I guess nothing's permanent! Tombstones get broken and/or disappear over years (not to mention that the writing on those really old ones tends to fade in weather and such), and fire is the constant enemy of ANY sort of record repository! Oh well...guess we just have to work with what we've got, hoping that there IS still SOME sort of "evidence" someplace! :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Smith" <smit8698@bellsouth.net> To: <mayflower@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 8:38 AM Subject: Re: [MFLR] Use of Tombstone Photos to Prove Ancestry? > Thanks for the offer, Ernie. I will definitely keep that in mind if I > need any more Kingsbury data. John Kingsbury turned out to be a John > Howland descendant as well. Both lines have been proven and accepted by > the GSMD. Just in case anyone else out there is researching these > lines, they are: > > Sarah Bemis' line: > > Richard Warren and Elizabeth Walker > Elizabeth Warren and Richard Church > Abigail Church and Samuel Thaxter > Sarah Thaxter and Peter Dunbar > John Dunbar and Abigail Tucker > Thomas Dunbar and Lucretia Smith > Nancy Dunbar and Amasa Bemis > Sarah Bemis and John Kingsbury > Clarinda Kingsbury and Charles Tidd > Anna Washburn Tidd and Mahlon Ballard > Helen Ballard and Clarence Huntley > (my grandparents) > > John Kingsbury's line: > > John Howland and Elizabeth Tilley > Hope Howland and John Chipman > Hope Chipman and John Huckins > Mary Huckins and Nathan Bassett > Mary Bassett and Benjamin Smith > Jedidah Smith and John Sumner > Jedidah Sumner and Samuel Kingsbury > Ebenezer Kingsbury and Sarah Whittemore > John Kingsbury and Sarah Bemis > > Also, I agree with you about stained glass windows. They are > beautiful and it is a lovely idea, but all it takes is one good rock > thrown by a vandal, and it is gone. It doesn't even take a hurricane. > Recently a church here burned and it was absolutely full of beautiful > stained glass windows; most of them were destroyed when they 'blew out' > during the fire. They're definitely not very reliable as a permanent > memorial, unfortunately. > > > > > > Ernest Everett Blevins wrote: >> Alice, here it is >> blevins@alumni.cofc.edu >> 110 Evergreen Way >> Villa Rica, Georgia 30180. >> >> As for stained glass at a church on the beach, Document it elsewhere if >> its >> a hurricane prone area. Photographs to some historical societies or >> libraries or in with genealogical proofs. I have an ancestor memorialized >> under a window in a church in Charleston where he preached for years. >> >> Linda, I found a pretty good genealogy on line of the Kingsburys and I >> have >> a printout here.I think it had some proofs listed in it as well. By >> fluke I >> found a Kingsbury genealogy in the Carrollton libray in Carroll County, >> Georgia where a branch of that family which would be possiby distant >> cousins >> to me settled. Let me know if you need a look up as I go near there >> reguarly. >> >> Ernie >> >> On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 4:39 PM, A.lice Williams <aliceholt6@comcast.net> >> wrote: >> >> >>> Do you have email address for Blevins? I have Soule ancestry I want to >>> check with him. Thanks Alice H. Williams >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Linda Smith" <smit8698@bellsouth.net> >>> To: <mayflower@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 1:47 PM >>> Subject: Re: [MFLR] Use of Tombstone Photos to Prove Ancestry? >>> >>> >>> > My 3great grandmother's tombstone reads: >>> >>>> Sarah Bemis >>>> wife of >>>> John Kingsbury >>>> born in Spencer, Mass >>>> March 24, 1803 >>>> DIED >>>> Dec 5, 1880 >>>> >>>> Thus I was able to match the birthdate on the gravestone to the VR of >>>> Spencer MA and determine that she was the daughter of Amasa Bemis and >>>> Nancy Dunbar. A little further research led to the discovery that >>>> Nancy >>>> Dunbar was a Richard Warren Descendant, which at the time was a total >>>> surprise to me. >>>> >>>> Just a suggestion: Don't forget to check and see if there are any >>>> cemetery records around, once you find the gravestone. Sarah was >>>> buried >>>> in Elmira NY at Woodlawn, and they have an OLD ledger with all the >>>> burials in it at a nearby library. That book has a listing next to the >>>> names for parents. Sure enough, hers were listed as Amasa and Nancy >>>> Bemis. >>>> >>>> Ernest Everett Blevins wrote: >>>> >>>>> Sometimes they are the only proof. I have used them for proofs in many >>>>> organizations but usually they are frosting on the cake and submitted >>>>> to >>>>> add >>>>> to the proof and have the information stored somewhere. I've also been >>>>> accused in documentation that I over document typically using multiple >>>>> sources for my proofs. >>>>> >>>>> Annie Grey Soule, my great grandmother, acutally has on her stone "9th >>>>> >>> in >>> >>>>> decent from pilgram George Soule." She is burried in C harleston, >>>>> South >>>>> Carolina. >>>>> Ernie >>>>> On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 4:17 PM, <Scrapcat2@aol.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Does the Mayflower Society Historians permit the use of tombstone >>>>>> >>> photos >>> >>>>>> to >>>>>> show birth/death dates of Mayflower descendants in the application >>>>>> >>> form? >>> >>>>>> Or >>>>>> are birth certificates the only acceptable form of "proof". >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you, >>>>>> Carol from Arizona >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for >>>>>> fuel-efficient used cars. 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