Christine, Exactly, and I agree! Maybe I should have said, "It is unfortunate that, possibly, some people believe that the word 'Society' only means what is described under the 4th meaning in a 'Normal dictionary such as a Webster's Dictionary.'" I did not think to look up the different meanings in the Blacks Law Dictionary at my husband's law office. If you had read the rest of my message, you would have known that I, myself, do not believe that the word has only one meaning. I have lived with my lawyer-husband for nearly forty-four years, so I am used to having someone try to argue, when I had no intentions of arguing! "All done doing that," as I say to our grandchildren, when I feel we need to move on to other subjects. My intent was to agree with Ruth, that, even though a couple might not have children, it is still worth doing research in family history, if they enjoy it, because someone in their family will appreciate their 'Labor of Love' in generations to come. I believe that it is invaluable to form groups, associations, or societies with other families, whatever the name of the group is called. My intent is not to prolong the discussion, and I do not apologize for not writing Ruth, personally, instead of on the mailing list. If my remarks have helped someone to decide whether or not to leave the legacy of a written family history, even though they do not have direct descendants, then I am glad that I chimed in on this discussion. Lois K. ----- Original Message ----- From: <ChristieTrapp@aol.com> To: <MAYFLOWER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 3:16 PM Subject: [MFLR] Mayflower Society > A comment was made to the list that it was "unfortunate" that the Mayflower > Society used the word "Society" as part of its name because it represented > "high society." I would like to disagree with this comment because "high > society" is not all that the word "society" means. > > For example, in Blacks Law Dictionary the word society is defined as: > > "An association or company of persons (generally unincorporated) united > together by mutual consent, in order to deliberate, determine, and act > jointly for some common purpose. In a wider sense, the community or public; > the people in general." > > This definition was provided by case law: Gilmer v. Stone, 120 U.S. 586, 7 > S.Ct. 689, 30 L.Ed 734. > > For those of you who are not in the legal field and don't know how to find > case law I will provide a brief explanation of the case decided. There are > three different books which will provide this citation. One is found in > volume 30 of Law Edition at page 734. One is found in volume 7 of the > Supreme Court Reports at page 689 and the last will be found in volume 120 of > the United States Reports at page 586. Not every law library can afford to > carry every single volume of law reports published throughout the United > States. So if one were to go to a law library you can ask for any of these > three and they should have at least one. > > In your normal dictionary such as a Webster's Dictionary you will find the > word "society" defined as: > > 1. Compansionship or association with one's fellows: friendly or intimate > intercourse: Company. 2. A voluntary association of individuals for common > ends; esp: an organized group working together or periodically meeting > because of common interests, beliefs,or profession. 3. (a) an enduring and > cooperating social group whose members have developed organized patterns of > relationships through interaction with one another (b) a community, nation, > or broad grouping of people having common traditions, institutions, and > collective activities and interests. 4. (a) a part of a community that is a > unit distinguishable by particular aims or standards of living or conduct: a > social circle or a groujp of social circles having a clearly marked identity < > move in polite~> <literary ~> (b) a part of the community that sets itself > apart as a leisure class and that regards itself as the arbiter of fashion > and manners. 5. (a)(1) a natural group of plants us. of a single species or > habit within an association (2) Association. 6 (b) the progeny of a pair of > insections when constituting a social unit (as a hive of bees); broadly: an > interdependent system of organizisms or biological units." > > Outside of the aspect of the definition which describes the word to nature I > believe that the beginning parts which describe the Mayflower Society as > defined as Nos. 1-3 apply. I believe that No. 4 is what the writer of the > comment meaning "high society" is what that part of definition is applicable. > > Therefore, in conclusion, the Mayflower Society is just that: an > organization that falls under No. 2: A voluntary association of individuals > for common ends; esp: an organized group working together or periodically > meeting because of common interests, beliefs,or profession. It has nothing > to do with "high society" by any sense of the word. > > Christie Trapp > > > ==== MAYFLOWER Mailing List ==== > Check out the Mayflower FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions)page at http://www.macatawa.org/~crich/mayfaq.htm . >

Also, VERY important, be to denote in your will---whir you want done with all your hard work---after you are not around. An elderly lady (genealogical friend of mine) had decided to donate her history and genealogical books to the local public library, and to send copies of her gen. papers, (Pedigree Charts, Family Group sheets,etc. to Salt Lake City). She never got around to do it. So one of her nieces confiscated them, after the aunt's death, and took them to Maine. I was out of town at the time of her death. When I returned, I wrote to the niece, telling her of her Aunt's wishes. She never responded to my letter !!!!! So, plan ahead!!! Ruth T. in NH ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lois" <lekort@attbi.com> To: <MAYFLOWER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 4:59 PM Subject: Re: [MFLR] Mayflower Society > Christine, > > Exactly, and I agree! Maybe I should have said, "It is unfortunate that, possibly, some people believe that the word 'Society' only means what is described under the 4th meaning in a 'Normal dictionary such as a Webster's Dictionary.'" I did not think to look up the different meanings in the Blacks Law Dictionary at my husband's law office. If you had read the rest of my message, you would have known that I, myself, do not believe that the word has only one meaning. > > I have lived with my lawyer-husband for nearly forty-four years, so I am used to having someone try to argue, when I had no intentions of arguing! "All done doing that," as I say to our grandchildren, when I feel we need to move on to other subjects. > > My intent was to agree with Ruth, that, even though a couple might not have children, it is still worth doing research in family history, if they enjoy it, because someone in their family will appreciate their 'Labor of Love' in generations to come. I believe that it is invaluable to form groups, associations, or societies with other families, whatever the name of the group is called. > > My intent is not to prolong the discussion, and I do not apologize for not writing Ruth, personally, instead of on the mailing list. If my remarks have helped someone to decide whether or not to leave the legacy of a written family history, even though they do not have direct descendants, then I am glad that I chimed in on this discussion. > Lois K. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <ChristieTrapp@aol.com> > To: <MAYFLOWER-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 3:16 PM > Subject: [MFLR] Mayflower Society > > > > A comment was made to the list that it was "unfortunate" that the Mayflower > > Society used the word "Society" as part of its name because it represented > > "high society." I would like to disagree with this comment because "high > > society" is not all that the word "society" means. > > > > For example, in Blacks Law Dictionary the word society is defined as: > > > > "An association or company of persons (generally unincorporated) united > > together by mutual consent, in order to deliberate, determine, and act > > jointly for some common purpose. In a wider sense, the community or public; > > the people in general." > > > > This definition was provided by case law: Gilmer v. Stone, 120 U.S. 586, 7 > > S.Ct. 689, 30 L.Ed 734. > > > > For those of you who are not in the legal field and don't know how to find > > case law I will provide a brief explanation of the case decided. There are > > three different books which will provide this citation. One is found in > > volume 30 of Law Edition at page 734. One is found in volume 7 of the > > Supreme Court Reports at page 689 and the last will be found in volume 120 of > > the United States Reports at page 586. Not every law library can afford to > > carry every single volume of law reports published throughout the United > > States. So if one were to go to a law library you can ask for any of these > > three and they should have at least one. > > > > In your normal dictionary such as a Webster's Dictionary you will find the > > word "society" defined as: > > > > 1. Compansionship or association with one's fellows: friendly or intimate > > intercourse: Company. 2. A voluntary association of individuals for common > > ends; esp: an organized group working together or periodically meeting > > because of common interests, beliefs,or profession. 3. (a) an enduring and > > cooperating social group whose members have developed organized patterns of > > relationships through interaction with one another (b) a community, nation, > > or broad grouping of people having common traditions, institutions, and > > collective activities and interests. 4. (a) a part of a community that is a > > unit distinguishable by particular aims or standards of living or conduct: a > > social circle or a groujp of social circles having a clearly marked identity < > > move in polite~> <literary ~> (b) a part of the community that sets itself > > apart as a leisure class and that regards itself as the arbiter of fashion > > and manners. 5. (a)(1) a natural group of plants us. of a single species or > > habit within an association (2) Association. 6 (b) the progeny of a pair of > > insections when constituting a social unit (as a hive of bees); broadly: an > > interdependent system of organizisms or biological units." > > > > Outside of the aspect of the definition which describes the word to nature I > > believe that the beginning parts which describe the Mayflower Society as > > defined as Nos. 1-3 apply. I believe that No. 4 is what the writer of the > > comment meaning "high society" is what that part of definition is applicable. > > > > Therefore, in conclusion, the Mayflower Society is just that: an > > organization that falls under No. 2: A voluntary association of individuals > > for common ends; esp: an organized group working together or periodically > > meeting because of common interests, beliefs,or profession. It has nothing > > to do with "high society" by any sense of the word. > > > > Christie Trapp > > > > > > ==== MAYFLOWER Mailing List ==== > > Check out the Mayflower FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions)page at http://www.macatawa.org/~crich/mayfaq.htm . > > > > > > > ==== MAYFLOWER Mailing List ==== > Check out the Mayflower FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions)page at http://www.macatawa.org/~crich/mayfaq.htm . > >