Hi Jennifer, I am not a descendant of Hopkins but I checked my Hopkins silver book, vol. 6. On page 169: Lydia Hinckley, b. 11 June 1726; PROBABLY married Simon Gross. (Lydia Hinckley is the daughter of Lydia Paine (Thomas, Mary Snow, Constance Hopkins, Stephen) and Josiah Hinckley. On page 168, same book, Phebe Knowles (daughter of Paul Knowles and Phebe Paine (sister of the above Lydia Paine) b 28 April 1725 married 1. Joseph Collins, 2. Simon Gross The Mayflower silver book lists both daughters as PHEBE. Also, since you are on a timetable to get the application approved for your great-grandmother's birthday, I suggest two tips: 1. Contact the state historian (of the state you will be submitting the application to) for help. http://www.themayflowersociety.com/contact.htm 2. Contact the Mayflower Library http://www.themayflowersociety.com/library.htm to see if there is a proven line from Phebe Gross. They can also help with research requests. Here is a statement from their web page: "We also accept lineage requests and other inquiries via email (gsmd.libr@verizon.net )." Sincerely, Grace Bliss Smith, Ph.D. Webmaster Secretary Michigan Society of Mayflower Descendants http://www.michmayflower.org/ Jennifer Hoernig wrote: > Hello All, Does anyone out there have ANY information regarding the true name and spelling of Phebe Gross - daughter of Lydia (Hinckley) and Simon Gross. I have seen it listed as Phebe Gross, Phoebe Gross, Phoebe Perkins, Phoebe Perkins Gross, Phoebe Gross Perkins, Phoebe Gorse, Phoebe Gorse Perkins, Phoebe Perkins Gorse, etc. She is a descendant of Stephen Hopkins through Constance, Mary Snow, Thomas Paine, Lydia Paine, Lydia Hinckley. I also want to make sure I have her b,m,d dates accurate. And if she did indeed marry William LaMont, Sr. I'm relatively new to genealogy, and applying for membership to the General Society of Mayflower Descendants. If anyone has any advice I would love to have it. Thank you so much for any help you can give me. Jennifer Hoernig - Marysville, WA

Truro, Barnstable, MA VR: Simon Gross m. Elizabeth Treat 24 July 1729 (is this the father or the same person?) Simon Gross m. Phebe Collings 14 Feb 1749 [must be the Phebe Knowles Grace listed] Samuel s/o Simon and Phebe b. 2 May 1751 Simon Gross and Lydia Hinckley m. 18 September 1755 Elizabeth Treat Gross d/o Simon and Lydia b. 5 Feb 1758 No record on my CD of the birth of a daughter Phebe (no matter how you spell it) Grace Smith wrote: > Hi Jennifer, > > I am not a descendant of Hopkins but I checked my Hopkins silver book, vol. > 6. > > On page 169: > > Lydia Hinckley, b. 11 June 1726; PROBABLY married Simon Gross. (Lydia > Hinckley is the daughter of Lydia Paine (Thomas, Mary Snow, Constance > Hopkins, Stephen) and Josiah Hinckley. > > > On page 168, same book, > > Phebe Knowles (daughter of Paul Knowles and Phebe Paine (sister of the above > Lydia Paine) b 28 April 1725 married 1. Joseph Collins, 2. Simon Gross > > > The Mayflower silver book lists both daughters as PHEBE. > > > Also, since you are on a timetable to get the application approved for your > great-grandmother's birthday, I suggest two tips: > > 1. Contact the state historian (of the state you will be submitting the > application to) for help. http://www.themayflowersociety.com/contact.htm > > 2. Contact the Mayflower Library > http://www.themayflowersociety.com/library.htm to see if there is a proven > line from Phebe Gross. They can also help with research requests. Here is > a statement from their web page: > > "We also accept lineage requests and other inquiries via email > (gsmd.libr@verizon.net )." > > > Sincerely, > > Grace Bliss Smith, Ph.D. > Webmaster Secretary > Michigan Society of Mayflower Descendants > http://www.michmayflower.org/ > > > Jennifer Hoernig wrote: > >> Hello All, Does anyone out there have ANY information regarding the true >> > name and spelling of Phebe Gross - daughter of Lydia (Hinckley) and Simon > Gross. I have seen it listed as Phebe Gross, Phoebe Gross, Phoebe Perkins, > Phoebe Perkins Gross, Phoebe Gross Perkins, Phoebe Gorse, Phoebe Gorse > Perkins, Phoebe Perkins Gorse, etc. She is a descendant of Stephen Hopkins > through Constance, Mary Snow, Thomas Paine, Lydia Paine, Lydia Hinckley. I > also want to make sure I have her b,m,d dates accurate. And if she did > indeed marry William LaMont, Sr. I'm relatively new to genealogy, and > applying for membership to the General Society of Mayflower Descendants. If > anyone has any advice I would love to have it. Thank you so much for any > help you can give me. Jennifer Hoernig - Marysville, WA > > > > > Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ page for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >