I thank everyone for the time that they took to reply to my message. Now here is the next question that I put forth. Everyone has seen the list of Mayflower passengers. If we have determined that Josiah and his father Josias cannot be related to Francis, then where did they come from? Josias was born in England 1610, but died in Eastham, MA in 1673. His son Josiah was born 1645 in Plymouth. Was there another ship that I am not aware of that came between the Mayflower and 1645? So my question is just this: if he cannot be of the Mayflower, how did he get here? Where did he come from? Hmmm... Nicole