I have the following *Carl Burnham Gross*. He was b. 19 October 1903, Eastham MA, and d. 19 October 1991. If there is interest in his line I am able to contact his daughter (my cousin) who stoll lives on the cape... Jennifer Hoernig wrote: > Dale, > > Thanks for the information on the spelling discrepincies - it definately makes it easier to understand why there are multiple spellings for her. I have her parents as Lydia (Hinckley) and Simon Gross married Sept 18, 1755 in Truro, Mass. Phebe was born Aug 8, 1762 possibly in North Hillsdale, Columbia, NY. I seem to be running into a brick wall when it comes to information on Phebe. I've read that she was a widow to a Mr Perkins, but can't seem to find anything to prove that. I have her married to William Lamont, Sr. 1779 or 1788 in North Hillsdale, Columbia, NY. I'm going back over my notes and trying to establish if Lydia & Simon Gross even had a daughter named Phebe and if so, if she even married a William Lamont. The 7th generation I seem to be stuck on. I can prove lineage from Stephen Hopkins to Lydia Hinckley & Simon Gross and I can prove lineage from myself to Benjamin Lamont (William Lamont's son) and Sally Howe. But it's that gray area in between that I ca! > n't seem to connect. My lineage to Stephen Hopkins is as follows: > > > Stephen Hopkins > Constance m: Nicholas Snow > Mary m: Thomas Paine > Thomas m: Hannah Shaw > Lydia m: Josiah Hinckley > Lydia m: Simon Gross > Phebe m: William LaMont, Sr. > Benjamin m: Sally Howe > Albertus A. LaMont m: Sarah Chase > Boyd H. LaMont m: Mary McDonald > Pearl m: Herbert Cowles > Mary m: Harley Albaugh > Lina m: Francis Gaab > Karon m: James Fetzer > Jennifer (me) > I have contacted people who have Phebe Gross on their tree, but no one seems to have documentation to support it. > I'm trying to prove my lineage before my great-grandmother's 99th birthday in April. I would really like to give her a membership certificate for her birthday. > Any information that you can help me out with would be wonderful. > > Regards, > > Jennifer Hoernig > > Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 11:08:50 -0400> To: mayflower@rootsweb.com> From: radiotest@cox.net> Subject: Re: [MFLR] Phebe Gross> > At 10:52 PM 10/3/2008, Jennifer Hoernig wrote:> > >Does anyone out there have ANY information regarding the true name > >and spelling of Phebe Gross - daughter of Lydia (Hinckley) and Simon Gross.> > Jennifer -> > Welcome to the Mayflower list. Some of us here have extensive > resources, and though we may not be familiar with your specific line > we may be able to help if we know when and where to look. To get us > started, when and where was Phoebe born, and when and where were her > parents married?> > >I have seen it listed as Phebe Gross, Phoebe Gross ...> > As Linda pointed out, standardized spelling is relatively recent - > the impetus was Noah Webster's speller, first published in 1783, and > which became so popular that sixty years later it was selling over a > million copies per year.> > The classic spelling of her given name is "Phoebe", ! > but spelled with > the o and e attached together as one letter, called an "oe dipthong." > For examples of dipthongs and how they appear in print see:> > http://www.bible-researcher.com/characters.html> > Scroll down near the bottom of the page to see a number of > seldom-seen alphabetic characters including dipthongs.> > Many writers, though, simplified the spelling to "Phoebe" without the > dipthong, or to "Phebe."> > Dale H. Cook, Member, NEHGS and MA Society of Mayflower Descendants;> Plymouth Co. 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Yes, please do contact his daughter. Can you see if they have a Simon Gross in their line b. 25 April 1731 Truro, Barnstabel, MA. Thank you for your help. > Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 18:33:14 -0400> From: chuck.richardson@mindspring.com> To: mayflower@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [MFLR] Phebe Gross> > I have the following> *Carl Burnham Gross*. He was b. 19 October 1903, Eastham MA, and d. 19 > October 1991.> > If there is interest in his line I am able to contact his daughter (my > cousin) who stoll lives on the cape...> > Jennifer Hoernig wrote:> > Dale,> > > > Thanks for the information on the spelling discrepincies - it definately makes it easier to understand why there are multiple spellings for her. I have her parents as Lydia (Hinckley) and Simon Gross married Sept 18, 1755 in Truro, Mass. Phebe was born Aug 8, 1762 possibly in North Hillsdale, Columbia, NY. I seem to be running into a brick wall when it comes to information on Phebe. I've read that she was a widow to a Mr Perkins, but can't seem to find anything to prove that. I have her married to William Lamont, Sr. 1779 or 1788 in North Hillsdale, Columbia, NY. I'm going back over my notes and trying to establish if Lydia & Simon Gross even had a daughter named Phebe and if so, if she even married a William Lamont. The 7th generation I seem to be stuck on. I can prove lineage from Stephen Hopkins to Lydia Hinckley & Simon Gross and I can prove lineage from myself to Benjamin Lamont (William Lamont's son) and Sally Howe. But it's that gray area in between that I !> ca!> > n't seem to connect. My lineage to Stephen Hopkins is as follows:> > > >> > Stephen Hopkins> > Constance m: Nicholas Snow> > Mary m: Thomas Paine> > Thomas m: Hannah Shaw> > Lydia m: Josiah Hinckley> > Lydia m: Simon Gross> > Phebe m: William LaMont, Sr.> > Benjamin m: Sally Howe> > Albertus A. LaMont m: Sarah Chase> > Boyd H. LaMont m: Mary McDonald> > Pearl m: Herbert Cowles> > Mary m: Harley Albaugh> > Lina m: Francis Gaab> > Karon m: James Fetzer> > Jennifer (me)> > I have contacted people who have Phebe Gross on their tree, but no one seems to have documentation to support it.> > I'm trying to prove my lineage before my great-grandmother's 99th birthday in April. I would really like to give her a membership certificate for her birthday.> > Any information that you can help me out with would be wonderful.> > > > Regards,> > > > Jennifer Hoernig> > > Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 11:08:50 -0400> To: mayflower@rootsweb.com> From: radiotest@cox.net> Subject: Re: [MFLR] Phebe Gross> > At 10:52 PM 10/3/2008, Jennifer Hoernig wrote:> > >Does anyone out there have ANY information regarding the true name > >and spelling of Phebe Gross - daughter of Lydia (Hinckley) and Simon Gross.> > Jennifer -> > Welcome to the Mayflower list. Some of us here have extensive > resources, and though we may not be familiar with your specific line > we may be able to help if we know when and where to look. To get us > started, when and where was Phoebe born, and when and where were her > parents married?> > >I have seen it listed as Phebe Gross, Phoebe Gross ...> > As Linda pointed out, standardized spelling is relatively recent - > the impetus was Noah Webster's speller, first published in 1783, and > which became so popular that sixty years later it was selling over a > million copies per year.> > The classic spelling of her given name is "Phoebe"!> , !> > but spelled with > the o and e attached together as one letter, called an "oe dipthong." > For examples of dipthongs and how they appear in print see:> > http://www.bible-researcher.com/characters.html> > Scroll down near the bottom of the page to see a number of > seldom-seen alphabetic characters including dipthongs.> > Many writers, though, simplified the spelling to "Phoebe" without the > dipthong, or to "Phebe."> > Dale H. Cook, Member, NEHGS and MA Society of Mayflower Descendants;> Plymouth Co. MA Coordinator for the USGenWeb Project> Administrator of http://plymouthcolony.net > > ____________________________________________________________> Click here to find the rental car that fits your needs.> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3nMUoLLVKkxXPtwmA4woDksV5DcHbitjaDwRw9Fb6RNarNK1/> Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ page for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm> -------------------------------> To unsubs!> cr!> > ibe from the list, please send an email to MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.> > com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message> > _________________________________________________________________> > Get more out of the Web. 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