Len, You mentioned off-list just now that you'd check to see when Ichabod's dad died. I think it was quite late--no joy there. However, try this. The Genferret has to work fast before the handlers find out the Genferret is loose, so this may not work. Plympton VR has marriage of Jane, dau. Ichabod and Ruth and specifies Ichabod, s. Noah and that Ruth was of Pembroke. Pembroke VR has Ichabod, h. of Ruth b. Dec 1771 Pembroke VR also has Ich. m. Ruth Grant, Apr 3 1803. If these are the right people, and the dates are a little strange, it may be that Noah only felt like he was dead by the time Ichabod was born. Sorry, they've got me by the tail--have to go. Good luck. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day http://shopping.yahoo.com