It was extraordinary! I'm going to order the DVD. Somebody mentioned why English people referred to America long before the Pilgrims.... I'm a bit nieve and new to this subject, however, didn't people come over here before the Mayflower and landed, who settled in Jamestown, Virginia? I lived in Portsmouth, Virginia Beach and Norfolk Virginia before I got interested in genealogy, and the people of Virginia told me that they had claim to the first settlement in Jamestown. I'm a bit confused. Thank you for anybody willing to take the time to help me figure this history out. did the Mayflower make her first trip to Virginia years before. -D

No not the Mayflower, but yes three ships brought the first English to Virginia in 1607. They settled in what they called Jamestown, on the river they called the James. They suffered the same hardships and fears that our Northern cousins went through. We are having our 100th anv. all of next year, from Jan till Dec. Come and join the fun. Hope -------Original Message------- From: [email protected] Date: 11/20/06 14:14:03 To: [email protected] Subject: [MFLR] my 2 cents on Mayflower Movie... It was extraordinary! I'm going to order the DVD. Somebody mentioned why English people referred to America long before the Pilgrims.... I'm a bit nieve and new to this subject, however, didn't people come over here before the Mayflower and landed, who settled in Jamestown, Virginia? I lived in Portsmouth, Virginia Beach and Norfolk Virginia before I got interested in genealogy, and the people of Virginia told me that they had claim to the first settlement in Jamestown. I'm a bit confused. Thank you for anybody willing to take the time to help me figure this history out. did the Mayflower make her first trip to Virginia years before. -D ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.7/538 - Release Date: 11/18/2006 .

Should have read our 400th anniversary. -------Original Message------- From: HopeStanley Date: 11/20/06 14:26:22 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MFLR] my 2 cents on Mayflower Movie... No not the Mayflower, but yes three ships brought the first English to Virginia in 1607. They settled in what they called Jamestown, on the river they called the James. They suffered the same hardships and fears that our Northern cousins went through. We are having our 100th anv. all of next year, from Jan till Dec. Come and join the fun. Hope -------Original Message------- From: [email protected] Date: 11/20/06 14:14:03 To: [email protected] Subject: [MFLR] my 2 cents on Mayflower Movie... It was extraordinary! I'm going to order the DVD. Somebody mentioned why English people referred to America long before the Pilgrims.... I'm a bit nieve and new to this subject, however, didn't people come over here before the Mayflower and landed, who settled in Jamestown, Virginia? I lived in Portsmouth, Virginia Beach and Norfolk Virginia before I got interested in genealogy, and the people of Virginia told me that they had claim to the first settlement in Jamestown. I'm a bit confused. Thank you for anybody willing to take the time to help me figure this history out. did the Mayflower make her first trip to Virginia years before. -D ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.7/538 - Release Date: 11/18/2006 .. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.7/538 - Release Date: 11/18/2006 .

You are so right. Their hardships and deaths were no less than the Mayflower passengers... more so maybe as they lost more people. But they don't get the recognition for anything now do they? Except for maybe the Jamestown ancestors. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of HopeStanley Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 2:25 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MFLR] my 2 cents on Mayflower Movie... No not the Mayflower, but yes three ships brought the first English to Virginia in 1607. They settled in what they called Jamestown, on the river they called the James. They suffered the same hardships and fears that our Northern cousins went through. We are having our 100th anv. all of next year, from Jan till Dec. Come and join the fun. Hope -------Original Message------- From: [email protected] Date: 11/20/06 14:14:03 To: [email protected] Subject: [MFLR] my 2 cents on Mayflower Movie... It was extraordinary! I'm going to order the DVD. Somebody mentioned why English people referred to America long before the Pilgrims.... I'm a bit nieve and new to this subject, however, didn't people come over here before the Mayflower and landed, who settled in Jamestown, Virginia? I lived in Portsmouth, Virginia Beach and Norfolk Virginia before I got interested in genealogy, and the people of Virginia told me that they had claim to the first settlement in Jamestown. I'm a bit confused. Thank you for anybody willing to take the time to help me figure this history out. did the Mayflower make her first trip to Virginia years before. -D ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.7/538 - Release Date: 11/18/2006 . ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

With the "America" discussion on this list but there was one interesting point of the show in that when they first saw land they referred ti it as cape cod. Now that is where they first landed and the depiction of the terrine is consistent with That part of the cape. I wouldn't not thought that particular piece of land had been named in 1620. however I found this on wiki Cape Cod was a landmark for early explorers, possibly the "Promontory of Vinland" mentioned by the Norse voyagers (985-1025). Giovanni da Verrazzano in 1524 approached it from the south, and Gomez the next year called it Cape St. James. Bartholomew Gosnold in 1602 gave it the name that survives. Samuel de Champlain charted its sand-silted harbors in 1606 and Henry Hudson landed there in 1609. Captain John Smith noted it on his map of 1614 and at last the Pilgrims entered the "Cape Harbor" and--contrary to the popular myth of Plymouth Rock--made their first landing near present-day Provincetown on November 11, 1620. Nearby, in what is now Eastham, they had their first encounter with Native Americans. [email protected] wrote: > It was extraordinary! I'm going to order the DVD. Somebody mentioned > why English people referred to America long before the Pilgrims.... > > I'm a bit nieve and new to this subject, however, didn't people come over > here before the Mayflower and landed, who settled in Jamestown, Virginia? > > I lived in Portsmouth, Virginia Beach and Norfolk Virginia before I got > interested in genealogy, and the people of Virginia told me that they had claim > to the first settlement in Jamestown. > > I'm a bit confused. Thank you for anybody willing to take the time to help > me figure this history out. did the Mayflower make her first trip to > Virginia years before. > > -D > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >