Genferret, a furry fuzzy guy, wrote: <Len, You mentioned off-list just now that you'd check to see when Ichabod's dad died. I think it was quite late--no joy there. However, try this. The Genferret has to work fast before the handlers find out the Genferret is loose, so this may not work.> <Plympton VR has marriage of Jane, dau. Ichabod and Ruth and specifies Ichabod, s. Noah and that Ruth was of Pembroke.> <Pembroke VR has Ichabod, h. of Ruth b. Dec 1771> <Pembroke VR also has Ich. m. Ruth Grant, Apr 3 1803.> <If these are the right people, and the dates are a little strange, it may be that Noah only felt like he was dead by the time Ichabod was born.> <Sorry, they've got me by the tail--have to go. Good luck.> Genferret: Thanks again for your replies. I didn't post to the list at first because I got your email before the list with my post arrived. And, of course, I was so excited to hear from a real ferret that I just had to reply directly while you were on the loose! Yes, these are the people I am interested in. Everything you post above is correct except for the surname of Ruth. I have it as "Ruth GARDINER" on the death certificate of their son, George, dated 4 April 1865. The name is also found as GARNET, in the VRs. The marriage date of 3 April 1803 is also correct as I have it. You noted the somewhat "premature" birth of Ichabod Sturtevant (III). Although it may not have been pre-planned in this instance, I have seen this phenomenon while researching European farm families. The reason back then appears to have been to assure fertility in a future wife (as if it didn't take two!) so that there would be a son to inherit the farm. Given this obvious fact, I wonder if someone acquainted with Mayflower Society standards could comment on how this might be treated, although it is only of academic interest in this case as the ancestry to Richard WARREN goes through a younger son, George Sturtevant, b. Feb 1809. I would be very much intereste in learning the name of the spouse of the Ichabod STURTEVANT, b. ca. 1750; m. ca. 1770 -: Ichabod, b. ca 1750 (s. of Noah - d. 1792), Plympton; m. ??? Ichabod, b. ca. 1771; m. Plympton 1803 Ruth GARDINER George, b. Feb. 1809; m. Plympton 1830 Naomi Stetson SAMSON Thanks, Len