Christie, Another date that bothers me is the birth date I was given for John Freeman.If he was born 2-3-1665;He had to have his son John when he was 13.Son was born 7-1678.Cant be right. Norm ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 3:11 PM Subject: Re: [MFLR] Mayflower Ancestors > > In a message dated 11/30/2006 7:47:04 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > 15-Me 1937- > Wife-Ernestine 1939 > 5 children & 13 grandchildren. > 12-Jonathan A James > > > > Who is 12 - Jonathan A. James? Is he really generation 13? > > Who is the ME in generation 12? Are you Norman V. -- being a Junior? > > Mercy Prence 1639-1711 MF#27345 > John Freeman 1625-1719 > John Freeman 1665 MF#13260 > John Freeman 1678-1767 MF#13261 > Mercy Watson 1683-1745 > > > I'm a bit confused by the dates of birth you list for both Mercy > Prence and > John Freeman. For Mercy I have bef 28 Sept 1631 and you give a date 8 > years > later. Where did you get that year? For John I have about 1622, you > gave > 1625. Where did you get that year? > > You didn't list a wife for their son John Freeman and the year of > death is > not what I have found. You say John Freeman died 1665. I have 27 > July 1721. > Could this 1665 date be for some other child? His wife's name - and > he had > two, but the one you need is Sarah Merrick. > > <It was really strange that all lines descended to Nicholas King & > Lydia > Barlow and followed on to myself.> Yeap. That's the way it usually > works! > > Christie Trapp > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I also have Freeman ancestry. Here's what I have. John Freeman, b. 1536 Suxxex, England Edmund Freeman, b. 1566 Pulborough, Sessex County, England (immigrated to Massachusetts Bay Colony in 1635; settled in Sudbury in 1639. Married Alice Cole.) John Freeman, b. circa 1600 England, died 1648 Sudbury MA, m. Elizabeth Noyes. Sergeant Joseph Freeman, b. March 29, 1645, Sudbury MN, d. Feb 2, 1697/98 Preston CT, married Dorothy Haynes on May 6, 1680, in Sudbury MA. John Freeman, b. March 16, 1680/81 Sudbury MA, d. June 25, 1725, m. Abigail Witter, had the following children: Dorothy, Elizabeth, John, Ebenezer, James, Abigail, and Sarah. James Freeman, b. Jan 1716/17 Preston CT; baptized March 31, 1717 Preston CT, d. Jan 5, 1802; m. Phebe Kinne Aug 16, 1739 Preston CT Elisha Freeman, b.l Sept 4, 1756 Norwich CT, d before Sept 7, 1834 Napoli, Cataraugus Cty, NY; m. Miriam Burr (1st cousin to Aaron Burr) Rosamond Freeman, b. May 20, 1787, d. Jan 27, 1847, m. Alval Cole on Jan 8, 1804. So it goes like this: Henry Freeman m. Mary Wintesholl (sp?) John Freeman m. Miss Isham Edmund Freeman m. Alice Cole John Freeman m. Elizabeth Noyes Sergeant Joseph Freeman m. Dorothy Haynes John Freeman m. Abigail Witter James Freeman m. Phebe Kinne Elisha Freeman m. Miriam Burr Rosamond Freeman m. Alvah Cole Peter Burr Cole m. Harriet Luper (Lupher) Flora (Winnie) Cole (unmarried) Cordie Cole m. Peter A. Downey (her first cousin) Anna Effie Gertrude Cole m. William Downey Peter A. Downey m. Cordie Cole Bernice Downey (unmarried until later) Colleen Sue Downey m. Barry Morse (and divorced him) Jennifer Morse m. David Spartz Justin Ulysses Morse (unmarried so far) Charles Thomas Downey m. Rebecca Mason (Charles changed his name to Downey; it was Morse) (Charles and Becky are not planning to have kids.) Marcus Alexander Champlin Children of Elisha Freeman and Miriam Burr Rebecca, b. 1781 Betsey, b. 1783 Sarah, b. 1785 Rosamond, b. 1787 Lois, b. 1790 Elisha, b & d 1790 Susannah, b. 1792 Stephen, b. 1794 Clarissa, b. 1796 Rheuby, b. 1798 Children of James Freeman & Phebe Kinne Ezra (1740 - 1793) James (1742 - 1820) Amos (1745 - 1762) Phebe (1747 - 1786) Gideon (1749 - 1809) Silas (1752 - 1809) Elijah (1754 - 1836) Elisha (1756 - 1834) Stephen (1759 - 1827) Lois (1761 - 1840) Children of John Freeman & Abigail Witter Dorothy, b. 1709 John (1712 - 1795) Ebenezer, b. 1714 James, b. circa 1717 Abigail, b. 1718 Sarah, b. 1724 Children of Sergeant Joseph Freeman & Dorothy Haynes John (1680 - 1725) Joseph (1684 - 1733) Dorothy (1687 - 1725) Elizabeth (1690 - 1757) Children of John Freeman & Elizabeth Noyes Joseph (1645 - 1698) James (1647 - 1647) Elizabeth, b. 1648 Colleen Downey Morse Minnesota "Norman V. James" <[email protected]> wrote: Christie, Another date that bothers me is the birth date I was given for John Freeman.If he was born 2-3-1665;He had to have his son John when he was 13.Son was born 7-1678.Cant be right. Norm ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 3:11 PM Subject: Re: [MFLR] Mayflower Ancestors > > In a message dated 11/30/2006 7:47:04 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > 15-Me 1937- > Wife-Ernestine 1939 > 5 children & 13 grandchildren. > 12-Jonathan A James > > > > Who is 12 - Jonathan A. James? Is he really generation 13? > > Who is the ME in generation 12? Are you Norman V. -- being a Junior? > > Mercy Prence 1639-1711 MF#27345 > John Freeman 1625-1719 > John Freeman 1665 MF#13260 > John Freeman 1678-1767 MF#13261 > Mercy Watson 1683-1745 > > > I'm a bit confused by the dates of birth you list for both Mercy > Prence and > John Freeman. For Mercy I have bef 28 Sept 1631 and you give a date 8 > years > later. Where did you get that year? For John I have about 1622, you > gave > 1625. Where did you get that year? > > You didn't list a wife for their son John Freeman and the year of > death is > not what I have found. You say John Freeman died 1665. I have 27 > July 1721. > Could this 1665 date be for some other child? His wife's name - and > he had > two, but the one you need is Sarah Merrick. > > > Lydia > Barlow and followed on to myself.> Yeap. That's the way it usually > works! > > Christie Trapp > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta.

What is the source for the last name of Elizabeth Noyes? I have only TAG 17 (July 1940) which is quite old. At that time her last name was unknown. thanks, Randy At 08:15 AM 12/1/2006, you wrote: >I also have Freeman ancestry. Here's what I have. > > John Freeman, b. 1536 Suxxex, England > Edmund Freeman, b. 1566 Pulborough, Sessex County, England (immigrated to Massachusetts Bay Colony in 1635; settled in Sudbury in 1639. Married Alice Cole.) > John Freeman, b. circa 1600 England, died 1648 Sudbury MA, m. Elizabeth Noyes.

John (3) was born SEPT. 1651, marr.Sarah Myrick 12/18/1672 and 2nd. Mercy Watson of Plymouth. She died 9/27/1721--age 57. Son John(4) was born July 1678, so John (3) was 26 when his son was born..a reasonable age. >From: "Norman V. James" <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: [MFLR] Mayflower Ancestors >Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 07:43:25 -0500 > >Christie, >Another date that bothers me is the birth date I was given for John >Freeman.If he was born 2-3-1665;He had to have his son John when he was >13.Son was born 7-1678.Cant be right. >Norm >----- Original Message ----- >From: <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 3:11 PM >Subject: Re: [MFLR] Mayflower Ancestors > > > > > > In a message dated 11/30/2006 7:47:04 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, > > [email protected] writes: > > > > 15-Me 1937- > > Wife-Ernestine 1939 > > 5 children & 13 grandchildren. > > 12-Jonathan A James > > > > > > > > Who is 12 - Jonathan A. James? Is he really generation 13? > > > > Who is the ME in generation 12? Are you Norman V. -- being a Junior? > > > > Mercy Prence 1639-1711 MF#27345 > > John Freeman 1625-1719 > > John Freeman 1665 MF#13260 > > John Freeman 1678-1767 MF#13261 > > Mercy Watson 1683-1745 > > > > > > I'm a bit confused by the dates of birth you list for both Mercy > > Prence and > > John Freeman. For Mercy I have bef 28 Sept 1631 and you give a date 8 > > years > > later. Where did you get that year? For John I have about 1622, you > > gave > > 1625. Where did you get that year? > > > > You didn't list a wife for their son John Freeman and the year of > > death is > > not what I have found. You say John Freeman died 1665. I have 27 > > July 1721. > > Could this 1665 date be for some other child? His wife's name - and > > he had > > two, but the one you need is Sarah Merrick. > > > > <It was really strange that all lines descended to Nicholas King & > > Lydia > > Barlow and followed on to myself.> Yeap. That's the way it usually > > works! > > > > Christie Trapp > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Get free, personalized commercial-free online radio with MSN Radio powered by Pandora http://radio.msn.com/?icid=T002MSN03A07001

Arthur, Maybe I am reading your post wrong but it seems you are saying John 3 married both Sarah M and Mercy W. Norm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arthur Small" <[email protected]> To: <may[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2006 11:36 PM Subject: Re: [MFLR] Mayflower Ancestors > John (3) was born SEPT. 1651, marr.Sarah Myrick 12/18/1672 and 2nd. > Mercy > Watson of Plymouth. She died 9/27/1721--age 57. Son John(4) was born > July > 1678, so John (3) was 26 when his son was born..a reasonable age. > > >>From: "Norman V. James" <[email protected]> >>Reply-To: [email protected] >>To: <[email protected]> >>Subject: Re: [MFLR] Mayflower Ancestors >>Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 07:43:25 -0500 >> >>Christie, >>Another date that bothers me is the birth date I was given for John >>Freeman.If he was born 2-3-1665;He had to have his son John when he >>was >>13.Son was born 7-1678.Cant be right. >>Norm >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: <[email protected]> >>To: <[email protected]> >>Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 3:11 PM >>Subject: Re: [MFLR] Mayflower Ancestors >> >> >> > >> > In a message dated 11/30/2006 7:47:04 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, >> > [email protected] writes: >> > >> > 15-Me 1937- >> > Wife-Ernestine 1939 >> > 5 children & 13 grandchildren. >> > 12-Jonathan A James >> > >> > >> > >> > Who is 12 - Jonathan A. James? Is he really generation 13? >> > >> > Who is the ME in generation 12? Are you Norman V. -- being a >> > Junior? >> > >> > Mercy Prence 1639-1711 MF#27345 >> > John Freeman 1625-1719 >> > John Freeman 1665 MF#13260 >> > John Freeman 1678-1767 MF#13261 >> > Mercy Watson 1683-1745 >> > >> > >> > I'm a bit confused by the dates of birth you list for both Mercy >> > Prence and >> > John Freeman. For Mercy I have bef 28 Sept 1631 and you give a >> > date 8 >> > years >> > later. Where did you get that year? For John I have about 1622, >> > you >> > gave >> > 1625. Where did you get that year? >> > >> > You didn't list a wife for their son John Freeman and the year of >> > death is >> > not what I have found. You say John Freeman died 1665. I have 27 >> > July 1721. >> > Could this 1665 date be for some other child? His wife's name - >> > and >> > he had >> > two, but the one you need is Sarah Merrick. >> > >> > <It was really strange that all lines descended to Nicholas King & >> > Lydia >> > Barlow and followed on to myself.> Yeap. That's the way it >> > usually >> > works! >> > >> > Christie Trapp >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> > the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> >> >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get free, personalized commercial-free online radio with MSN Radio > powered > by Pandora http://radio.msn.com/?icid=T002MSN03A07001 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe [email protected] from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >