Hi Sherrye, In some cases, albeit rare, Y-DNA CAN identify a specific ancestor, as it does with Samuel Fuller's line. His line has a rare mutation, DYS 393=12 where his brother Edward, and his cousins, have a DYS 393=13. I do not know whether Dr. Samuel himself had this mutation, but can tell you with 100% certainty that his son, Samuel did because he passed it on to his sons. http://www.ourfamilyorigins.com/mayflowerfullersdnaproject.htm Kind regards, Katherine Hope Borges Fuller DNA Project Administrator > From: SherryeW@aol.com > Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:47:16 -0400 > To: mayflower@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [MFLR] DNA and Application Process > > I don't believe DNA can ever replace the paper lineage, mainly because (at > this point) it cannot prove you are descended from a specific individual. For > example male Howland descendants of John Howland would have the same or > similar DNA results as those of Arthur Howland because they are brothers. One is > a Mayflower line and one is not. I believe they are accepting (or soon will > be) DNA results in addition to paper lineages, to be used as confirmation the > paper lineage is genetically correct. > > Sherrye > > In a message dated 7/21/2008 3:01:42 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > mayflower-request@rootsweb.com writes: > > Dna is irrefutable evidence for establishing the male Y line carrier >

I think one thing to keep in mind is that the DNA isn't necessarily being used to connect necessarily to the Mayflower passenger but might be a weak link in the lineage that can be firmed up by a DNA to that generation where documentation is muddled or non existant. If its known only one member left Mass for say Kentucky and legend but no paperwrok say that the Kentucky settler came from Mass then it can be a tool to link the fmaily if a known paper line say exists in Massachusetts to compare with. Ernie On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 3:45 PM, Katherine Hope Borges <kvjjmmborges@msn.com> wrote: > > Hi Sherrye, > > In some cases, albeit rare, Y-DNA CAN identify a specific ancestor, as it > does with Samuel Fuller's line. His line has a rare mutation, DYS 393=12 > where his brother Edward, and his cousins, have a DYS 393=13. I do not know > whether Dr. Samuel himself had this mutation, but can tell you with 100% > certainty that his son, Samuel did > because he passed it on to his sons. > > http://www.ourfamilyorigins.com/mayflowerfullersdnaproject.htm > > Kind regards, > Katherine Hope Borges > Fuller DNA Project Administrator > > > From: SherryeW@aol.com > > Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:47:16 -0400 > > To: mayflower@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [MFLR] DNA and Application Process > > > > I don't believe DNA can ever replace the paper lineage, mainly because > (at > > this point) it cannot prove you are descended from a specific individual. > For > > example male Howland descendants of John Howland would have the same or > > similar DNA results as those of Arthur Howland because they are brothers. > One is > > a Mayflower line and one is not. I believe they are accepting (or soon > will > > be) DNA results in addition to paper lineages, to be used as > confirmation the > > paper lineage is genetically correct. > > > > Sherrye > > > > In a message dated 7/21/2008 3:01:42 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > > mayflower-request@rootsweb.com writes: > > > > Dna is irrefutable evidence for establishing the male Y line carrier > > > > Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ page > for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Ernest Everett Blevins, MFA • Blevins Historical Research 110 Evergreen Way • Villa Rica, Georgia 30180 blevins@alumni.cofc.edu • 770-456-1876 Historic Preservation Consultant -- Historical and Architectural Research -- Genealogical (Family) Research -- Preservation Planning and Documentation -- House History Member: American Planning Association, New England Historic Genealogical Society, Sons of the American Revolution, Sons of Confederate Veterans, Sons of Union Veterans, and member of numerous other lineage and heritage societies.