Karen and Mayflower Folks, I'm a little confused, to say the least. I recently started maintaining the database for the descendants of Elizabeth Alden for the Alden Kindred, and I'm surprised to find that this information is on the Alden Kindred's website. I can only guess that this was left over from an earlier version of our database and has not been updated. Gilbert Manchester, s/o William Manchester and Rebecca Cook, b. 9 April 1745 at Tiverton, RI, m. Mercy Durfee. They are the parents of Eliphal and James. Sources are: Alden C. and Rita C. Manchester, "The Manchester Family of Rhode Island," NEHGR: 102:14, 102:24. Almon E. Daniel and Maclean W. McLean, "William Gifford of Sandwich, Mass.," NEHGR: 137:152. I also have Mary Tompkins, d/o Micah, married to Gilbert Manchester of Westport. So the information presently on the Alden website is incorrect and will be updated soon. Karen Sullivan Visit Alden Kindred of America at http://www.alden.org/ --------------------------------- Once, on this earth, once, on this familiar spot of ground, walked other men and women, as actual as we are today, thinking their own thoughts, swayed by their own passions, but now all gone, one generation vanishing after another, gone as utterly as we ourselves shall shortly be gone like ghosts at cockcrow.-- G.M.Trevelyan -----Original Message----- From: ~Karen E~ [mailto:KARENE1@webtv.net] Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 8:38 PM To: MAYFLOWER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [MFLR] Alden line correction? I have a likely but hard to prove recently discovered line to John and Priscilla through the Coe line. I went to the Alden site and found this: 76. Mary Tompkins (Micah Tompkins , Sarah Coe , Sarah ) was born on 14 Apr 1763 in Little Compton, Newport, Rhode Island, United States. Mary married Gilbert Manchester son of William Manchester and Rebeckah Cook on 26 Mar 1782 in Little Compton, Newport, Rhode Island, USA. Gilbert was born on 9 Apr 1745 in Tiverton, Newport, Rhode Island, United States. They had the following children: +266FiEliphal Manchester was born on 13 Dec 1768.  267MiiJames Manchester was born on 6 Jun 1781 in Tiverton, Newport, Rhode Island, United States. I know this must be a mistake because if Mary was born in 1763 she would have been only five years old when she gave birth to Eliphal. When I went to Little Compton today, I was given a photocopy of this page: This certifies that Gilbert Manchester of Westport son of Thomas Manchester and Mary Tompkins of Little Compton daughter of Michel Tompkins were lawfully joined together in marriage on the fifth day of March in 1789. Witness Enos Gifford Justice of Peace. Little Compton Families has Mary and Gilbert being married on March 26, 1782. I believe 1789 is correct. LCF also has Michel listed as Micah Tompkins, son of Samuel Tompkins and Sarah Coe, thus the Alden connection. I am working on absolute proof, but it is 99% likely that Gilbert Manchester and Mary Tompkins are the parents of my GGG-grandmother Rhoda Manchester who married Epapahroditus Lavare and later James Clarke. Rhoda was born in December, 1800, which is why I believe the 1789 year is correct. Rhoda's death certificate states her parents are Gilbert Manchester and Mary (unknown), both of Little Compton. There is a will of Mary Tompkins' brother David that mentions both Rhoda Lavare Clark and her son Arnold Lavare but does not give a relationship. Rhoda would be David's niece if this can be proven. Any pointers from the Alden researchers? Karen Flanders Eddy ==== MAYFLOWER Mailing List ==== Check out the web page of the General Society of Mayflower Descendants at http://www.mayflower.org/