Joe - Thanks so much for your reply. I am at once relieved and annoyed that you didn't find that James Manley in Griffith's .... annoyed with myself for accepting someone else's research at face value and relieved that I am not going mad ...... I've been right thru the Griffiths Mayo film at the LDS and was SURE there was no possible James Manley! I AM positive that Co Mayo is the place .... family lore confirms the 1871 English census entry .... so the Co Cork Jameses and the one in Rathmines can be discounted. Likewise certain that James was my great-great-great-grandfather - his two sons name him as such on their marriage certificates. As to your Co Mayo findings, I've also had the Kilmoremoy Catholic registers on LDS microfilm .... nothing definite. I see you've checked the obvious misspellings ... Manly/Mannely .... no chance he's under the less obvious Hanl(e)y I suppose .... the family is even enumerated in the 1881 census as Mundy! Otherwise, I'll go back to my previous assumption that he was already dead before Griffith's valuation was taken. best wishes Drew Reed