I surely appreciate all the data and help that is going on abt my great great grandfather Joseph Doty. I have no where at any time found him living in Minnesota. BUT...that's not saying he didn't. On his marriage record to Eliza Coffy/Mrs. Monda it is stated that they both are of Mishawaka, Indiana, yet I have not been able to find any record that either one of them lived there. again, they might of, but not long enough to create any sort of record. In Eliza's obit it says she belonged to the M.E. church. but again, I have not been able to find any church records showing either one of them being a member. I have not been able to find any death record of Joseph, except his obit which states he died at his sons (Willis) home in Lookout, Woods Co. OK; and I know that he is buried at Alva, Woods Co. OK, as I have been to his grave site. His tombstone is a military civil war one. Eliza didn't have a headstone, she is buried according to the cemetery records right next to him. So I bought a small headstone for her and at the bottom of the stone I had them put:"great great grandmother of Geanellen." hoping by doing that, that someone else researching the family and visited the grave sites, would see my name and try and get in contact with me. I have gone to allot of different means trying to let people know who I am and what I am looking for. Anyways...thanks again for all your help, ideas and suggestions, hopefully we'll be able to "crack " open this tightly closed case soon. geanellen. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 10:00 PM Subject: MAYFLOWER Digest, Vol 1, Issue 35 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: MAYFLOWER Digest, Vol 1, Issue 32 (Harlow Chandler) > 2. Re: MAYFLOWER Digest, Vol 1, Issue 34 (lynde randall) > 3. Re: DOTY (James Crippen) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 09:34:38 -0500 (EST) > From: Harlow Chandler <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [MFLR] MAYFLOWER Digest, Vol 1, Issue 32 > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: > <[email protected]nk.net> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Hi folks, > >>From a web search it looks to me as though many people would very much >>like to know who Joseph was. I know virtually nothing about this, but it >>is an interesting puzzle and I'm hoping for a fuller explanation of this >>solution. > > I am having trouble understanding what source goes with what fact, but in > any case it looks to me as though the critical point here is to connect > the Joseph who married Eliza Coffee to his parents. I am not seeing how > that is done. > > I do see in the Ethan Allen Doty book of 1897 the family of Solomon Doty > (page 517) and that there is a Joseph born on June 6, 1812. > > To digress a bit on that source, it appears to me that the information > given on that family was supplied by a sibling, Simon Potter Doty. If I > am right it is not through any special deductive prowess--the book reads, > "In the course of a pleasant visit...he gave many reminiscences...and > furnished much valuable information for this history." The precise birth > dates suggest to me that Simon Potter dragged out the family bible while > Ethan Allen was visiting. > > All that is said of Joseph is that he married and had children and lived > in Minnesota. > > Geanellen's peripatetic ancestor lived in many places and I may have > missed Minnesota among them as I looked at what Geanellen and others have > found. Also, this is apparently the recollection of an old man, and I > know from experience that one needs to be skeptical about that. So maybe > the Minnesota recollection is wrong or maybe Geanellen's ancestor did live > there. > > As far as I can tell, the lineage down to Solomon and maybe down Solomon's > son Joseph is documented well elsewhere. But how do we know this is the > Joseph who married Eliza and is Geanellen's ancestor? If the answer is > included in what was provided and I missed it I apologize for asking the > question. Most of the time I need the important stuff in all caps. > > > > [For what it is worth, I have a CD of NY births and baptisms for the > region as well as William McDermott's history of Clinton (1987) and > neither offers any help.] > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- >>From: lynde randall <[email protected]> >>Sent: Oct 31, 2006 9:56 PM >>To: [email protected] >>Subject: Re: [MFLR] MAYFLOWER Digest, Vol 1, Issue 32 >> >>Hi James, >> >>I hope this gives you a start in the right direction. >:) Your message is >>at >>the end. You'll find sources which should help. >> >>Lynde Randall >>Yarmouth, ME >>==================================================================== >>Joseph Doty >>f: Solomon Doty >>m; Hannah Shaw >>b.6 Jun 1812, New York, Greene, Windham >>d: 30 Apr 1906 OK, Woods, Alva >>m. Eliza Coffee on 30 Dec 1852, MI, Cass, Edwardsburg >>b. 1826, New York >>d: 30 Nov 1903; OK, Woods, Alva >>............... >>Name: Eliza COFFEE (MONDA) >>Given Name: Eliza >>Surname: Coffee (Monda) >>Sex: F >>Birth: 1826 in NY >>Death: 30 Nov 1903 in OK, Woods Co., Alva >> >>Marriage 1 Joseph DOTY b: 6 Jun 1812 in NY,Greene Co.,Windham >>Married: 30 Dec 1852 in MI, Cass Co., Edwardsburg >>............................................................................ >>.... >>---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>---- >>ID: I541011866 >>Name: Joseph DOTY >>Given Name: Joseph >>Surname: Doty >>Sex: M >>Birth: 6 Jun 1812 in NY,Greene Co.,Windham >>Death: 30 Apr 1906 in OK, Woods Co., Alva >>Change Date: 28 Jun 2003 >> >>Father: Solomon DOTY b: 1769 in NY,Dutchess Co.,Clinton >>Mother: Hannah SHAW b: 1776 >> >>Marriage 1 Eliza COFFEE (MONDA) b: 1826 in NY >>Married: 30 Dec 1852 in MI, Cass Co., Edwardsburg >>....................................................................... >>ID: I541013709 >>Name: Solomon DOTY >>Given Name: Solomon >>Surname: Doty >>Sex: M >>Birth: 1769 in NY,Dutchess Co.,Clinton >>Death: Aug 1832 in NY,Wayne Co.,Walworth >>Change Date: 3 Jul 2003 1 2 >> >>Father: Charles DOTY b: c 1730 in NY,Oyster Bay,Long Island >>Mother: Sarah BAKER >> >>Marriage 1 Hannah SHAW b: 1776 >>Married: c 1793 in NY,Dutchess Co.,Clinton >>Note: _STATMARRIED >>Children >> Moses DOTY b: 8 Feb 1795 in NY,Dutchess Co.,Clinton >> Simon Potter DOTY b: 9 May 1796 in NY,Dutchess Co.,Clinton >> Solomon DOTY b: 14 Jan 1797 in NY,Dutchess Co.,Clinton >> Celinda DOTY b: 17 Nov 1799 in NY,Dutchess Co.,Clinton >> Morgan Lewis DOTY b: 31 Dec 1802 in NY,Columbia Co.,Hillsdale >> Jason DOTY b: 20 Sep 1804 in NY,Columbia Co.,Hillsdale >> Mary DOTY b: 19 May 1806 in NY,Greene Co.,Windham >> Aaron DOTY b: 30 Aug 1808 in NY,Greene Co.,Windham >> William DOTY b: 22 Nov 1810 in NY,Greene Co.,Windham >> Joseph DOTY b: 6 Jun 1812 in NY,Greene Co.,Windham >> Edward DOTY b: 11 Jul 1814 in NY,Greene Co.,Windham >> Margaret DOTY b: 17 Oct 1816 in NY,Wayne Co.,Walworth >> Lorenzo DOTY b: 9 May 1819 in NY,Wayne Co.,Walworth >> Lorinda DOTY b: 9 May 1819 in NY,Wayne Co.,Walworth >> >>Marriage 2 Rachel DOTY b: in NY,Dutchess Co.,Clinton >>Married: c 1787 in NY,Dutchess Co.,Clinton 1 >>Note: _STATMARRIED >>Children >> Charles DOTY b: 1789 in NY,Dutchess Co. >> Isaac DOTY >> James DOTY >> Baby DOTY >> >>Sources: >>Title: Connecticut, 1600s-1800s Local Families and Histories >>Page: New England Families, Vol.3 Pg 1273 >>Title: The Compendium of American Genealogy; 1600s-1800s >>Page: First Families of America, Vol.5 Pg 245 >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 16:05:20 -0500 > From: "lynde randall" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [MFLR] MAYFLOWER Digest, Vol 1, Issue 34 > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > I think I added to the confusion. Looking this email over again I mailed > to a James and it should have been (GEANELLEN) Sorry about that. I won't > send the whole answer again as it came through twice on the last email. > >:) > > Lynde > > Message: 6 > Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 19:34:28 -0800 (PST) > From: Dana Majernik <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [MFLR] Joseph Doty. > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > I hope this gives you a start in the right direction. >:) Your message > is at the end. You'll find sources which should help. > > Lynde Randall > Yarmouth, ME > ======================================================== > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2006 20:20:13 -0900 > From: James Crippen <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [MFLR] DOTY > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Still up to your usual good work I see. > JC3 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: genferret2 <[email protected]> > Date: Monday, October 30, 2006 2:58 am > Subject: Re: [MFLR] DOTY > To: [email protected] > >> >> >> ----- Original Message ---- >> From: James Crippen <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 2:52:29 AM >> Subject: Re: [MFLR] DOTY >> >> Geanellen ?: >> I have read the two answers to your query . The genferret is an >> exceptional researcher. His calculator may not be working. 1st, a >> 12 year old in the Civil War veteran is cause for wonder, albeit >> possible. >> >> >> >> >> Aw shucks, James. >> >> However, if you go back and read what I said, the weasel's >> obsession with personal research honor will be appeased. The 1852 >> date is quoted from the original query. The Genferret pointed out >> that the actual date was 1812, which in fact the lady asking for >> assistance does know, as is evidenced by the mass of information >> which she has collected already on Joseph Doty. (Actually, he was >> kind of old for the war.) I merely wanted to mention that typo so >> that those capable of helping might have a sounder foundation. A >> quick check of the census, you may infer I know from experience, >> will show what the proper date must be. >> >> I do hope someone can help, and if so, please do look at that >> earlier message, which gives lots of information to get started >> with. I've used up what I can put my paws on and can't get any >> further than she has already. >> >> Now, let's get back to that pleasant theme you introduced. "An >> exceptional researcher.".. And? >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MAYFLOWER- >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the MAYFLOWER list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the MAYFLOWER mailing list, send an email to > [email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of MAYFLOWER Digest, Vol 1, Issue 35 > **************************************** >