This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Chipman Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/FO.2ADI/353.2.1 Message Board Post: I want to share two emails I received in February of 1996 from a descendant of James and Charlotte (Crockett) (Hutchinson) Chipman, to which I will append transcriptions of the 1820 and 1830 census returns mentioned in my previous post. I am not going to name the correspondent; from the text it's apparent they are interested in the truth, and embarrassment is not my purpose. Herewith: “Mon. 19 Feb 1996 Hello Jeffrey: I am responding to a couple of your messages you posted over the last week or so on the Gennam Mailing List. My name is (--) and I believe we may share some of the same ancestors. There is reason to believe that the James Chipman you wanted information on is my ggg grandfather. My gg grandparents were George & Elizabeth MASON who were both from KY, but moved to Ray Cnty. MO around 1840 and died there; he, in 1862; she, in 1878. They had 4 children, one of whom, James Chipman MASON, was my ggrandfather. I have a probable marriage record for them: 15 Jul 1839 in Fayette Cnty, KY. The records shows a “Geo. A. MASON” marrying an “Eliza” CHIPMAN. About the James CHIPMAN you mention. I can’t really confirm or correct your information. I have IGI records (along with photocopies of the original submissions), showing Stephen as James’s father, but both Stephen and John CHIPMAN as sons of Perez CHIPMAN and Margaret WHEELER. Once I’ve gone further back than James CHIPMAN’s family, I am not sure totally of the reliability of what I’ve found. You seem to have more than I have and it would be interesting to hear from you about it. “Eliza” Chipman seems to tie into a family (from the IGI parent index) I have listed of James CHIPMAN and Caroline CROCKETT, but instead of Caroline, one source gives me the name Lotte. If her name was Charlotte that would make sense. “Eliza” seems consistent with Elizabeth CHIPMAN, James’s youngest daughter. The photocopies of the IGI submission indicated that Elizabeth married George A. MASON. Sorry I don’t have more on the earlier CHIPMANs, but hope this helps. I am focused right now on 19th century MASONs. My big problem with George A. MASON is his KY origin. Besides the marriage record all I know is that he was born there. If you have info concerning his parents and/or his birthplace and date, I would appreciate your sharing it since I’m pretty much a blank here (I estimate his birth date from 1813 to 1819). Let me know if you think I have anything that can help. Let’s keep in touch since it seems we’re working on some of the same families. (--) [END of message text]” “Sun. 25 Feb 1996 Hi Jeff— I was glad to get your response. You seem to have dug out alot on the Chipman relations. On the basis of what you’ve given me, I’ve been able to correct my own records. The info I had, while useful as a start, simply did not seem to completely fit. John rather than Stephen Chipman as James’s father makes sense. Thanks for the help. We I need help I’ll get back to you & let me know if you think I’ve got anything that will help you. (--)” Two U.S. Census listings for James Chipman in Scott Co., KY: 1820, pg. 96A Two males 0-10, seven males 10-16, one male 26-45, three females 0-10, two females 10-16, one female 16-26, one female 26-45 1830, pg. 166 One male 0-5, two males 10-15, one male 40-50, one female 5-10, two females 15-20, one female 40-50 The oldest male in the 1820 return is 26-45, or born from 1775-1794; the oldest male in the 1830 return is 40-50, or born from 1780-1790. These returns are for the same person. The reason the age ranges in these census returns are different is because the Federal government changed the way it recorded families in 1830.