That is a very interesting story. It would be great if our ancestors could come back and tell us about the misery they encountered in order to found this country. There was so much sorrow and heartache that they took for granted. For some reason I did not realize that only five women survived the winter. Their lives must have really been hard but they must have been strong women. I watched the show again on Thanksgiving as I just saw part of it the first time. Our electricity here went out for three hours and I was upset. However, it really made me realize what a wonderful life we have as we sat eating our drive through hamburgers by lamplight! Joyce Moore Kathie <[email protected]> wrote: have been reading all the e-mails concerning the movie and thought I would add my thoughts. I enjoyed the movie very much. I taped it and will watch it again soon. I also read Caleb Johnson's review. I am glad he had such a nice review of the movie. I think it would have made a great mini-series. My Mayflower line is from Edward Fuller. My 6th g-gm was Hannah Bonham Stout, (2nd great g-daughter to Edward Fuller). Speaking of Indians and such... some of you might not know the story of the Stout family. My 8th great grandmother was Penelope Stout. There are many stories about her on the web. The stories do vary somewhat but the basic facts stay the same. ------------------------ One version is.... Penelope was probably born about 1622 in England. Her father is believed to have been a Puritan Baptist Separatist who was banished from his church and who fled to Holland with his family. Penelope joined her young husband and other Dutch settlers headed for New Amsterdam in 1640. Violent storms caught their ship, drove it off course and finally wrecked it off Sandy Hook. All survived, and the passengers and crew set off for New Amsterdam on foot, leaving Penelope on the beach to nurse her desperately ill husband (whose name was never recorded by Penelope and all of the large brood she would later rear.) Indians found the couple on the beach, killed the husband and left Penelope viciously hacked. The young widow lay unconscious, her skull fractured, her left arm so mangled that it would never again be normal and her abdomen slashed open. Somehow she revived and crawled into a hollow tree, where two Indians found her several days later. Penelope prayed that they might end her misery and the younger Indian was willing to oblige. The older Indian dissented, carried her over his shoulder to camp, and there nursed her back to health. She stayed with the Indians, working, learning their language and their ways. Some of her shipwrecked friends returned after a time and asked the Indians to give her up. Penelope's Indian benefactor said he would let the young woman decide for herself. Penelope decided to leave, "very much to the surprise of this good Indian," according to Frank Stocktons' version. About two years later Penelope met Richard Stout who had left Nottingham, England, because of parental disapproval of his love affair with a girl they considered socially inferior. He enlisted in the navy, served for seven years and left ship in New Amsterdam when his enlistment ended. ------------------ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message