The National Library of Ireland microfilmed the records from the earliest dates up to 1880. The Mormons purchased those microfilm and in some few cases microfilmed records to a later date. The tip off is that the NLI records start with 929XXX and the later filming is 129XXXX. I have posted the holdings of the FHLC several places on the web. Mayo is well covered as the missionaries spent some time there. Ellen Sue Martinson wrote: > I think I must be missing something here. Why are people writing >to parish prests in Ireland asking for family information if the Mormons >have filmed all the records ? > >Sue > > >============================== >Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp >Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! > >

Hi Ellen, Thank you very much for answering me. Theresa

These searches allow you to locate any townland, parish or village in each of Ireland's thirty two counties. The southern most tip of Lough Corrib is in Tuam diocese. The line runs through the lake! http://www.seanruad.com/ Mapquest.com can get to the parish but not the townland. http://wwwrd.0mm.com/map019002 Ellen [email protected] wrote: >My ancestors, WHELAN, MULKERRIN, KYNE, come from in or near Lough Corrib. >Would that be in the Diocese of TUAM? > >Thank you, >Theresa >[email protected] > > >============================== >Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp >Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! > >

My ancestors, WHELAN, MULKERRIN, KYNE, come from in or near Lough Corrib. Would that be in the Diocese of TUAM? Thank you, Theresa [email protected]

MARY ............. I've the following Joyce's: Bridget (Costello), Catherine (Dower) & Martin Joyce, all from Co Mayo, as follows. Any "connection" to yours?? All The Best, ED COSTELLO, 1009 Blenheim Dr Raleigh NC 27612 , tel: 919-782-6058; COSTELLO (FAHEY): Co Mayo>CT, MA, ME USA> USA; JOYCE (DOWER): Co Mayo>MA USA; HAGGERTY (McGUIRE): Co Donegal>NB Canada>ME USA>USA; LAVERTY (BROWN), (KELLY): Co Armagh>NB Can>ME, CA USA>USA, Can. COSTELLO, Thomas Richard, 1850 Co Mayo Ireland-1900 Springfield MA USA; emigrated c.1872, Ballindine, (Annagh Parish, Costello Barony, Claremorris PLU) Co Mayo, Ireland; m: 1875, St Mary's RCC, Thorndike MA USA to Bridget JOYCE, 1850 Ireland-1886 Monson MA USA ; 7 kids, all USA b; (Catherine, Mary, Edward, John Patrick, Bridget, Thomas Richard & Ellen) both interred together w/3 of their kids & other JOYCE family members at Bethany RCCem Monson MA USA; parents: Richard & Catherine (Fahey) COSTELLO of Co Mayo , Ireland; siblings: John COSTELLO of Franklin MA USA also b: Co Mayo Ireland, m: Mary Mallahy; 6 kids: Mary Anne & Michael (both b: Co Mayo) & John, Catherine, Richard & Sarah (b: USA). JOYCE, Bridget (COSTELLO), 1850 Co Mayo, Ireland-1886 Monson MA USA; Catherine (Dower), 1847 Ireland-1915 Monson/Palmer MA USA & Martin, 1852 Ireland-1881 Monson/Palmer/Chicopee MA USA; all emigrated c.1858; Bridget had 8 kids; Catherine & Martin: no known kids; all interred w/COSTELLO members at Bethany RCCem Monson MA USA; p:.Martin & Mary JOYCE, both of Ireland, probably Co Mayo. ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

Irish emigrants to UK: I have managed to do lookups for dozens of listers, and happily have been lucky to pinpoint some families exactly, adding new data to listers' research. However, there has been less success where information given was very thin, and the number of "hits" ran into thousands for common Irish names. I hope that I have replied to everyone, but if you are still waiting, please could you contact me again - although I sent replies explaining difficulties to some people and asked for extra information, I did not get a reply so don't know whether or not they want a more detailed look up. There have been up to 5000 results for some of the common names requested, which prevents detailed research. If you ask for Michael Murphy for example, with no other information, then all I can do is tell you how many hundreds of them were living in England Scotland and Wales in 1881. Please remember that I cannot to blanket searches for a surname, unless it is unusual (and most Irish names are not). Where the name is very unusual, I will send details of all instances as they are highly likely to be related. I need FIRST NAMES, approximate YEAR OF BIRTH, and if possible, LIKELY REGION OF UK RESIDENCE in 1881 if it is a common name. If the details of spouses or children are available, give these too, as this will probably narrow the research down to the exact family immediately. You also need to bear in mind that seasonal workers may not have been in UK in Spring 1881 at time of census, and many immigrants managed to avoid being recorded at all. In Liverpool alone, 20% of the population were Irish born even as far back as 1851, and this did not include their children born in UK. In parts of Scotland, the figure was almost as high. Just because emigrants who went on to US embarked from Liverpool, does not necessarily mean that they lived there. As I go back to work next week, I can only accept requests for a couple more days. Mary G

Transcriptions for Diocese of Tuam 1820-29 by Murphy and Reilly are available on Ancestry.com by paid subscription only. It costs $19.95 for 3 months, which I cancelled after one month of searching the database. I did find several use entries of my ancestors. I don't usually like to use commercial geneology sites, but this was useful. Happy Searching, Karen J. -----Original Message----- From: Ellen Naliboff [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2001 3:22 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MAYO] ? for Ellen Achill RC records for 1867-1913 FHLC#1279259 Tuam diocese Murphy and Reilly transcribed the marriage records for Tuam Diocese for 1820-1829 and Heritage Books published the book. So, I guess the answer is "No". The National Library of Ireland microfilmed the RC records from the earliest dates until 1880. The Mormon missionaries redid some of the parish records (the clue is that the FHLC# is 1279xxx) from the earliest extant to a later date. The parish priests told me that they do not have earlier sacramental registers than for the dates filmed. Nothing dramatic. . .the books are just lost. Joe Egan told me that a book has been found recently so there is always hope. Ellen Angela D Steffke wrote: > > Dear Ellen, > Are there records on Achill Ilse (marriage, baptism, burials) for Taum > diocese before 1852? I mean on Microfilm somewhere. Any help would be > most appreciated. > Thanks, > Angela > ________________________________________________________________ > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp ============================== Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history learning and how-to articles on the Internet. http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library

Looking for information on the Corkle's. Family history indicates that our Corkle's were related to the Joyce or Holland family all being from County Mayo. Mary James

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Hello Everyone, Since some of you on this list speak Gaelic I was wondering if someone could give me a translation for the motto of the New York 69th Regiment.At the time of the civil war it was all Irish,mostly immigrants.Here it is:"RIAMH NAR DHRUID O SPAIRN IANN".There is an accent over the "A" in NAR and also one over the "O".Thank you, Sarah Wijtyszyn _________________________________________________________________ iVillage.com: Solutions for Your Life Check out the most exciting women's community on the Web http://www.ivillage.com

Hi folks Can anyone help me out with the film numbers for the 1901 Census for Ballina and Castlebar. Thanks Allyson Jardine

we have a daniel carey who came to usa and married (dont know if before or after arrival)winifred scanlan. daniel was from county cork it is said, but who is to know if the family left cork for mayo before emigrating? daniel arrived here and settled in freehold, monmouth county, nj - i am not being elusive, just dont ahve alot at hand right now because this is my husb. family and i have been getting no help from the inlaws on info. so its hunt and peck on careys-tho his aunt is helpful when i can get the info together to ask her. i know he had sisters. so the entire family may have come over at once. will have to phone nj(i am in fla) to see whats what. i do have his death date and age at death - daniel b. 1852 we believe in co cork. died at 75 yrs of age, freehold, nj, usa on nov 9, 1937. his wife winifred scanlon b. 1863 we believe, died at 68 yrs of age on mar 6, 1931 in freehold. aha- my notes say daniel had a brother dennis who died of spanish influenza on oct 16, 1918 no age given. at this point, i have more than i realized so will have to get off my Tansey=Coyne-Gorey-Erdmann-Zander-Schultz-Koch-Heyer trail and persue it some more-please stay in touch-my computer is down and i am on a laptop so i am not able to promise to keep any addresses. thanks- i think i am in the carey genweb forum tho. if not, i will be tonite with this info. thanks again-hope this helps. linda

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Hi Allyson, The 1901 Census for Ballina is in the Kilmoremoy Parish Census Records. The film numbers are: 846215; 846216; 846217 Regards, Joe Egan San Diego Researching EGAN/HEGARTY/LEONARD/ McGRATH/ McHALE/ MELVIN/ RAFTER/ SWEENEY in the general area of Ballina, Co. Mayo and Co. Sligo. Also LYDON/ROURKE/TOGHER in Cong Parish, Co. Mayo 846215-217 John & Allyson Jardine wrote: > > Hi folks > Can anyone help me out with the film numbers for the 1901 Census for > Ballina and Castlebar. Thanks > > Allyson Jardine > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history > learning and how-to articles on the Internet. > http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library

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Fellow Mayo List Members: Just "finally" learned the names of my Great Great Grandparents on my Mayo Carey branch of the family tree. The problem is I still don't have a town or area in Mayo, but I've increased the triangulation from just my GGrandfathers name to that of being combined with his parents. His name was William Carey, and his parents were John and Catherine Carey---- don't have Catherine's maiden name yet. Also, William left Mayo in 1829 for Canada, along with fiance' Margaret Kilroy, so presume my search now is for an area in Mayo which had a Catholic Parish with both Careys & Kilroys where a John & Catherine Carey had a son named William, and the Kilroys had a daughter named Margaret [mothers name was Ann--- don't know what fathers name was, but William & Margaret's 2nd son was named Robert, in case they followed the Irish naming pattern---- which they didn't with their first son, Patrick--- since under the Irish naming pattern, I understand it should have been John]. Anyway, appreciate any suggestions anyone has re: where I should focus my research in order to find a parish or town or townland they were from, keeping in mind that there were many Catholic Churches in Mayo in the early 1800's when John & Catherine were married and when William would have been baptized. Also, William & Margaret waited until they got to Quebec, Canada before they got married, so searching for their marriage records in Ireland is not an option. Appreciate any and all advice and suggestions. I'm at a dead end and need some new thinking to refocus "where to go". With all good wishes, Jim Carey Washington, DC

Does anyone know if Electoral Registers are kept in Ireland and are publically available as they are in the UK? They can be a useful way of locating people in the more recent past. Thanks Mary

John, Thank you for scanning the Marquis of Sligo Rent Roll. I saved the scans and imported them into Microsoft Photoeditor from which I was able to make some excellent prints. I was hoping to see a CULKIN but no luck. If the family is there they probably come under the term 'Villagers'. I imagine someone collected the village rent and then passed it to the Marquis. Is anyone else researching CULKIN. Mine moved to Sunderland, England about 1850. Raymond

John- Many thanks for your listing of rent rolls for the M. of Sligo Jack John M.Shiels Mendham, NJ Researching BESSON,CHARDON (Switzerland 1600-1900 ) SHIEL(S),GALLAGHER(Mayo,Ire. 1700-1900 SCOTT (Eng.Manchester/Salford1860-1890)(Ire.1700-1800s) KELLY (Eng.Manchester/Salford1860-1890)(Ire.1700-1800s) KENNEDY(Eng.Liverpool/Lancs 1850-1900/ Ireland 1700,1800s) GIBBONS( Eng.Liverpool/Lancs 1850-1900/ Ireland 1700,1800s) 3:29 PM August 22, 2001

I have no knowledge about AOL, but the page has thumbnail pictures that you click to bring up the big picture behind it. That big picture should be viewable using your browser, or you can save the graphic to your hard drive so you can save it and view it "offline". I made the files somewhat large to make their legibility better. It works fine for me under both Netscape 4.78, and 6.1 and Internet Explorer 5.5. I find the freeware viewer "irfanview" works well and is available at www.irfanview.com I obtained the copy I scanned from a friend who was recently in Ireland. Obviously, they are related to Mayo, since I posted about them in a Mayo list. I also wish more were available, hence my original question about any similar items being available for George Moore, of Moore Hall, where many of my ancesters were renters. John On Wed, 22 August 2001, [email protected] wrote: > > In a message dated 8/21/01 8:21:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] > writes: > > << http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~mcging/sligorents.html > >> > Hi John, > > Thank you very much for putting this info on the web. I'm having difficulty > in accessing some of them and can't get any to print out. Do you have any > suggestions? The first one, in particular, brings up a blank screen. I've > been able to scan two and see family names on them. Mary L. Casey