Susan wrote: >>I can't see that the obit proves the marriage. However - there are times when proof for a marriage just cannot be located and the lineage is still approved by the Historian General in Plymouth. Whether or not your lineage would be approved depends on how solid the rest of your documentation is.<< Hi Susan ~ Here's what I have..... through Abigail Church is in the silver books...... Name: Abigail Church Sex: F Birth: 8 OCT 1719 in Little Compton, Newport, Rhode Island then it goes to Seth Pope and Abigail Church..... Innocent Pope and Joshua Loring..... Betsy Loring and Elisha Blossom, Sr....... Elisha Blossom, Jr., and Maria Ann Anderson..... (all proven with VRs and/or solid histories, and/or newspaper marriages or obits.)..... Elisha William Blossom and Betsey Ann Smith (her parents are the ones I need a marriage record for, but I do have an obit. that states that her father was Stephen Smith, shipbuilder of NYC)......Minister's records and/or obits..... Mary Ann Blossom and Charles Carroll Hubbard - Minister's records and obits Agnes Hubbard (my grandmother).....actual marriage record .....and/or birth/death records and all other records down to me are actual marriage/birth/death records Is that enough proof? Dianne