In a message dated 12/5/2006 7:17:58 AM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: He also does not appear in my copy of the DAR Patriot Index. I do not have Berthold Fernow, "New York in the Revolution" (Albany, NY: 1887) which is cited as a source in the MF6 entry for Thatcher's family. ______________________________________________ In my copy of the DAR Patriot Index (1968 edition) Thatcher HOPKINS appears as follows: HOPKINS Thatcher, b 1754 d 7-7-1830 m (1) Eleanor Regan (2) Mrs Mary Green Pvt NY Best regards, Hugh