In a message dated 11/19/2006 7:03:43 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: My Cushman line married into the Harlow family. Elder Thomas Cushman married Mary Allerton Lydia Cushman married William Harlow Their daughter, Lydia Harlow, married Barnabas Churchill Their son, Barnabas Churchill, married Lydia Holmes Their son, Barnabas Churchill, married Sarah Faunce Their son, Job Churchill, married Hannah Turner Harlow Their son, Cornelius Bradford Churchill first married Sarah F Cushing and second married Carrie Ross Taylor. He was the first in the line to leave Plymouth. C B Churchill and Carrie Ross Taylor's youngest son, Ernest Taylor Churchill was my greatgrandfather. I have two questions. First, I have found no family connection to Cornelius Bradford, but most members in this line are named after direct ancestors, so why was Job Churchill's son named Cornelius Bradford Churchill? Second, I am unsure about Hannah Turner Harlow's ancestory. I have her father as Jesse Harlow, but no information about his parents. I have also seen her father's name given as James Harlow, but I think that is incorrect. I have her mother listed as Hannah Turner, again no information about her parents. My source for names of children and marriage was Plymouth Vital Records Intention of Marriage - Book Two [p. 150] Marriage - Book Two p. 365 [271] Children - Book Two p. 401 [316] Laura Laura: I have a problem with the line as you present it. Their son, Barnabas Churchill, married Lydia Holmes Their son, Barnabas Churchill, married Sarah Faunce Their son, Job Churchill, married Hannah Turner Harlow According to what I have for this family line I have Barnabas Churchill married to Lydia Holmes. I have the next two - Barnabas and Job as brothers, not as father and son. Yes, Barnabas married Sarah Faunce and yes, Job Churchill married Hannah Turner Harlow. But as brother's they can't be father and son because of their relationship to Barnabas and Lydia as parents. The Barnabas Churchill who married Sarah Faunce was born 25 Nov. 1747 in Plymouth, married 8 Oct. 1780 to Sarah Faunce, dau. of Thomas Faunce and Sarah Bartlett. Barnabas and Sarah had 3 children: Barnabas, b. 19 Oct 1784; Job, b. 2 Mar 1787 and Barnabas, b. 5 Feb. 1789. Both Barnabas boys die, so that only leaves Job eligible for marriage and having children. Barnabas (1747) marries a second time to Lydia Sylvester. I have no children for the second wife. The Job who married Hannah Turner Harlow was born 17 Aug 1756 in Plymouth, married 21 Dec. 1808 to Hannah and left 7 children. These seven are: Barnabas (1810), Job (1812), Sylvanus Harlow (1815), Hannah Turner (1817), Sally (1819), Salley (1821) and Cornelius Bradford (1824) This family structure was found in the following sources: The Genealogy Committee of the Harlow Family compilers & Alicia Crane Wiliams, ed. Harlow Family: Descendants of Sgt. William Harlow (1624/5-1691) of Plymouth, Massachusetts. Baltimore: Gateway Press, 1997. Vital Records of Plymouth, MA. The children of Barnabas Churchill Jr. and Lydia his wife are listed in the Plymouth VR, p. 140. This clearly puts Barnabas and Job as children in the same family, not as father and son as you suggest. On pg. 226 it lists the children of Job Churchill and Hannah T. his wife and names the seven children I just listed above. The intention of marriage of Job Churchell and Hannah Turner Harlow is on p. 303. The marriage of Job Churchell and Hannah Harlow is on p. 381. The children of Barnabas Churchill and Sarah his wife is on p. 393 - those three children I've listed above where it states that both boys named Barnabas were born and died and gives the birth and death date for Job. He doesn't die until March 27, 1826, so he has plenty of time to get married and have children. Job's death is also recorded on pg. 476 and again on pg. 503, though this time, it says he died on the 23rd of March rather than the 28th of March. His father, Barnabas's death is recorded on the same page along with Lydia, his second wife. The marriage of Cornelius B. Churchill and Sarah F. Cushing is recorded on pg. 613. It says his parents are Job and Hannah T. and her parents are Ezra & Betsey R. Cushing. The marriage of Ezra is on p. 322, 1825 Dec. 21 Ezra Cushing & Betsey R. Allen both of Plymouth. There is no birth record for Ezra or Betsey R. The birth of Barnabas (1686) is on pg. 53, his children are listed on p. 53, his marriage on p. 90 & 104. The intention of marriage of Barnabas Churchell, Jr. & Lydia Holmes is on pg. 159. The intention of marriage of Barnabas Churchell and Sarah Faunce is on p. 268 and the marriage on p 363. The death of Lydia Sylvester Churchill is reported on p. 476. The second marriage of Cornelius Bradford Churchill is not recorded in Plymouth VRs. Where did you find it? I agree with you about the Bradford name. I can't seem to see a Bradford connection. But maybe they just admired Mr. Bradford and decided to add his name to the mix just to confuse you and the rest of us. Of course, I do have some holes in the ancestry, so it is possible that the Bradford family connects somewhere, but I just don't have it yet. The ancestry of Hannah Turner Harlow is found on p. 401-402. She is listed as one of 11 children in the family of Jesse Harlow Jr. and Hannah. Hannah T. was born 12 June 1789. Jesse married Hannah Turner, p. 365, on Dec. 12, 1784, the intention is on p. 271 Aug. 28, 1784. They were both of Plymouth. There is no birth record for Hannah Turner, so even though the marriage entry says of Plymouth, her birth is not recorded in Plymouth. So she might have actually been born some place else. If I have my facts correct, Jesse's parents were: Jessie Harlow and Elizabeth Samson, both of Plymouth, married on April 23, 1762. p. 355. On p. 296 Capt. Jesse Harlow filing an intention to marry on June 8, 1804 a Miss Salley Cotton, both of Plymouth. This is his second marriage. Jesse's parents were John Harlow and Mary Rider and I can take this line back to Richard Warren through his daughter Mary Warren who married Robert Bartlett from both John and Mary. Elizabeth Sampson/Samson is a descendant of Myles Standish and John Alden. I don't have a connection for her Sampson/Samson line yet to connect her to the Mayflower Sampson, but you can check the Sampson volume to be sure. If you need her line, as I have it, let me know. There is a marriage intention, p. 321 for a Jesse Harlow and Mary Lothrop Nelson, both of Plymouth on Nov. 16, 1819 and the marriage, p.317, on Oct. 3, 1819. Whether this is a second marriage for Jesse Jr., I'm not sure yet. The time would be right, if Hannah Turner's death occurred before this date. Otherwise, there is another Jesse Harlow getting married. In conclusion, starting with Cornelius, his ancestry should be: Job Churchill - Hannah Turner Harlow Barnabas Churchill -Lydia Holmes Barnabas Churchill - Lydia Harlow William Harlow - Lydia Cushman Thomas Cushman - Mary Allerton Isaac Allerton - Mary Norris Going back to William Harlow - Lydia Cushman, you can reach Richard Warren by William Harlow - Rebecca Bartlett Robert Bartlett - Mary Warren Richard Warren - Elizabeth Walker Jesse Harlow Jr. - Hannah Turner Jesse Harlow - Elizabeth Sampson/Samson Noah Sampson - Jemima Rider Nathaniel Samson - Keturah Chandler Abraham Samson - Lora Standish - check about this one to see if Abraham connects to Mayflower Henry Samson Alexander Standish - Sarah Alden to John Alden - Priscilla Mullins Myles Standish - Barbara ?? I hope this helps to straighten out your family records with the correct lineage.