Bill, Those of us who have been researching for a while (I've been at it off and on for over thirty years) have become aware of not accepting death certificate info at face value. My maternal grandfather died in Pittsburgh in 1912 and the death certificate stated he was forty years old. He was forty five. It also stated that his mother was Mary Dillon and his wife was the informant. His mother was Rose McManus and his wife knew her mother-in-law. So that info was also wrong. Somewhere out there another Pittsburgh death certificate has Rose McManus as the mother of the deceased instead of Mary Dillon. The undertaker wrote out the death certificate. My grandfather's sister's age was off by ten years at her death in 1920 in Pittsburgh. When my brother-in-law died in 1995, seven of us looked at the information sheet for filling a death certificate and none of us noticed that we forgot to put down his mother's name. She was one of the seven people in the room. I'm sure there are others that have similar stories on death certificates. Good luck in your researching. Nora Hopkins FitzGerald HOPKINS/BLAINE/JENNINGS/CUNNINGHAM/MCMYLER from Crimlin, Derrylahan and Commauns townlands in Mayo In a message dated 1/16/2008 3:02:16 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, _wm.karr@insightbb.com_ (mailto:wm.karr@insightbb.com) writes: Janet, Wow! Five years, that is a lot! It is just that it is so definitive on her death certificate. However, you are probably right, that seems to be the concensus. Thanks for the data. I will explore a these little further and see where they lead. Thanks again. Bill **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489