Hi Ernie, When are you going to be in Flint? My sister and I are going to try for a trip up to see Dad in Ubly sometime in July or early August. Tyre is a VERY SMALL community south and east of Bad Axe (about 15 miles or so). Flint is about 90 miles south and a bit west. As far as I'm aware none of the Hall's served and I don't believe Alexander Soule did either. There was a big thing in that part of Michigan where the menfolk would go across to Canada to avoid serving - at least that's the folklore that gets told up there. The women kept the farms while the men went to Canada. I've found no Civil War records for any of these folks (on my Mom's side yes, but not Dad's) Lucy was the daughter of Alexander who was the son of SW, so unless I went up the Blake line (Lucy's mother) I don't see another path - and have frankly never tried that path. Will the Society accept death certificates and census records if that's all that's available? I haven't run across any wills yet either. Although my grandfather left the farm to my dad and I know that my great-grandfather split the farm between 2 of his sons (my grandfather and one of his brothers). So that paperwork should be around somewhere. Lucy Soule also had some land - according to the plat maps. The Soules were members of the local Presbyterian church - and they do not allow access to their records (at least, they haven't the last several times I've been up there - usually once a summer). The clerk's office in Bad Axe is only open to researchers on Wednesday - from 9 - 11 and from 1- 3. And you have to call to make an appointment (in case you need some time there). I only found that out last summer and wasn't going to be there for another Wednesday. I have exhausted the Sanilac Co records (much more available). Bad Axe is the seat for Huron County. The areas up there are also divided into townships and so the land records are available by township. Our farm straddles Austin and Minden townships. The genealogical library in Lansing is fabulous but I didn't know enough when I lived near there to pull copies of all the necessary documents when I had the chance. Polly P.S. On another note, I have copies of both Alexander and William Hall's naturalization paperwork (Alexander came from somewhere in No. Ireland, William was, I believe, born in Canada) - but neither document shows the towns where they were born. Nor do the death certificates. Can't find passage records for them either. Any suggestions? On Jun 6, 2008, at 12:29 PM, Ernest Everett Blevins wrote: > If SW Soule is a problem have you tried to shoot up the Lucille A. > Soule > line to see where she comes back in. I'd bet you have a battleship > curve in > your family tree. > > Have you tried the penson records of Alexander Soule? Sometimes the > various > documents in there will she light beyond the pensonier and sometimes > will > include a death certifiate for when they passed or if its a widow/'s > pension > -- presuming he served during the War Between the States. > > Where is Tyre, Michigan? We will be in Flint this summer for a few > days and > if close I could check for you. > > Ernie > > On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 2:14 PM, Polly Hall-Burley <phburley@mac.com> > wrote: > >> Hi Ernie, >> >> You and I have had several emails regarding my Soule line off list. >> But, for all and sundry to help with, my line is as follows: >> >> George Soule m. Mary Bucket >> John Soule m. Rebecca Simmons >> Aaron Soule m. Mary Wadsworth >> Aaron Soule m. Lydia Peterson >> John Soule m. Abigail White >> Samuel White Soule m. Elizabeth >> Alexander Soule m. Susan Blake >> William Alexander Hall m. Lucille A. Soule >> James Michael Hall m Helen Mary Wrubel (also sp Helena Mae Wrubel) >> Michael Garth Hall m. Anne Elizabeth Elderfield >> Polly Hall-Burley (me) >> >> I believe the line is okay via MFLR through John and Abigail. Samuel >> White Soule was born in MA and died, 1857 in Tyre, Michigan - this is >> where the branch gets tricky as the records for SW Soule, Alexander >> and >> Lucille are difficult to come by - the VRs aren't available and the >> churches involved either won't or can't give access. So all I have >> available are death records and census records. I'm plugging away >> and >> have just relocated (yet again), this time to Utah and we aren't quite >> settled yet (still in temporary housing) so all of my documentation is >> in storage. >> >> Any help for VRs for SW on through William A. Hall and Lucy would be >> greatly appreciated. >> >> Polly Hall-Burley >> >> On Jun 6, 2008, at 8:40 AM, Ernest Everett Blevins wrote: >> >>> What is your Soule line? We have a few lines of which only two are >>> documented from us (I went on one line and mom went in on another >>> intentionally so that there would be two lines instead of one >>> documented). >>> >>> Send it off list if you'd like. >>> >>> Ernie >>> >>> On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 7:33 AM, Polly Hall-Burley <phburley@mac.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Congratulations! I have just had my first bounce as no one has >>>> tried >>>> to prove my particular Soule line before. Now I'm running into the >>>> "missing vital records" issue (which I'd actually been running into >>>> before I submitted - I submitted in the hopes someone had proven the >>>> missing bits before me). So, as one just starting to one just >>>> finished >>>> - great job! >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> Polly Hall-Burley >>>> >>>> On Jun 5, 2008, at 9:32 PM, Janean Ray wrote: >>>> >>>>> Well folks I just received my confirmation email from my local >>>>> historian >>>>> that the Historian General in Plymouth has approved my membership >>>>> as >>>>> a >>>>> Descendant of Isaac Allerton and wife Fear Brewster. >>>>> >>>>> I can now state for certain...... my line is as follows: >>>>> >>>>> Isaac Allerton - Fear Brewster >>>>> Isaac Allerton - Elizabeth Willoughby >>>>> Frances Allerton - Samuel Travers >>>>> Elizabeth Travers - John Tarpley >>>>> Travers Tarpley - Elizabeth Sydnor >>>>> Frances Tarpley - Rawleigh Chinn >>>>> Elizabeth Chinn - John Wilson >>>>> Rawleigh Wilson - Callia Rice >>>>> John Harvey Wilson - Mary Jane Adams >>>>> Flora Wilson - Ottis Skiles >>>>> Sylvia Skiles - Golden Crosnoe (not married) >>>>> Bertram Skiles - Lorena Meadows >>>>> ME - Janean Ray >>>>> >>>>> Sure has been a long road. I have had my papers bounced around >>>>> through 5 >>>>> historians on this. Either passing away, unable to handle the job, >>>>> or >>>>> just >>>>> an interim historian. But anyway.... it's approved. >>>>> >>>>> Janean >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the >>>>> FAQ >>>>> page for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>>> the >>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ >>>> page >>>> for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>> the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Ernest Everett Blevins, MFA • Blevins Historical Research >>> 110 Evergreen Way • Villa Rica, Georgia 30180 >>> blevins@alumni.cofc.edu • 770-456-1876 >>> >>> Historic Preservation Consultant -- Historical and Architectural >>> Research -- >>> Genealogical (Family) Research -- Preservation Planning and >>> Documentation -- >>> House History >>> >>> Member: American Planning Association, New England Historic >>> Genealogical >>> Society, Sons of the American Revolution, Sons of Confederate >>> Veterans, Sons >>> of Union Veterans, and member of numerous other lineage and heritage >>> societies. >>> Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ >>> page for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ >> page >> for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > -- > Ernest Everett Blevins, MFA • Blevins Historical Research > 110 Evergreen Way • Villa Rica, Georgia 30180 > blevins@alumni.cofc.edu • 770-456-1876 > > Historic Preservation Consultant -- Historical and Architectural > Research -- > Genealogical (Family) Research -- Preservation Planning and > Documentation -- > House History > > Member: American Planning Association, New England Historic > Genealogical > Society, Sons of the American Revolution, Sons of Confederate > Veterans, Sons > of Union Veterans, and member of numerous other lineage and heritage > societies. > Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ > page for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In a few weeks we are planning to be there unless gas prices force us out of going or shortening the trip. This is one of those cases where freelancing historical and genealogical research gets tougher as its usually a cut back unless I'm getting some from section 106 work for Historic Preservation. I checked soliders and sailors list on the nps site and didn't have any luck for service. If you can pretty much show you can't get anything but census then I think they take it but keep track of your efforts so you can show where you've been and show that you've made the effort to find certificates. Land deeds and wills will show the splitting of the farm up which might also tell relations as well. I've been a few times ot the Lansing archives, its a great place for things. Actually, the Flint library is pretty decent too, I've had some success in it for things I couldnt find South for both my New England lines and my wifes northern lines. On your other note, I think the naturalization paper work is a great document to have and possilby could sub for birth certificates for dates and at least a broad place of birth. You may not always be able to find the exact town or even county they were born in anyway. Although check to see fi some of the cities there had city directories that would list the family I got alot of filler information off of Providence, RI city directories including some relationships based on where my great grandfather met my great grandmother as they lived on the same block. He was Irish immigrant and she was from the Eddy family dating back to colonial New England. Try alternate paths. Mom said before she passed that she was sure there was a Mayflower line off dad's Eddy line. I systematically started looking at the most likely branches and in fact found it on what I thought was the least likely branch but it went back not only to Richard Warren but also to Roger Williams though the Sayles. Made mom and dad something like 9th cousins which is suprising since he thought he had nothign back that far -- unfortunatly Mom never knew. Ernie On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 2:47 PM, Polly Hall-Burley <phburley@mac.com> wrote: > Hi Ernie, > > When are you going to be in Flint? My sister and I are going to try > for a trip up to see Dad in Ubly sometime in July or early August. > > Tyre is a VERY SMALL community south and east of Bad Axe (about 15 > miles or so). Flint is about 90 miles south and a bit west. > > As far as I'm aware none of the Hall's served and I don't believe > Alexander Soule did either. There was a big thing in that part of > Michigan where the menfolk would go across to Canada to avoid serving - > at least that's the folklore that gets told up there. The women kept > the farms while the men went to Canada. I've found no Civil War > records for any of these folks (on my Mom's side yes, but not Dad's) > > Lucy was the daughter of Alexander who was the son of SW, so unless I > went up the Blake line (Lucy's mother) I don't see another path - and > have frankly never tried that path. > > Will the Society accept death certificates and census records if that's > all that's available? I haven't run across any wills yet either. > Although my grandfather left the farm to my dad and I know that my > great-grandfather split the farm between 2 of his sons (my grandfather > and one of his brothers). So that paperwork should be around > somewhere. Lucy Soule also had some land - according to the plat maps. > > The Soules were members of the local Presbyterian church - and they do > not allow access to their records (at least, they haven't the last > several times I've been up there - usually once a summer). The clerk's > office in Bad Axe is only open to researchers on Wednesday - from 9 - > 11 and from 1- 3. And you have to call to make an appointment (in case > you need some time there). I only found that out last summer and > wasn't going to be there for another Wednesday. I have exhausted the > Sanilac Co records (much more available). Bad Axe is the seat for > Huron County. The areas up there are also divided into townships and > so the land records are available by township. Our farm straddles > Austin and Minden townships. > > The genealogical library in Lansing is fabulous but I didn't know > enough when I lived near there to pull copies of all the necessary > documents when I had the chance. > > Polly > > P.S. On another note, I have copies of both Alexander and William > Hall's naturalization paperwork (Alexander came from somewhere in No. > Ireland, William was, I believe, born in Canada) - but neither document > shows the towns where they were born. Nor do the death certificates. > Can't find passage records for them either. Any suggestions? > > > On Jun 6, 2008, at 12:29 PM, Ernest Everett Blevins wrote: > > > If SW Soule is a problem have you tried to shoot up the Lucille A. > > Soule > > line to see where she comes back in. I'd bet you have a battleship > > curve in > > your family tree. > > > > Have you tried the penson records of Alexander Soule? Sometimes the > > various > > documents in there will she light beyond the pensonier and sometimes > > will > > include a death certifiate for when they passed or if its a widow/'s > > pension > > -- presuming he served during the War Between the States. > > > > Where is Tyre, Michigan? We will be in Flint this summer for a few > > days and > > if close I could check for you. > > > > Ernie > > > > On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 2:14 PM, Polly Hall-Burley <phburley@mac.com> > > wrote: > > > >> Hi Ernie, > >> > >> You and I have had several emails regarding my Soule line off list. > >> But, for all and sundry to help with, my line is as follows: > >> > >> George Soule m. Mary Bucket > >> John Soule m. Rebecca Simmons > >> Aaron Soule m. Mary Wadsworth > >> Aaron Soule m. Lydia Peterson > >> John Soule m. Abigail White > >> Samuel White Soule m. Elizabeth > >> Alexander Soule m. Susan Blake > >> William Alexander Hall m. Lucille A. Soule > >> James Michael Hall m Helen Mary Wrubel (also sp Helena Mae Wrubel) > >> Michael Garth Hall m. Anne Elizabeth Elderfield > >> Polly Hall-Burley (me) > >> > >> I believe the line is okay via MFLR through John and Abigail. Samuel > >> White Soule was born in MA and died, 1857 in Tyre, Michigan - this is > >> where the branch gets tricky as the records for SW Soule, Alexander > >> and > >> Lucille are difficult to come by - the VRs aren't available and the > >> churches involved either won't or can't give access. So all I have > >> available are death records and census records. I'm plugging away > >> and > >> have just relocated (yet again), this time to Utah and we aren't quite > >> settled yet (still in temporary housing) so all of my documentation is > >> in storage. > >> > >> Any help for VRs for SW on through William A. Hall and Lucy would be > >> greatly appreciated. > >> > >> Polly Hall-Burley > >> > >> On Jun 6, 2008, at 8:40 AM, Ernest Everett Blevins wrote: > >> > >>> What is your Soule line? We have a few lines of which only two are > >>> documented from us (I went on one line and mom went in on another > >>> intentionally so that there would be two lines instead of one > >>> documented). > >>> > >>> Send it off list if you'd like. > >>> > >>> Ernie > >>> > >>> On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 7:33 AM, Polly Hall-Burley <phburley@mac.com> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Congratulations! I have just had my first bounce as no one has > >>>> tried > >>>> to prove my particular Soule line before. Now I'm running into the > >>>> "missing vital records" issue (which I'd actually been running into > >>>> before I submitted - I submitted in the hopes someone had proven the > >>>> missing bits before me). So, as one just starting to one just > >>>> finished > >>>> - great job! > >>>> > >>>> Regards, > >>>> > >>>> Polly Hall-Burley > >>>> > >>>> On Jun 5, 2008, at 9:32 PM, Janean Ray wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Well folks I just received my confirmation email from my local > >>>>> historian > >>>>> that the Historian General in Plymouth has approved my membership > >>>>> as > >>>>> a > >>>>> Descendant of Isaac Allerton and wife Fear Brewster. > >>>>> > >>>>> I can now state for certain...... my line is as follows: > >>>>> > >>>>> Isaac Allerton - Fear Brewster > >>>>> Isaac Allerton - Elizabeth Willoughby > >>>>> Frances Allerton - Samuel Travers > >>>>> Elizabeth Travers - John Tarpley > >>>>> Travers Tarpley - Elizabeth Sydnor > >>>>> Frances Tarpley - Rawleigh Chinn > >>>>> Elizabeth Chinn - John Wilson > >>>>> Rawleigh Wilson - Callia Rice > >>>>> John Harvey Wilson - Mary Jane Adams > >>>>> Flora Wilson - Ottis Skiles > >>>>> Sylvia Skiles - Golden Crosnoe (not married) > >>>>> Bertram Skiles - Lorena Meadows > >>>>> ME - Janean Ray > >>>>> > >>>>> Sure has been a long road. I have had my papers bounced around > >>>>> through 5 > >>>>> historians on this. Either passing away, unable to handle the job, > >>>>> or > >>>>> just > >>>>> an interim historian. But anyway.... it's approved. > >>>>> > >>>>> Janean > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the > >>>>> FAQ > >>>>> page for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm > >>>>> ------------------------------- > >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >>>>> MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > >>>>> the > >>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >>>> > >>>> Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ > >>>> page > >>>> for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm > >>>> ------------------------------- > >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >>>> MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > >>>> the > >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Ernest Everett Blevins, MFA • Blevins Historical Research > >>> 110 Evergreen Way • Villa Rica, Georgia 30180 > >>> blevins@alumni.cofc.edu • 770-456-1876 > >>> > >>> Historic Preservation Consultant -- Historical and Architectural > >>> Research -- > >>> Genealogical (Family) Research -- Preservation Planning and > >>> Documentation -- > >>> House History > >>> > >>> Member: American Planning Association, New England Historic > >>> Genealogical > >>> Society, Sons of the American Revolution, Sons of Confederate > >>> Veterans, Sons > >>> of Union Veterans, and member of numerous other lineage and heritage > >>> societies. > >>> Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ > >>> page for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm > >>> ------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >>> MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > >>> the > >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > >> > >> Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ > >> page > >> for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Ernest Everett Blevins, MFA • Blevins Historical Research > > 110 Evergreen Way • Villa Rica, Georgia 30180 > > blevins@alumni.cofc.edu • 770-456-1876 > > > > Historic Preservation Consultant -- Historical and Architectural > > Research -- > > Genealogical (Family) Research -- Preservation Planning and > > Documentation -- > > House History > > > > Member: American Planning Association, New England Historic > > Genealogical > > Society, Sons of the American Revolution, Sons of Confederate > > Veterans, Sons > > of Union Veterans, and member of numerous other lineage and heritage > > societies. > > Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ > > page for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ page > for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Ernest Everett Blevins, MFA • Blevins Historical Research 110 Evergreen Way • Villa Rica, Georgia 30180 blevins@alumni.cofc.edu • 770-456-1876 Historic Preservation Consultant -- Historical and Architectural Research -- Genealogical (Family) Research -- Preservation Planning and Documentation -- House History Member: American Planning Association, New England Historic Genealogical Society, Sons of the American Revolution, Sons of Confederate Veterans, Sons of Union Veterans, and member of numerous other lineage and heritage societies.