At 10:52 PM 10/3/2008, Jennifer Hoernig wrote: >Does anyone out there have ANY information regarding the true name >and spelling of Phebe Gross - daughter of Lydia (Hinckley) and Simon Gross. Jennifer - Welcome to the Mayflower list. Some of us here have extensive resources, and though we may not be familiar with your specific line we may be able to help if we know when and where to look. To get us started, when and where was Phoebe born, and when and where were her parents married? >I have seen it listed as Phebe Gross, Phoebe Gross ... As Linda pointed out, standardized spelling is relatively recent - the impetus was Noah Webster's speller, first published in 1783, and which became so popular that sixty years later it was selling over a million copies per year. The classic spelling of her given name is "Phoebe", but spelled with the o and e attached together as one letter, called an "oe dipthong." For examples of dipthongs and how they appear in print see: http://www.bible-researcher.com/characters.html Scroll down near the bottom of the page to see a number of seldom-seen alphabetic characters including dipthongs. Many writers, though, simplified the spelling to "Phoebe" without the dipthong, or to "Phebe." Dale H. Cook, Member, NEHGS and MA Society of Mayflower Descendants; Plymouth Co. MA Coordinator for the USGenWeb Project Administrator of http://plymouthcolony.net ____________________________________________________________ Click here to find the rental car that fits your needs. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3nMUoLLVKkxXPtwmA4woDksV5DcHbitjaDwRw9Fb6RNarNK1/
Dale, Thanks for the information on the spelling discrepincies - it definately makes it easier to understand why there are multiple spellings for her. I have her parents as Lydia (Hinckley) and Simon Gross married Sept 18, 1755 in Truro, Mass. Phebe was born Aug 8, 1762 possibly in North Hillsdale, Columbia, NY. I seem to be running into a brick wall when it comes to information on Phebe. I've read that she was a widow to a Mr Perkins, but can't seem to find anything to prove that. I have her married to William Lamont, Sr. 1779 or 1788 in North Hillsdale, Columbia, NY. I'm going back over my notes and trying to establish if Lydia & Simon Gross even had a daughter named Phebe and if so, if she even married a William Lamont. The 7th generation I seem to be stuck on. I can prove lineage from Stephen Hopkins to Lydia Hinckley & Simon Gross and I can prove lineage from myself to Benjamin Lamont (William Lamont's son) and Sally Howe. But it's that gray area in between that I can't seem to connect. My lineage to Stephen Hopkins is as follows: Stephen Hopkins Constance m: Nicholas Snow Mary m: Thomas Paine Thomas m: Hannah Shaw Lydia m: Josiah Hinckley Lydia m: Simon Gross Phebe m: William LaMont, Sr. Benjamin m: Sally Howe Albertus A. LaMont m: Sarah Chase Boyd H. LaMont m: Mary McDonald Pearl m: Herbert Cowles Mary m: Harley Albaugh Lina m: Francis Gaab Karon m: James Fetzer Jennifer (me) I have contacted people who have Phebe Gross on their tree, but no one seems to have documentation to support it. I'm trying to prove my lineage before my great-grandmother's 99th birthday in April. I would really like to give her a membership certificate for her birthday. Any information that you can help me out with would be wonderful. Regards, Jennifer Hoernig > Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 11:08:50 -0400> To: mayflower@rootsweb.com> From: radiotest@cox.net> Subject: Re: [MFLR] Phebe Gross> > At 10:52 PM 10/3/2008, Jennifer Hoernig wrote:> > >Does anyone out there have ANY information regarding the true name > >and spelling of Phebe Gross - daughter of Lydia (Hinckley) and Simon Gross.> > Jennifer -> > Welcome to the Mayflower list. Some of us here have extensive > resources, and though we may not be familiar with your specific line > we may be able to help if we know when and where to look. To get us > started, when and where was Phoebe born, and when and where were her > parents married?> > >I have seen it listed as Phebe Gross, Phoebe Gross ...> > As Linda pointed out, standardized spelling is relatively recent - > the impetus was Noah Webster's speller, first published in 1783, and > which became so popular that sixty years later it was selling over a > million copies per year.> > The classic spelling of her given name is "Phoebe", but spelled with > the o and e attached together as one letter, called an "oe dipthong." > For examples of dipthongs and how they appear in print see:> > http://www.bible-researcher.com/characters.html> > Scroll down near the bottom of the page to see a number of > seldom-seen alphabetic characters including dipthongs.> > Many writers, though, simplified the spelling to "Phoebe" without the > dipthong, or to "Phebe."> > Dale H. Cook, Member, NEHGS and MA Society of Mayflower Descendants;> Plymouth Co. MA Coordinator for the USGenWeb Project> Administrator of http://plymouthcolony.net > > ____________________________________________________________> Click here to find the rental car that fits your needs.> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3nMUoLLVKkxXPtwmA4woDksV5DcHbitjaDwRw9Fb6RNarNK1/> Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ page for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm> -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Get more out of the Web. Learn 10 hidden secrets of Windows Live. http://windowslive.com/connect/post/jamiethomson.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!550F681DAD532637!5295.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_domore_092008