> 2. Re: Allerton-Cushman line ([email protected])>Date: Mon, 20 Nov >2006 07:05:19 EST >From: [email protected] > >In a message dated 11/19/2006 7:03:43 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, >>C B Churchill and Carrie Ross Taylor's youngest son, Ernest Taylor >>Churchill >was my greatgrandfather. >Laura: > >I have a problem with the line as you present it. > >Their son, Barnabas Churchill, married Lydia Holmes >Their son, Barnabas Churchill, married Sarah Faunce >Their son, Job Churchill, married Hannah Turner Harlow > >According to what I have for this family line I have Barnabas Churchill >married to Lydia Holmes. I have the next two - Barnabas and Job as >brothers, not >as father and son. Christie - Thank-you for all the information! I had several connections to Mary Warren and Robert Bartlett, but this is the first I've heard about a Miles Standish connection. The name Barnabas Churchill and Job Churchill were used way too frequently. I have six Barnabas Churchills in my records and five Job Churchills. The two Jobs who were sons of Barnabas Churchill and Lydia Holmes were, first born 15 Jan 1751 died 14 Jan 1753, and second born 17 Aug 1756. These two Job Churchills had a brother named Barnabas who, as you pointed out, married Sarah Faunce. > >Yes, Barnabas married Sarah Faunce and yes, Job Churchill married Hannah >Turner Harlow. But as brother's they can't be father and son because of >their >relationship to Barnabas and Lydia as parents. > >The Barnabas Churchill who married Sarah Faunce was born 25 Nov. 1747 in >Plymouth, married 8 Oct. 1780 to Sarah Faunce, dau. of Thomas Faunce and >Sarah >Bartlett. Barnabas and Sarah had 3 children: Barnabas, b. 19 Oct 1784; >Job, >b. 2 Mar 1787 and Barnabas, b. 5 Feb. 1789. Both Barnabas boys die, so >that >only leaves Job eligible for marriage and having children. Barnabas >(1747) >marries a second time to Lydia Sylvester. I have no children for the >second >wife. That matches what I have. However, I question which Job Churchill married Hannah Turner Harlow. How likely is it that Job Churchill, son of Barnabas, married at age 52 and went on to have seven children? Especially since there is another Job Churchill, also son of (a different) Barnabas who was born 2 Mar 1787 and would have been 21 when he married and Hannah T Harlow was two years younger. You also have the younger Job Churchill's death in 1826, two years after the birth of Cornelius Bradford Churchill. I wonder if the birth date of the wrong Job was copied from one source to another. Churchill Family in America has the version I have, although I have found other errors in that book and I don't view it as an authority. >The Job who married Hannah Turner Harlow was born 17 Aug 1756 in Plymouth, >married 21 Dec. 1808 to Hannah and left 7 children. > >These seven are: Barnabas (1810), Job (1812), Sylvanus Harlow (1815), >Hannah Turner (1817), Sally (1819), Salley (1821) and Cornelius Bradford >(1824) > This also matches what I have, but the following is mostly new for me and VERY MUCH APPRECIATED! >This family structure was found in the following sources: > >The Genealogy Committee of the Harlow Family compilers & Alicia Crane >Wiliams, ed. Harlow Family: Descendants of Sgt. William Harlow >(1624/5-1691) of >Plymouth, Massachusetts. Baltimore: Gateway Press, 1997. > >Vital Records of Plymouth, MA. > >The children of Barnabas Churchill Jr. and Lydia his wife are listed in the >Plymouth VR, p. 140. This clearly puts Barnabas and Job as children in the >same family, not as father and son as you suggest. > >On pg. 226 it lists the children of Job Churchill and Hannah T. his wife >and >names the seven children I just listed above. > >The intention of marriage of Job Churchell and Hannah Turner Harlow is on >p. >303. > >The marriage of Job Churchell and Hannah Harlow is on p. 381. > >The children of Barnabas Churchill and Sarah his wife is on p. 393 - those >three children I've listed above where it states that both boys named >Barnabas >were born and died and gives the birth and death date for Job. He doesn't >die until March 27, 1826, so he has plenty of time to get married and have >children. Job's death is also recorded on pg. 476 and again on pg. 503, >though >this time, it says he died on the 23rd of March rather than the 28th of >March. His father, Barnabas's death is recorded on the same page along >with >Lydia, his second wife. > >The marriage of Cornelius B. Churchill and Sarah F. Cushing is recorded on >pg. 613. It says his parents are Job and Hannah T. and her parents are >Ezra & >Betsey R. Cushing. The marriage of Ezra is on p. 322, 1825 Dec. 21 Ezra >Cushing & Betsey R. Allen both of Plymouth. There is no birth record for >Ezra >or Betsey R. > >The birth of Barnabas (1686) is on pg. 53, his children are listed on p. >53, >his marriage on p. 90 & 104. > >The intention of marriage of Barnabas Churchell, Jr. & Lydia Holmes is on >pg. 159. > >The intention of marriage of Barnabas Churchell and Sarah Faunce is on p. >268 and the marriage on p 363. > >The death of Lydia Sylvester Churchill is reported on p. 476. > >The second marriage of Cornelius Bradford Churchill is not recorded in >Plymouth VRs. Where did you find it? > The second marriage was 6 Dec 1856 in Natchez, Mississippi to Carrie Ross Taylor, born 6 Dec 1835 in Philadelphia. Cornelius Bradford Churchill went to Nachez after his first wife died and died in New Orleans 6 Nov 1879. I don't know what happened to Sarah Cushing Churchill, born 10 Oct 1852. His widow, Carrie Ross Taylor, died in Nachez 26 Jan 1931. She appears on the 1880 census as C B Churchill. Name Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace C.B. CHURCHILL Self W Female W 44 PA Keeps House PA PA John H. CHURCHILL Son S Male W 22 MS Bookkeeper Foundry MA PA Ernest CHURCHILL Son S Male W 20 MS Machinist MA PA Wm. H. CHURCHILL Son S Male W 16 AL Order Clerk AL PA Cornelius CHURCHILL Son S Male W 13 MS At School MA PA Albert CHURCHILL Son S Male W 8 MS At School MA PA Frank CHURCHILL Son S Male W 4 LA At Home MA PA Carry CHURCHILL Dau S Female W 1 LA At Home MA PA Wilson SCHELDON Cousin S Male W 30 PA Book Keeper PA ENG Theresa SHEPPARD Other S Female W 22 LA Nurse Servant LA LA Ann GOULD Other W Female B 55 VA Cook Servant VA VA Source Information: 1880 census Census Place New Orleans, Orleans, Louisiana Family History Library Film 1254463 NA Film Number T9-0463 Page Number 395D > >I agree with you about the Bradford name. I can't seem to see a Bradford >connection. But maybe they just admired Mr. Bradford and decided to add >his >name to the mix just to confuse you and the rest of us. Of course, I do >have >some holes in the ancestry, so it is possible that the Bradford family >connects somewhere, but I just don't have it yet. > > >The ancestry of Hannah Turner Harlow is found on p. 401-402. She is >listed >as one of 11 children in the family of Jesse Harlow Jr. and Hannah. >Hannah >T. was born 12 June 1789. Jesse married Hannah Turner, p. 365, on Dec. >12, >1784, the intention is on p. 271 Aug. 28, 1784. They were both of >Plymouth. >There is no birth record for Hannah Turner, so even though the marriage >entry >says of Plymouth, her birth is not recorded in Plymouth. So she might >have >actually been born some place else. > >If I have my facts correct, Jesse's parents were: Jessie Harlow and >Elizabeth Samson, both of Plymouth, married on April 23, 1762. p. 355. On >p. 296 >Capt. Jesse Harlow filing an intention to marry on June 8, 1804 a Miss >Salley >Cotton, both of Plymouth. This is his second marriage. Jesse's parents >were >John Harlow and Mary Rider and I can take this line back to Richard Warren >through his daughter Mary Warren who married Robert Bartlett from both >John and >Mary. Elizabeth Sampson/Samson is a descendant of Myles Standish and John >Alden. I don't have a connection for her Sampson/Samson line yet to >connect >her to the Mayflower Sampson, but you can check the Sampson volume to be >sure. >If you need her line, as I have it, let me know. > >There is a marriage intention, p. 321 for a Jesse Harlow and Mary Lothrop >Nelson, both of Plymouth on Nov. 16, 1819 and the marriage, p.317, on Oct. >3, >1819. Whether this is a second marriage for Jesse Jr., I'm not sure yet. >The >time would be right, if Hannah Turner's death occurred before this date. >Otherwise, there is another Jesse Harlow getting married. > >In conclusion, starting with Cornelius, his ancestry should be: >Job Churchill - Hannah Turner Harlow >Barnabas Churchill -Lydia Holmes >Barnabas Churchill - Lydia Harlow >William Harlow - Lydia Cushman >Thomas Cushman - Mary Allerton >Isaac Allerton - Mary Norris > >Going back to William Harlow - Lydia Cushman, you can reach Richard Warren >by >William Harlow - Rebecca Bartlett >Robert Bartlett - Mary Warren >Richard Warren - Elizabeth Walker > >Jesse Harlow Jr. - Hannah Turner >Jesse Harlow - Elizabeth Sampson/Samson >Noah Sampson - Jemima Rider >Nathaniel Samson - Keturah Chandler >Abraham Samson - Lora Standish - check about this one to see if Abraham >connects to Mayflower Henry Samson >Alexander Standish - Sarah Alden to John Alden - Priscilla Mullins >Myles Standish - Barbara ?? > >I hope this helps to straighten out your family records with the correct >lineage.