several William's in each generation. It seems as it every father, brother and cousin named a child "William". I hope you have more luck that Elnora W. & I have had. A Merry Christmas to all.
I don't want to be misunderstood. Most folks do like the transcribed copies but if I'd used them I'd have missed a bunch of my lines. That is why I got name by name, line by line on every district in the county. I make the decision, not someone that was hired to do a job and gets paid by the hour with no interest in the accuracy of what they write down. I'm not ever certain of what you end up with by the time you get through the enumerator who was either drunk, uneducated or totally incompetent and then the person who transcribed the data (see above). Nope, gonna do it myself from the microfilm or some other media that will display the original page. One more point, by looking at the pages themselves I found my GGGF and his siblings even though the name used was McColey instead of McCandless. Don't know if that was an error or what but five of seven children matched name and age down to middle names and initials. NEVER would have found that with a index. But it is whatever a researcher thinks is best for their own purpose. Not up to me. Now with all that said, I do use the indices to find new collateral families if they are there. If not, back to the hard way. Ron Alice Ingle wrote: > > Wow Ron, > > I can't count the times I've read a transcription where the names of the > children were typed in as (ex.) Jefse, Clarifsa, Melifsa....it is probably > the only pet peeve I have as far as genealogy. > > I personally think that a short course in old English cursive styles > couldn't hurt. > > Okay, I have another pet peeve, I found a Mabry living in the same household > as some Magbys I was checking out, or I found a family of Magbys living with > a Mabry. Whataya think? If I were a transcriber, I would at least put a > little note in that states I wasn't sure but it looked more like Mabry even > though the rest of the family was Magby. A transcriber did that with a > Hanes group I was looking into. Stated on the transcription that Hanes > could be Harris and in the Harris family stated that it could be Hanes. I > really appreciated it to say the least. > > I prefer already transcribed copies too. I use the "edit", "find..." > feature to check out other surnames I'm looking for. It doesn't work on > pictures of census images, but does for text. > > Ali > > From: Ron McCandless <ronmcctx@texas.net> > > I too used to copy the page before and the page after but I did it to > compare other names in my list with the names on the three pages. > > Now that so much of the census images are online I just go there > (Ancestry costs and I'm a subscriber BUT SK makes their images for 1860 > available to Roots for every county they finish). Trick is... I search > every name there from page to page to make certain I don't miss > anything. I keep notes to be certain I know exactly what I've read and > what I haven't. > > NOTE: Don't trust the indexes from AIS, I've found lots they missed or > didn't transcribe correctly because they didn't know what the Double S > looked like in old script. If I look for myself I have no one to blame > if I mess up and miss someone. > > If I had to go to the library and do this on Microfilm it wouldn't be > feasible for me but this way is great. > > Ron > > _________________________________________________________________ > Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > http://www.hotmail.com > > ==== MCBEE Mailing List ==== > Don't forget our Message Board, courtesy of Rootsweb! Queries, Bible > records, Biographies, Deeds, Obits, Pensions, Wills and other data: > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/board/rw/surnames.mcbee > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237
I too used to copy the page before and the page after but I did it to compare other names in my list with the names on the three pages. Now that so much of the census images are online I just go there (Ancestry costs and I'm a subscriber BUT SK makes their images for 1860 available to Roots for every county they finish). Trick is... I search every name there from page to page to make certain I don't miss anything. I keep notes to be certain I know exactly what I've read and what I haven't. NOTE: Don't trust the indexes from AIS, I've found lots they missed or didn't transcribe correctly because they didn't know what the Double S looked like in old script. If I look for myself I have no one to blame if I mess up and miss someone. If I had to go to the library and do this on Microfilm it wouldn't be feasible for me but this way is great. Ron Valorie Zimmerman wrote: > > Well, I joined the Primitive Baptist list, and put my query out there. > Who should give me the best clue I've gotten for a year or two, but > Gwen? I always copy the census page before and after the one entry I'm > looking for, but this William McBee is TWO pages away. As Gwen and I > discussed, if this is indeed the William McBee that I'm looking for, in > 1880 he is alive, well, and remarried. So perhaps Samuel was apprenticed > to Jim Woodward? > > I still have heard nothing about the Bunch-McBee connection, but I've > joined the Melungeon list, where I understand they have been recently > discussing Bunches. So off to write a new, better query, thanks to Gwen! > > Valorie > > PS: Anybody connected to William, Mannilia, Frances, Elijah, or Sarah? > It is a bit suspicious that there is another William, but he could be > the son of Mannillia, by a first husband? -v > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: McBee > Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 19:25:00 -0800 > From: "Gwen Boyer Bjorkman" <gwenbj@seanet.com> > To: "Valorie Zimmerman" <valoriez@zimres.net> > > Hi Valorie: > > Saw your query and just wondered if you had seen the 1880 census where > it > says that the father of your Samuel McBee was b. in KY? Maybe it's a > mistake?? > > 1880 Census Place: Clay, Harrison, Missouri > Source: FHL Film 1254688 National Archives Film T9-0688 Page 4D > Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace > Samuel MC BEE Self M M W 29 MO > Occ: Engineer Fa: KY Mo: MO > Nancy MC BEE Wife F M W 19 MO > Occ: Keeping House Fa: KY Mo: KY > > Is this your William? > 1880 Census Place: Clay, Harrison, Missouri > Source: FHL Film 1254688 National Archives Film T9-0688 Page 6D > Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace > William MC BEE Self M M W 55 TN > Occ: Farmer Fa: TN Mo: TN > Mannilia MC BEE Wife F M W 47 TN > Occ: Keeping House Fa: TN Mo: NC > Frances M. MC BEE Son M S W 17 MO > Occ: At Home Fa: TN Mo: TN > Elijah M. MC BEE Son M S W 15 MO > Occ: At Home Fa: TN Mo: TN > Sarah A. MC BEE Dau F S W 12 MO > Fa: TN Mo: TN > William MC BEE Son M S W 10 MO > Fa: TN Mo: TN > > I do not see Jim Woodward, but there are other Woodwards in Cainesville > in > 1880. > > Gwen Boyer Bjorkman > gwenbj@seanet.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: Valorie Zimmerman [mailto:valoriez@zimres.net] > Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 12:13 PM > To: gwenbj@seanet.com > Source: PRIMITIVE-BAPTIST-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [Primitive-Baptists] McBEE & Bunch in Big Spring Prim. Bap. > 1830s > Claiborne Co. TN > > Ramona Bayes Woods wrote: > > > > Hi Everyone, > > I would like to welcome you all to the Primitive Baptist Roots list. > > I started the list and board in memory of my Cousin Anthony Sturgill s/o > William Sturgill and Bea Rose Sturgill who died last year at age 32. > > The Sturgill family of Grayson Co. VA have long been members of the > Primitive Baptist Church; therefore my interest. May we get aquainted > and > everyone tell us a bit about your interest in the Church? > > Thanks for starting this list, Ramona. I've found not only McBees, but > also Bunches mentioned in the MINUTES OF BIG SPRING PRIMITIVE BAPTIST > CHURCH (Claiborne County, TN 1830s). The gggrandfather who seems to have > landed somewhere in the southern US with aliens was named William Bunch > McBee, so I'm hoping to find some evidence of his birth, and information > about his parents. > > Here's part of an old query. This is what I know (or suspect): > > My grandfather's Harvey Elmer McBEE's paternal grandfather William Bunch > McBee [came to America from Dublin, Ireland, but there is a possibility > that he was Scottish. -this part may be HOOEY!] > > Great-grandfather Samuel McBee and his wife Nancy Jane Booth McBee are > buried in the Fairview Cemetery, also know as the old "Booth Cememtery" > near Cainsville, Missouri [Harrison Co. MO],... [and also William Bunch > McBee, his grandfather] -- I've never seen any of the gravestones, or > even pictures. > > Samuel was born in MO in Feb 1852, and raised by Jim Woodward, of > Cainsville, Missouri, until he was 18, and Woodward then started Samuel > up with the Old Boer's Nest Mill, west of Cainsville, Missouri. He > continued running the sawmill in Missouri and southern Iowa until he > became feeble, then Sidney, his son, [my grandfather's older brother] > took the mill over. Samuel and Nancy Jane lived out their later lives in > Cool, Warren Co. Iowa, ... It is quite likely that Samuel's parents > [William & Mary Ellen] died young since he was raised by Jim > Woodward..... > > Sidney's grandparents on his father's side were William Bunch McBee and > Mary Ellen Robeson (we do not know the birth or death dates). William > was supposedly a violinist in Dublin, Ireland, and he may have taught > music. Mary was of Irish descent, and after her death William remarried > and lived in Cainsville at the time of his death. [When and where did > she die, and where is she buried? I have nothing but a name. I have no > records mentioning either William or Mary Ellen.] > > Besides the possibility of a BUNCH - McBEE connection, I'd like to find > out more out Jim Woodward, and whether he was a connection from > Claiborne Co. TN, also. > > Valorie > > ==== MCBEE Mailing List ==== > To Unsubscribe: Click on <mailto:McBee-L-request@rootsweb.com> to create > a new message with UNSUBSCRIBE as the *only* text in the message, and as > the subject. Contact Valorie <mailto:McBee-admin@rootsweb.com> with any > questions, list problems, or virus warnings. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237
Wow Ron, I can't count the times I've read a transcription where the names of the children were typed in as (ex.) Jefse, Clarifsa, Melifsa....it is probably the only pet peeve I have as far as genealogy. I personally think that a short course in old English cursive styles couldn't hurt. Okay, I have another pet peeve, I found a Mabry living in the same household as some Magbys I was checking out, or I found a family of Magbys living with a Mabry. Whataya think? If I were a transcriber, I would at least put a little note in that states I wasn't sure but it looked more like Mabry even though the rest of the family was Magby. A transcriber did that with a Hanes group I was looking into. Stated on the transcription that Hanes could be Harris and in the Harris family stated that it could be Hanes. I really appreciated it to say the least. I prefer already transcribed copies too. I use the "edit", "find..." feature to check out other surnames I'm looking for. It doesn't work on pictures of census images, but does for text. Ali From: Ron McCandless <ronmcctx@texas.net> I too used to copy the page before and the page after but I did it to compare other names in my list with the names on the three pages. Now that so much of the census images are online I just go there (Ancestry costs and I'm a subscriber BUT SK makes their images for 1860 available to Roots for every county they finish). Trick is... I search every name there from page to page to make certain I don't miss anything. I keep notes to be certain I know exactly what I've read and what I haven't. NOTE: Don't trust the indexes from AIS, I've found lots they missed or didn't transcribe correctly because they didn't know what the Double S looked like in old script. If I look for myself I have no one to blame if I mess up and miss someone. If I had to go to the library and do this on Microfilm it wouldn't be feasible for me but this way is great. Ron _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com
Well, I joined the Primitive Baptist list, and put my query out there. Who should give me the best clue I've gotten for a year or two, but Gwen? I always copy the census page before and after the one entry I'm looking for, but this William McBee is TWO pages away. As Gwen and I discussed, if this is indeed the William McBee that I'm looking for, in 1880 he is alive, well, and remarried. So perhaps Samuel was apprenticed to Jim Woodward? I still have heard nothing about the Bunch-McBee connection, but I've joined the Melungeon list, where I understand they have been recently discussing Bunches. So off to write a new, better query, thanks to Gwen! Valorie PS: Anybody connected to William, Mannilia, Frances, Elijah, or Sarah? It is a bit suspicious that there is another William, but he could be the son of Mannillia, by a first husband? -v -------- Original Message -------- Subject: McBee Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 19:25:00 -0800 From: "Gwen Boyer Bjorkman" <gwenbj@seanet.com> To: "Valorie Zimmerman" <valoriez@zimres.net> Hi Valorie: Saw your query and just wondered if you had seen the 1880 census where it says that the father of your Samuel McBee was b. in KY? Maybe it's a mistake?? 1880 Census Place: Clay, Harrison, Missouri Source: FHL Film 1254688 National Archives Film T9-0688 Page 4D Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace Samuel MC BEE Self M M W 29 MO Occ: Engineer Fa: KY Mo: MO Nancy MC BEE Wife F M W 19 MO Occ: Keeping House Fa: KY Mo: KY Is this your William? 1880 Census Place: Clay, Harrison, Missouri Source: FHL Film 1254688 National Archives Film T9-0688 Page 6D Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace William MC BEE Self M M W 55 TN Occ: Farmer Fa: TN Mo: TN Mannilia MC BEE Wife F M W 47 TN Occ: Keeping House Fa: TN Mo: NC Frances M. MC BEE Son M S W 17 MO Occ: At Home Fa: TN Mo: TN Elijah M. MC BEE Son M S W 15 MO Occ: At Home Fa: TN Mo: TN Sarah A. MC BEE Dau F S W 12 MO Fa: TN Mo: TN William MC BEE Son M S W 10 MO Fa: TN Mo: TN I do not see Jim Woodward, but there are other Woodwards in Cainesville in 1880. Gwen Boyer Bjorkman gwenbj@seanet.com -----Original Message----- From: Valorie Zimmerman [mailto:valoriez@zimres.net] Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 12:13 PM To: gwenbj@seanet.com Source: PRIMITIVE-BAPTIST-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Primitive-Baptists] McBEE & Bunch in Big Spring Prim. Bap. 1830s Claiborne Co. TN Ramona Bayes Woods wrote: > > Hi Everyone, > I would like to welcome you all to the Primitive Baptist Roots list. > I started the list and board in memory of my Cousin Anthony Sturgill s/o William Sturgill and Bea Rose Sturgill who died last year at age 32. > The Sturgill family of Grayson Co. VA have long been members of the Primitive Baptist Church; therefore my interest. May we get aquainted and everyone tell us a bit about your interest in the Church? Thanks for starting this list, Ramona. I've found not only McBees, but also Bunches mentioned in the MINUTES OF BIG SPRING PRIMITIVE BAPTIST CHURCH (Claiborne County, TN 1830s). The gggrandfather who seems to have landed somewhere in the southern US with aliens was named William Bunch McBee, so I'm hoping to find some evidence of his birth, and information about his parents. Here's part of an old query. This is what I know (or suspect): My grandfather's Harvey Elmer McBEE's paternal grandfather William Bunch McBee [came to America from Dublin, Ireland, but there is a possibility that he was Scottish. -this part may be HOOEY!] Great-grandfather Samuel McBee and his wife Nancy Jane Booth McBee are buried in the Fairview Cemetery, also know as the old "Booth Cememtery" near Cainsville, Missouri [Harrison Co. MO],... [and also William Bunch McBee, his grandfather] -- I've never seen any of the gravestones, or even pictures. Samuel was born in MO in Feb 1852, and raised by Jim Woodward, of Cainsville, Missouri, until he was 18, and Woodward then started Samuel up with the Old Boer's Nest Mill, west of Cainsville, Missouri. He continued running the sawmill in Missouri and southern Iowa until he became feeble, then Sidney, his son, [my grandfather's older brother] took the mill over. Samuel and Nancy Jane lived out their later lives in Cool, Warren Co. Iowa, ... It is quite likely that Samuel's parents [William & Mary Ellen] died young since he was raised by Jim Woodward..... Sidney's grandparents on his father's side were William Bunch McBee and Mary Ellen Robeson (we do not know the birth or death dates). William was supposedly a violinist in Dublin, Ireland, and he may have taught music. Mary was of Irish descent, and after her death William remarried and lived in Cainsville at the time of his death. [When and where did she die, and where is she buried? I have nothing but a name. I have no records mentioning either William or Mary Ellen.] Besides the possibility of a BUNCH - McBEE connection, I'd like to find out more out Jim Woodward, and whether he was a connection from Claiborne Co. TN, also. Valorie
In our last great episode: Jessee McBee/MagBee and Lucinda Poole McB were in Johnson Co AR from about 1855 until 1863 (sold their last piece of land there that year). Some of the children said they were in school in Coal Hill, Johnson Co AR. From some notes that I first received I was told that the place they referred to was in AL so I lost some time on that issue. Always review every note you have once a year to see if you see something that you didn't catch before. >From a researcher of Johnson Co AR I received the following. I know that there was a James McBee in my Jessee's home who was the same age as Jessee's son John (16 Yrs.) but I never saw any other McBees listed in the 1860 census of that county. Didn't look that well if I recall though. It seems plain that there were other McBees there however and what is unclear is how they fit. Coal Hill Cemetery: McBee,Mary Emma 1887-1973 Oakland Cemetery: McBee,Dounald Lee 10/10/1938-10/15/1953 Martha J. 11/02/1848-1852 Mcbee, W.K. 1106/1876-4/22/1952 Kitty E. ( wife of W.K.) 5/11/1878-1/01/1942 I'm not going to speculate here but I'm asking if anyone might know who these folks are???? Ron McCandless
I know that a few of you have McBees who attended these churches. In case you don't subscribe to the NewGenList-L, here's the scoop: PRIMITIVE-BAPTIST-ROOTS. A mailing list for anyone with a genealogical interest in the Primitive Baptist church. To subscribe send "subscribe" to primitive-baptist-roots-l-request@rootsweb.com (mail mode) or primitive-baptist-roots-d-request@rootsweb.com (digest mode).
>From my PML this morning, I know that the Uvalde and RockSprings, TX McBees are represented on this list so maybe this will find a home. Source: CAROTHERS-L@rootsweb.com From: lnorth@angelfire.com Subject: Re: Cupples Families in Texas This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: CUPPLES, SWEETEN, NORTH Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/pgH.2ACEB/5.9.118.1 Message Board Post: Charlie: My great grandfather was Charles Tucker Cupples. All I know about him is that he was a sheriff, either in Rocksprings or Del Rio, Texas. His wife was Lucy Sweeten from the Uvalde, Camp Wood area. They had two daughters, Mary Cupples (McBee) and Lola Elizabeth Cupples (North). Lola was my grandmother and was born in 1889. I have not been able to find out anything about Charles Tucker Cupples. Is he from one of the two Cupples families you have information on from the 1800s in Texas? Any help you can give me would be greatly appreciated. Thank you........linda
Subject: {not a subscriber} Jesse Mcbee,Southworth Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2001 15:18:15 -0700 From: snowpine@earthlink.net This is a gatewayed Message Board Post, Classification: Query Surnames: McBee, Southworth, McKinny, Graden, Riojas -- Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/HNz.2ACEB/470 Message Board Post - *** Please CLICK THE LINK to Respond *** : need info on g g randfather Jesse andrew mcbee southworth married to "Elizbeth had a son my grandfather jesse mcbee southworth, Elizabeth passed away abt 1889 also surnames of Rebecca susan Mckinny, Graden, Riojas any info would help thank you Gil
Posted as a response to my query about Jessee McBee/MagBee and Lucinda Poole. Re: Jessee McBee m. Lucinda Poole Feb. 1838 Author: Gilbert Andrade Date: 9 Dec 2001 7:31 PM GMT In Reply to: Jessee McBee m. Lucinda Poole Feb. 1838 by: Ron McCandless Post Reply | Mark Unread | Report Abuse Print Message (spelling as in context) Hello just ccame across this mess: my g g randfather and grandfather was named Jesse andrew mcbee, southworth was raised by by aunts and uncle when mother Elizabeth Mcbee passed away in 1869 when he was ony one yr old were org from joblin MO, also had a rebeca susan mckinney in family
Hi Jane, I am Nelda Percival A descendant of Isaac William Cupp, I do long distant colateral lines to my four surnames of Gilpin Cupp, Bonstein Gillock. The McBees married into my Cupp lines in a few places. I would like to add your info on Johannah McBee and Robert Walters I already have info on most of the children of William McBee and Susannah Vardy. Yours will help. I also would like to add you name and email addy as a poc for that section of the file. Let me know.. Nelda Nelda, IBSSG; List/Board manager for: lists Beattie, Beaty, Beatty, Bodine, Bonstein, Divine, Gillock, Gilpin, Lykins; boards: Beattie, Bonstein, Breeding, Gillock, Gilpin, Wolfensbarger, Wooten, Ourancestors@yahoogroups.com & a member of GILPINsearch@yahoogroups.com & rwerelated@yahoogroups.com my website, an IBSSG Select site; http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Fields/8731 From: "pioneerwoman" <pioneerwoman@qwest.net> Reply-To: MCBEE-L@rootsweb.com To: MCBEE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [McBEE] Anna McBee Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 11:02:52 -0700 Hi: I'm new to the list and hope to find some new cousins. I "think" (not proven yet to my satisfaction) that I have another McBee/Dodd connection through our James A. Dodd, Sr. b.c.1774 VA d.Habersham Co., GA; married Susannah (Anna) (possibly McBee) d.Habersham Co., GA. I have a firm McBee connection with Robert Walters who marr. Johannah McBee b.c.1733, daughter of William McBee and Susannah Vardry. I have searched the McBee Archives and found no Dodd names, other than the researcher Jordan R. Dodd. My question pertains to information I have seen on the net on Anna McBee. I know there were 2 (or more) Anna McBee females. I am looking for data on the Anna McBee who marr. a James or John Dodd. One site has Anna marr. to James Dodd and the other site has John Dodd as husband of Anna. I need to prove or disprove that this Anna could be the Susannah (Anna) McBee Dodd I seek. Any help really appreciated. I already have the info on the Anna McBee who marr. James Watt Lee, Jr. Jane a/k/a Pioneer Woman My web sites: http://justjanes0.tripod.com/ This email and attachments are virus free. Checked by Norton Antivirus. ==== MCBEE Mailing List ==== To Unsubscribe: Click on <mailto:McBee-L-request@rootsweb.com> to create a new message with UNSUBSCRIBE as the *only* text in the message, and as the subject. Contact Valorie <mailto:McBee-admin@rootsweb.com> with any questions, list problems, or virus warnings. ============================== Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 Source for Family History Online. Go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1237 _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp
Dear Carol, Hey, I just found a Huddleston in my records for Clouds/Cupps: Can you help? Register Report - 8 Dec 2001 First Generation 1. Joseph Cloud - 3273. Son of Mordecai Cloud - 3275 & Mary Chads - 3276. Born 1743. Died 1816. He married Mary Earl Underwood - 3274. They had the following children: 2 i. Samuel (Sam) (Sr) Cloud - 3272 Second Generation 2. Samuel (Sam) (Sr) Cloud - 3272. Son of Joseph Cloud - 3273 & Mary Earl Underwood - 3274. Born 26 Jan 1766 in Orange Co., NC. Died 30 Nov 1853 in Claiborne Co., TN. He first married Margaret (#1) Wilson - 3017, About 1787 in Randolph Co., NC. Born 1787 in Randolph Co., NC. They had the following children: 3 i. Jacob Cloud - 3018 HUDDLESTON CONNECTION 4 ii. Samuel (Jr) Cloud - 3618 5 iii. Abner C. Cloud - 3919 6 iv. Mary Earl Cloud - 3921 7 v. Anna Cloud - 3923 8 vi. Cynthia Melissa Cloud - 3924 9 vii. Cornelius H. Cloud - 3926 10 viii. Jonathan Milton Cloud - 3927 He second married Mary Margaret (Peggy) Cupp - 1046, daughter of John Jacob Cupp - 206 & Sibitha (Sibby) Breeding - 207, 15 May 1839 in Claiborne Co., TN. Born About 1791 in East TN. Christen in ®20 ®118. Peggy was married under the name of Bowyers/Bonrgen Third Generation 3. Jacob Cloud - 3018. Son of Samuel (Sam) (Sr) Cloud - 3272 & Margaret (#1) Wilson - 3017. Born 16 Sep 1792 in NC. Died Jun 1861 in Claiborne C., TN. Occupation Pvt. in Cpt William Hamilton's Co., TN Militia. Religion (10/12/1813- 3/20/1814). He married Mary (Polly) Huddleston - 3019, 14 Jul 1817 in Claiborne Co., TN. Born 25 Apr 1798 in Rutherford Co., NC. Died 1880 in TN. They had the following children: 11 i. Raphail Cloud - 3271 4. Samuel (Jr) Cloud - 3618. Son of Samuel (Sam) (Sr) Cloud - 3272 & Margaret (#1) Wilson - 3017. Born About 1799 in TN. 5. Abner C. Cloud - 3919. Son of Samuel (Sam) (Sr) Cloud - 3272 & Margaret (#1) Wilson - 3017. Born About 1801 in TN. He married Mary Polly Capps, Davis - 3920. Born About 1804 in TN. 6. Mary Earl Cloud - 3921. Daughter of Samuel (Sam) (Sr) Cloud - 3272 & Margaret (#1) Wilson - 3017. Born 8 Mar 1817 in Warren Co., OH. She married Pleasent Butler - 3922, 16 Nov 1854. 7. Anna Cloud - 3923. Daughter of Samuel (Sam) (Sr) Cloud - 3272 & Margaret (#1) Wilson - 3017. Born 18 Dec 1818 in OH. 8. Cynthia Melissa Cloud - 3924. Daughter of Samuel (Sam) (Sr) Cloud - 3272 & Margaret (#1) Wilson - 3017. Born 20 Dec 1820 in Warren Co., OH. She married William Moffitt - 3925, 14 May 1845 in Montgomery Co., IN. 9. Cornelius H. Cloud - 3926. Son of Samuel (Sam) (Sr) Cloud - 3272 & Margaret (#1) Wilson - 3017. Born 2 Sep 1822 in OH. Occupation because of the unk date of death of Margaret Wilson,. She is listed as the mother of this child. 10. Jonathan Milton Cloud - 3927. Son of Samuel (Sam) (Sr) Cloud - 3272 & Margaret (#1) Wilson - 3017. Born 12 Aug 1824 in Warren Co., OH. Occupation this child has the same problem with proof of mother as Cornelius does. Fourth Generation 11. Raphail Cloud - 3271. Son of Jacob Cloud - 3018 & Mary (Polly) Huddleston - 3019. Born About 1835. possible son or grandson. Reference Note 20 "Volume of Old Settlers" by P.G. Fulkerson shows under "Pioneer Cupp" that Peggy Cupp married Samuel Cloud Reference Note 118 Under Tennessee law at the time the guilty party was not allowed to remarry (and sometimes the innocent as well, especially if the innocent was a woman) until after the death of the ex-spouse. Notes of the divorcee: Oct 1, 1829 " To the Honourable the g Index Butler, Pleasent - 3922, spouse of 6 Capps, Davis, Mary Polly - 3920, spouse of 5 Cloud, Abner C. - 3919 5 Cloud, Anna - 3923 7 Cloud, Cornelius H. - 3926 9 Cloud, Cynthia Melissa - 3924 8 Cloud, Jacob - 3018 3 Cloud, Jonathan Milton - 3927 10 Cloud, Joseph - 3273 1 Cloud, Mary Earl - 3921 6 Cloud, Raphail - 3271 11 Cloud, Samuel (Jr) - 3618 4 Cloud, Samuel (Sam) (Sr) - 3272 2 Cupp, Mary Margaret (Peggy) - 1046, spouse of 2 Huddleston, Mary (Polly) - 3019, spouse of 3 Moffitt, William - 3925, spouse of 8 Underwood, Mary Earl - 3274, spouse of 1 Wilson, Margaret (#1) - 3017, spouse of 2 _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp
Dear Carol, In reference to the Nancy Kelly in the copy of the McBee's I sent. First you state that "Now Pleasent McBee might have married a Nancy but not this one with those birth and death dates." If you will refer back to the report you will find that the Nancy Kelly in my report does not have birth or death dates, nor are any parents mentioned. Could since the apparent connection between your Huddleston's and McBee's; Pleasent McBee have married a cousin to your Nancy Kelly...or a niece, with the same name? It was quite a practice to name members of a family even the same generations with the same names. Does anyone else have a suggestion? As I said in the begining of my reports only part of this information is mine part is from a file that the Brubakers did and part from resources at http:www.gencircles.com. I submitted this to get all of your help in checking the info out. I have had quite a few contacts about the info and even connected with a new cousin! Thank you Nelda L. Percival nee Gilpin Descendant of Isaac William Cupp, son of Jacob Cupp and Sibtha (Sibby) Breeding. Nelda, IBSSG; List/Board manager for: lists Beattie, Beaty, Beatty, Bodine, Bonstein, Divine, Gillock, Gilpin, Lykins; boards: Beattie, Bonstein, Breeding, Gillock, Gilpin, Wolfensbarger, Wooten, Ourancestors@yahoogroups.com & a member of GILPINsearch@yahoogroups.com & rwerelated@yahoogroups.com my website, an IBSSG Select site; http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Fields/8731 From: Shewulf82@aol.com Reply-To: MCBEE-L@rootsweb.com To: MCBEE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [McBEE] Re: McBee/Kelly Marriage Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 12:17:36 EST Hello, I am a direct descendant of Pleasant Miller Huddleston {b 4-12-1806 d 3-25-1882 buried Wesley Cemetry, Hardeman Co, TN}and Nancy Kelly{born 7-28-1806 Russell Co VA d 10-16-1885 buried Wesley Cemetery, Hardeman Co., TN}, daughter of Michael Kelly and Lucretia Sherman. I would be very interested in knowing where and how you obtained your facts because my documents show that Nancy Kelly married Pleasant Miller Huddleston NOT Pleasant McBee. I have a picture of her tombstone declaring her the wife of P. M. Huddleston and I have a copy of an Indenture {Deed--selling 30 acres belonging to heirs of Michael Kelly, deceased} from Russell Co VA from Deed Book 8, Page 366 dated 14 Nov 1830 stating that Nancy is the legal heir of Michael Kelly and wife of Pleasant M. Huddleston. If anyone wants a copy of the Indenture, I can mail privately. Pleasant and Nancy Huddleston are my GGGGParents. Now, Pleasant McBee might have married a Nancy but not this one with those birth and death dates. I would be interested to know who he did marry since Israel McBee's daughter, Rachael Miranda McBee, married John David Huddleston and were Parents to my Pleasant M. Huddleston. I have just started on the McBees and would love to share info on the Kellys, Huddlestons and McBees. Thank you, Carol Scarborough ==== MCBEE Mailing List ==== To Unsubscribe: Click on <mailto:McBee-L-request@rootsweb.com> to create a new message with UNSUBSCRIBE as the *only* text in the message, and as the subject. Contact Valorie <mailto:McBee-admin@rootsweb.com> with any questions, list problems, or virus warnings. ============================== Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 Source for Family History Online. Go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1237 _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp
Are there any of us who are lucky enough to have gotten our McBees back to Scotland? If so, this might be interesting to you: -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Scottish Clan Research and Events Date: 7 Dec 2001 00:19:53 -0700 From: jahansen@qwest.net To: CLAN-MACBEAN-L@rootsweb.com This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: MacBean Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/DIB.2ACIAE/1 Message Board Post: Dear All: The purpose of this message board is to provide information on the Scottish Clan. Surname Research should still be posted on the Surname message board or mailing list. The Clan mailing list and message boards are gatewayed together so this message will be relayed over to the mailing list. This Clan board and mailing list are intended to cover subjects that would normally be considered off topic in the surnames. We used the list from the "Great Hall of the Clans" as our guide to the Clan list. The Lord Lyon has referenced this site from their site so it has some degree of acceptance from an official source. That was also the guide to the spellings of the Clan name. The Clan mailing list and Clan message boards are for anyone with a genealogical or historical interest in the Scottish Clan and their Septs. Acceptable Topics include searches for Clan ancestors; discussions of Clan history, culture, food, language, coats of arms, tartans, and major events that changed the course of the Clan. Current events such as the main Clan gathering, rebuilding of the Clan Castle, news from archives or museums; and notices of Clan gatherings and meetings from the official regional and international Clan Associations are also encouraged. I've suggested some threads so you can easily post directly under that topic/thread for easy follow-up. Please feel free to add other topics or major threads These threads include: A: Admin /General B: History C: Associations notices D: Tartans E: Coats of Arms F: Heraldry G: Castles ( sub threads) H: Culture items I: Chieftain Notices J: Clan Gathering or meetings K: Archives or Museums with Clan Info L:Ancestors No Flames, No Politics, No Religion, No Selling Best Regards John A Hansen Board Admin BTW: Many thanks to our Lady Elaine, and Vicki for their patience and assistance in getting this all set up!! It took many hours of work. BTW: A very special acknowlegement must go to the beautiful maiden, Margaret that married me so many years ago in Ayr and celebrated with the family at the at Burns Hotel at Brigadoon. She thence gave us 4 children and 7 Grandchildren that are the most important things in my life. She has also encouraged me to pursue my interest in Scottish Genealogy and History and for that I will be forever in her debt.
Updated MCBEE Notes posted today. Obediah McBee-William H McBee-John Garvin McBee: http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/w/y/r/Elnora--F-Wyrick/ Elnora Frances Cook-Wyrick
Hello, I am a direct descendant of Pleasant Miller Huddleston {b 4-12-1806 d 3-25-1882 buried Wesley Cemetry, Hardeman Co, TN}and Nancy Kelly{born 7-28-1806 Russell Co VA d 10-16-1885 buried Wesley Cemetery, Hardeman Co., TN}, daughter of Michael Kelly and Lucretia Sherman. I would be very interested in knowing where and how you obtained your facts because my documents show that Nancy Kelly married Pleasant Miller Huddleston NOT Pleasant McBee. I have a picture of her tombstone declaring her the wife of P. M. Huddleston and I have a copy of an Indenture {Deed--selling 30 acres belonging to heirs of Michael Kelly, deceased} from Russell Co VA from Deed Book 8, Page 366 dated 14 Nov 1830 stating that Nancy is the legal heir of Michael Kelly and wife of Pleasant M. Huddleston. If anyone wants a copy of the Indenture, I can mail privately. Pleasant and Nancy Huddleston are my GGGGParents. Now, Pleasant McBee might have married a Nancy but not this one with those birth and death dates. I would be interested to know who he did marry since Israel McBee's daughter, Rachael Miranda McBee, married John David Huddleston and were Parents to my Pleasant M. Huddleston. I have just started on the McBees and would love to share info on the Kellys, Huddlestons and McBees. Thank you, Carol Scarborough
Hi: I'm new to the list and hope to find some new cousins. I "think" (not proven yet to my satisfaction) that I have another McBee/Dodd connection through our James A. Dodd, Sr. b.c.1774 VA d.Habersham Co., GA; married Susannah (Anna) (possibly McBee) d.Habersham Co., GA. I have a firm McBee connection with Robert Walters who marr. Johannah McBee b.c.1733, daughter of William McBee and Susannah Vardry. I have searched the McBee Archives and found no Dodd names, other than the researcher Jordan R. Dodd. My question pertains to information I have seen on the net on Anna McBee. I know there were 2 (or more) Anna McBee females. I am looking for data on the Anna McBee who marr. a James or John Dodd. One site has Anna marr. to James Dodd and the other site has John Dodd as husband of Anna. I need to prove or disprove that this Anna could be the Susannah (Anna) McBee Dodd I seek. Any help really appreciated. I already have the info on the Anna McBee who marr. James Watt Lee, Jr. Jane a/k/a Pioneer Woman My web sites: http://justjanes0.tripod.com/ This email and attachments are virus free. Checked by Norton Antivirus.