This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------5380DB4B21211930C9CCFADB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --------------5380DB4B21211930C9CCFADB Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 Message-ID: <[email protected]> Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 20:05:33 -0700 From: francis j o'neil <[email protected]> Organization: @Home Network X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en]C-AtHome0407 (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Subject: DUAL CITIZENSHIP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My wife was talking with some fellow employee's about my plans to have a dual Ireland and USA citizenship and was told that I would be required to give up my USA rights. Does anyone have data about doing this and what would I have to give up. I am second generation Irish American, with both sets of Grandparents born and raised in Ireland, then imm. to the USA in the early 1900's.Also, both sets became naturalized citizens. Any help and data on this will be much appreciated. Thanks in advance, Frank --------------5380DB4B21211930C9CCFADB--

I just completed the paperwork on obtaining Irish citizenship, dropped the papers off at the Consulate General for Ireland's office in Boston this past Monday, and I should receive my (dual) citizenship ... via the FBR (foreign birth registration) method (having a grandparent born in Ireland) in 3-4 months. Although the United States does not *promote* dual citizenship, it does not object to it either... one does *not* jeopardize one's US citizenship by obtaining Irish citizenship as well. For you (Francis J O'Neil) to similarly obtain Irish citizenship, you'll have to obtain: (1) a Form FB1-A from an Irish embassy or consulate, (2) certified copies of birth, marriage, and death records of any of your grandparents, (3) certified copies of the same for the parent through which you are claiming Irish citizenship (obviously, no death certificate is required for a living parent), (4) certified copies of your birth certificate and (although perhaps not necessary) marriage certificate, (5) 2 recent passport size photos of yourself. Both the photos and section E on the Form FB1-A must be signed and dated by one of the following individuals: Clergyman, Medical Doctor, School Principal, Bank Manager, Lawyer, Policeman, or Magistrate/Judge ... no, a Notary Public will not do. All vital records must be "long form" (all pertinent data included). The certified copies, once seen by the official at the Irish consulate or embassy, will be returned to you, but they also need copies to keep, so it would be well to have photocopies of the certified ones made before presentation to the official. This can all be done by mail ... I only went to the Irish Consulate in Boston in person because it's little more than an hour's drive. The cost for citizenship via Foreign Birth Registration is currently $159 (US), payable by cash or certified check (no personal checks) ... plus, of course, whatever it may cost you for the vital records. Hope this is of help ... good luck! Jack Stanton ----- Original Message ----- From: francis j o'neil <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: 14 July, 2001 13:49 Subject: [MAYO] [Fwd: DUAL CITIZENSHIP] > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > --------------5380DB4B21211930C9CCFADB > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > --------------5380DB4B21211930C9CCFADB > Content-Type: message/rfc822 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Content-Disposition: inline > > X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 20:05:33 -0700 > From: francis j o'neil <[email protected]> > Organization: @Home Network > X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en]C-AtHome0407 (Win95; U) > X-Accept-Language: en > MIME-Version: 1.0 > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Subject: DUAL CITIZENSHIP > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > My wife was talking with some fellow employee's about my plans to have a > dual Ireland and USA citizenship and was told that I would be required > to give up my USA rights. Does anyone have data about doing this and > what would I have to give up. I am second generation Irish American, > with both sets of Grandparents born and raised in Ireland, then imm. to > the USA in the early 1900's.Also, both sets became naturalized citizens. > Any help and data on this will be much appreciated. > > Thanks in advance, > Frank > > > --------------5380DB4B21211930C9CCFADB-- > > > ============================== > Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate > your heritage! > http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog >

There is presently a site which offers commercial assistance with applications and information on legal requirements -- i.e. Irish Citizenship Project to be found at: http://www.uslawfirm.com/ Previously there was a much more detailed source of information, including how legal challenges had changed the interpretation of U.S. Law on Dual Citizenship from a position where accepting foreign citizenship was tantamount to renouncing U.S. Citizenship to the present position where one must explicitly and overtly renounce U.S. citizenship to lose it. Unfortunately, that site -- http://www.twoh.com/citizen.htm -- has disappeared from the web. Jack DUKESBURY Jakarta, Indonesia ----- Original Message ----- From: francis j o'neil <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2001 12:49 AM Subject: [MAYO] [Fwd: DUAL CITIZENSHIP] (SNIP) > My wife was talking with some fellow employee's about my plans to have a > dual Ireland and USA citizenship and was told that I would be required > to give up my USA rights. Does anyone have data about doing this and > what would I have to give up. I am second generation Irish American, > with both sets of Grandparents born and raised in Ireland, then imm. to > the USA in the early 1900's.Also, both sets became naturalized citizens. > Any help and data on this will be much appreciated. > > Thanks in advance, > Frank >