I was just reviewing the Sampson Web site and noticed that they do not show John Bonney, b. 25 Feb 1663/64 in Duxbury, d. 16 Nov 1745 in Pembroke as being a son of Thomas Bonney, Jr. & Dorcas SAMPSON, dau. of Henry SAMPSON of the "Mayflower". If John Bonney was not their son, who were his parents? Thanks, Len Keane **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014)

At 06:03 PM 9/14/2008, Len Keane wrote: >I was just reviewing the Sampson Web site and noticed that they do not show >John Bonney, b. 25 Feb 1663/64 in Duxbury, d. 16 Nov 1745 >in Pembroke as being >a son of Thomas Bonney, Jr. & Dorcas SAMPSON, dau. of Henry SAMPSON of the >"Mayflower". > >If John Bonney was not their son, who were his parents? John's birth date is not known. The year of his birth is estimated as 1664 in Robert Charles Anderson, George F. Sanborn, Jr. and Melinde Lutz Sanborn, "The Great Migration: Immigrants To New England 1634-1635, Vol. I, A-B" (Boston: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1999). It is likely that he was born in Duxbury. John was not the son of Dorcas (Sampson) Bonney - he was her brother-in-law, younger brother to Thomas, and son of immigrant Thomas Bonney and wife Mary (___). Dale H. Cook, Member, NEHGS and MA Society of Mayflower Descendants; Plymouth Co. MA Coordinator for the USGenWeb Project Administrator of http://plymouthcolony.net ____________________________________________________________ Physical Therapy Certification Training - Save online. Click now. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3oLu87a000UkBJEspFTxp1j0k6nm3dyjBKpYMp1F2SFAIgGp/

Dale H. Cook, I am glad that you jumped in here, because I am still confused about the Bonney family. I do not even have Dorcas (Sampson) Bonney on my tree, but I have wondered where she fits with my Bonney family. You responded to Len Keane just now with this: > John was not the son of Dorcas (Sampson) Bonney - he was her > brother-in-law, younger brother to Thomas, and son of immigrant > Thomas Bonney and wife Mary (___). I have this (below) on my family tree, and I had to put my sources in the notes, because at the time, I did not know how to enter them, correctly, but I see that I have different dates for this John Bonny. and I have both sons, Thomas and John, as the sons of Thomas' wife Mary Hunt, when I guess they must be the sons of Mary Terry. The marriage date I have for Thomas Bonney and Mary Hunt appears to be 1650, but the two sons, Thomas and John, were born in 1640 and 1642. Of course, Abigail Parris, daughter of Samuel Parris and Ruth Bonney, married Job Simmons, Jr, which is an important line in my family tree. It looks like I have some work to do to figure out where I got the names of Thomas Bonney's two wives and which one he married first! Descendants of Thomas Bonney Generation No. 1 1. THOMAS1 BONNEY was born Abt. 1604 in Clerkenwell, Middlesex Co., England, and died 1693 in Duxbury, Plymouth County, Massachusets. He married (1) MARY TERRY Abt. 1635. He married (2) MARY HUNT Abt. 1650. She was born 1604. Children of THOMAS BONNEY and MARY HUNT are: i. THOMAS2 BONNEY, b. 1640. 2. ii. JOHN BONNEY, b. 1642. Generation No. 2 2. JOHN2 BONNEY (THOMAS1) was born 1642. He married ELIZABETH BISHOP, daughter of JAMES BISHOP and MARY HUDSON. Child of JOHN BONNEY and ELIZABETH BISHOP is: 3. i. RUTH3 BONNEY, b. 07 February 1699/00, Pembroke, Plymouth County, Massachusetts. Generation No. 3 3. RUTH3 BONNEY (JOHN2, THOMAS1) (Source: Dodd, Jordan, Liahona Research, comp., Massachusetts Marriages, 1633-1850, Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2005, Online publication - Dodd, Jordan, Liahona Research, comp.. Massachusetts Marriages, 1633-1850 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2005.Original data - With some noted exceptions all marriage records in this collection can be found at the Family History Library in Salt Lake City, Utah, and may be available through Family History Centers throughout the United States. See table below for information listed.) was born 07 February 1699/00 in Pembroke, Plymouth County, Massachusetts (Source: Birth Record of Ruth Bonney, Name: Bonney, Ruth; Father: Bonney , John; Mother: Bishop , Elizabeth; Birth Date: 7 February 1699; City: Pembroke; State: MA; Country: USA Name: Bonney, Ruth; Father: Bonney , John; Mother: Bishop , Elizabeth; Birth Date: 7 February 1700; City: Pembroke; State: MA; Country: USA Edmund West, comp. Family Data Collection - Individual Records. [database online] Provo, UT: Ancestry.com, 2000.). She married SAMUEL PARRIS 21 January 1724/25 in Pembroke, Plymouth County, Massachusetts (Source: Multiple Marriage Record Listings of Ruth Bonney and Samuel Parris, Early Massachusetts Marriages Prior to 1800 Plymouth County Pembroke page 58 Samuel Parris & Ruth Bonney, Jan. 21, 1725 Early Massachusetts Marriages Prior to 1800 Middlesex, Hamshire, Bershire and Bristol Plymouth County Marriages 1692-1746 Bristol County [112] Mariages in the Town of Pembrooke >From 1724. To 1738. page 21 Samuel Parris and Ruth Bonney Janry 21, 1725. The Genealogical Advertiser A Quarterly Magazine of Family History, Vol I-IV Vol. I. December, 1898. No. 4. Plymouth County Marriages. Continued fom page 40. From Volume One of the Court of General Sessions of the Peace. Samuel Parris and Ruth Bonney 21 Jan 1725 . Ancestry.com. Genealogical Advertise: A quarterly Magazine of Family History, Vol. 1-4 [database online]. Provo, UT: MyFamily.com, Inc., 2002. Original data: Greenlaw, Lucy Hall. Genealogical Advertiser: A quarterly Magazine of Family History, Vol. I-4. Cambridge MA, 1898-1901. .), son of THOMAS PARRIS and ABIGAIL UNKNOWN. He was born Abt. 1697. Child of RUTH BONNEY and SAMUEL PARRIS is: i. ABIGAIL4 PARRIS (Source: (1) Dodd, Jordan, Liahona Research, comp., Massachusetts Marriages, 1633-1850, Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2005., (2) Alice (Frazier) Walker of Kansas.), b. 30 November 1725, Pembroke, Plymouth County, Massachusetts (Source: Birth Record of Abigail Parris, Name: Abigail Parris; Spouse: Job Simmons; Parents: Samuel Parris, Ruth Bonney; Birth Place: Pembroke, MA; Birth Date: 30 November 1725; Marriage Place: Pembroke, MA; Marriage Date: 20 October 1742 Edmund West, comp. Family Data Collection - Individual Records. [database online] Provo, UT: Ancestry.com, 2000.); m. JOB SIMMONS, JR. (Source: (1) Dodd, Jordan, Liahona Research, comp., Massachusetts Marriages, 1633-1850, Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2005., (2) Edmund West, comp., Family Data Collection - Individual Records, Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2000, Edmund West, comp. Family Data Collection - Individual Records. [database online] Provo, UT: Ancestry.com, 2000., (3) Alice (Frazier) Walker of Kansas., (4) Great Migration Begins: Immigrants to New England, 1620-33.), 20 October 1742, Pembroke, Plymouth, Massachusetts (Source: Dodd, Jordan, Liahona Research, comp., Massachusetts Marriages, 1633-1850, Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2005.). Lois Kortering ------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dale H. Cook" <radiotest@cox.net> To: <mayflower@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2008 6:57 PM Subject: Re: [MFLR] JOHN Bonney - Was he son of Thomas Bonney, Jr. & Dorcas SAMPSON? > At 06:03 PM 9/14/2008, Len Keane wrote: > >>I was just reviewing the Sampson Web site and noticed that they do not >>show >>John Bonney, b. 25 Feb 1663/64 in Duxbury, d. 16 Nov 1745 >>in Pembroke as being >>a son of Thomas Bonney, Jr. & Dorcas SAMPSON, dau. of Henry SAMPSON of >>the >>"Mayflower". >> >>If John Bonney was not their son, who were his parents? > ------------------- > John's birth date is not known. The year of his birth is estimated as > 1664 in Robert Charles Anderson, George F. Sanborn, Jr. and Melinde > Lutz Sanborn, "The Great Migration: Immigrants To New England > 1634-1635, Vol. I, A-B" (Boston: New England Historic Genealogical > Society, 1999). It is likely that he was born in Duxbury. > > John was not the son of Dorcas (Sampson) Bonney - he was her > brother-in-law, younger brother to Thomas, and son of immigrant > Thomas Bonney and wife Mary (___). > > Dale H. Cook, Member, NEHGS and MA Society of Mayflower Descendants; > Plymouth Co. MA Coordinator for the USGenWeb Project > Administrator of http://plymouthcolony.net >

The Abraham Sampson Descendants database is just that: descendants of Abraham Sampson, not the descendants of Pilgrim Henry Samson, the assumed 1st cousin of Henry. Henry's descendants are shown only if they share descent from Abraham. Also this is a "work in progress" and perhaps eventually there will be a line back to John Bonney and his parents Thomas and Dorcas like the one for the descendants of John's his sister Mercy who married Nathaniel Delano. For Henry's descendants, you should see the three volumes (Vol. 20 Parts 1-3) about his descendants published by GSMD. The fact that Abraham did not come on the "Mayflower," and thus will not have a GSMD volume, is why this database is being compiled. Of course Abraham Sampson and Henry were once believed to have been brothers but long ago this was disproved. Nevertheless, Abraham did not come on the "Mayflower." Yes, the Pilgrim Henry Samson Kindred does accept descendants of Henry's assumed 1st cousin for membership. Stacy B. C. Wood, Jr. Complier Abraham Sampson Descendants Report -----Original Message----- From: mayflower-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mayflower-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of T0Leo@aol.com Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2008 6:04 PM To: mayflower@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MFLR] JOHN Bonney - Was he son of Thomas Bonney,Jr. & Dorcas SAMPSON? I was just reviewing the Sampson Web site and noticed that they do not show John Bonney, b. 25 Feb 1663/64 in Duxbury, d. 16 Nov 1745 in Pembroke as being a son of Thomas Bonney, Jr. & Dorcas SAMPSON, dau. of Henry SAMPSON of the "Mayflower". If John Bonney was not their son, who were his parents? Thanks, Len Keane **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014) Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ page for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message