Hey, I'm a Rogers descendent in Michigan too. Still working to prove those middle generations although my great aunts were both admitted to the General Society of Mayflower Descendents based on this line back in the late 70s before the standards were tightened. They're both listed in the Mayflower Ancestral Index, plus I have all their paperwork, but it is not enough simply to re-submit under today's rules. My detailed line from Thomas Rogers down to me is: 1). Thomas Rogers, b. circa 1571, m. 24 October 1597 Alice (Elsgen) Cosford, b. 10 May 1573 2). Lieutenant Joseph Rogers, b. January 1602/03, m. before 1633, Hannah _____. 3). Hannah Rogers, b. 08 August 1652, m. after 16 July 1679 Jonathan Higgins, b July 1637 4). Mary Higgins, b. 22 January 1682/3, m. 12 February 1706/07 James Young, b. 04 April 1685 5). Lydia Young, b. 08 September 1718, m. 13 October 1737 John Rich, b. 14 September 1714 6). James Rich, b. 29 August 1741, m. _______ Phyllis Knowlton, b. _____ 7). Belden Rich, b. 13 February 1775, m. about 1800, Elizabeth (Betsey) Hewitt, b. 07 November 1785 8). Noah Rich, b. 15 September 1803, m. 03 October 1827, Jane Elizabeth Goodwin, b. ________. 9). Noah Rich, b. 20 April 1835, m. 26 February 1854, Mary Ann Huston, b. 16 November 1827 10). Edward Belden Rich, b. 20 March 1867, m. 12 May 1906, Blanche Norton Loase, b. 22 July 1878 11). Charles Loase Rich, b. 22 August 1910, m. 03 July 1933, Gertrude Eloise Veeder, b. 04 November 1910 12). Charles Edward Rich, b. 5 February 1934, m., 11 December 1953 Grace Virginia PRIVATE, b. 07 October 1935 13). Craig Robert Rich, b. 18 October 1954, m., 03 June 1975, Vickie Lynn Nyhof, b. 03 June 1956. I have the Thomas Rogers silver book and would be happy to do look-ups. Thanks! Craig R. Rich List Administrator Mayflower List ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- -----Original Message----- From: mayflower-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mayflower-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Teresa Andrews Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 7:59 PM To: mayflower@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MFLR] Thomas Rogers line I don't know if I have the information you need, but I am a lifetime Rogers Society member who also lives in Michigan. I am in Monroe County and would like to connect w/other descendants. Teresa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Hayes" <RichardAHayes@comcast.net> To: <mayflower@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 8:23 AM Subject: [MFLR] Thomas Rogers line > Hello All, > > I have John Rogers, son of Thomas Rogers and Anna Churchman, who married > Elizabeth Peabody, the daughter of William Peabody and Elizabeth Alden. > Elizabeth Alden is my 8th great-grandmother. > > I also have other Mayflower connections. Since I live in Michigan I would > contact the representative from Michigan. Is there anyone else connected > to > this line who goud give me some information? > > Richard > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---- > > > Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ page > for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.17 - Release Date: 1/30/2008 > 12:00 AM > > Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ page for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Why have you described it as historical fiction? GMF A Pearl is a Garment of Patience That Enclosed an Annoyance -- Linda Smith <smit8698@bellsouth.net> wrote: I like the book very much. It was quite entertaining. However, it is not entirely historically accurate and you should take the opinions of the author with a grain of salt. If you view it as a nice work of historical fiction and not the holy grail of accuracy, then you should be entertained. Linda in TN Stacy Wood wrote: > Which book? > > > > > GMF > A Pearl is a Garment of > Patience That Enclosed > an Annoyance > > _____________________________________________________________ > Looking for insurance? Click to compare and save big. > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2121/fc/Ioyw6i3m276RoAFKeGeORjYERVtpTDnn > vHqxVsEDlBgcrJ5MLOmu2h/ > > > > Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ page > for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ page for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ page for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _____________________________________________________________ Click for free information on obtaining a second mortgage. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2121/fc/Ioyw6i3m32gri77DWQ9Y1tRXiwxwm0grMFljwfRz4YDU653rqb1lRD/

I don't know if I have the information you need, but I am a lifetime Rogers Society member who also lives in Michigan. I am in Monroe County and would like to connect w/other descendants. Teresa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Hayes" <RichardAHayes@comcast.net> To: <mayflower@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 8:23 AM Subject: [MFLR] Thomas Rogers line > Hello All, > > I have John Rogers, son of Thomas Rogers and Anna Churchman, who married > Elizabeth Peabody, the daughter of William Peabody and Elizabeth Alden. > Elizabeth Alden is my 8th great-grandmother. > > I also have other Mayflower connections. Since I live in Michigan I would > contact the representative from Michigan. Is there anyone else connected > to > this line who goud give me some information? > > Richard > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---- > > > Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ page > for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.17 - Release Date: 1/30/2008 > 12:00 AM > >

The title of the book is -- Mayflower. GMF A Pearl is a Garment of Patience That Enclosed an Annoyance -- "Stacy Wood" <sbcwjr@comcast.net> wrote: Which book? -----Original Message----- From: mayflower-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mayflower-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of GMF Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 9:51 AM To: mayflower@rootsweb.com Subject: [MFLR] MAYFLOWER Any opinions on this book by Nathaniel Philbrick? Thanks. GMF A Pearl is a Garment of Patience That Enclosed an Annoyance _____________________________________________________________ Looking for insurance? Click to compare and save big. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2121/fc/Ioyw6i3m276RoAFKeGeORjYERVtpTDnn vHqxVsEDlBgcrJ5MLOmu2h/ Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ page for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ page for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _____________________________________________________________ Click to become a master chef, own a restaurant and make millions. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2121/fc/Ioyw6i3m4pCdqhFAFjBcm7V3VhpIbGc560W52MeUCQc9LvmkPT7O6B/

There was supposed to be a children's edition released last Spring of the 2006 "NY Times" best non-fiction book "Mayflower." Nathaniel Philbrick had previously published a youth version of his earlier NT Times best seller and award winning non-fiction "In the Heart of the Sea." In addition, there is another book by Philbrick published last year that should most certainly be of interest to this list. All folks interested in the ship "Mayflower," Pilgrims and Plymouth Colony should have on their shelf: "The Mayflower Papers - Selected Writings of Colonial New England," also published by the Penguin Group. Philbrick announced its imminent publication when he received the PA Mayflower Society's 9th annual "Katharine F. Little Distinguished Mayflower Scholarship Award" at its annual meeting in Jan 2007. Subsequently "Mayflower Papers" was reviewed in the SMDPA quarterly newsletter. "The Mayflower Papers" contains extracts from Bradford's "Of Plymouth Plantation," Bradford's and Winslow's "Mourt's Relation," Winslow's "Good News From New England," Thomas Morton's "New English Canaan" dealing with the Wessagussett Massacre and Ma-re Mount with its Maypole from Morton's perspective (therein Morton calls Capt. Myles Standish "Captain Shrimp"), Mary Rowlandson's "The Sovereignty and Goodness of God" (apparently the complete account of her 1676 horrifying experiences as a prisoner of the Native People during King Philip's War), and "Entertaining Passages Relating to Philip's War, 1716" by "Indian Fighter" Benjamin Church and Thomas Church. This latter work, also apparently the complete work, was heavily drawn upon by Philbrick in his "Mayflower" Part IV - "War" that dealt with the deadly King Philip's 1675-76 War that killed off eight (8!) percent of the Plymouth Colony male population (which Philbrick says is equal to twice the percentage of the American Civil War male deaths) and the death of 60 to 80 percent of the Native People. Even if you don't care for soft cover books, I wouldn't miss this one. The extracts might whet your appetite for the full versions of those extracts. Stacy Wood -----Original Message----- From: mayflower-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mayflower-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dale H. Cook Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 1:11 PM To: mayflower@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MFLR] MAYFLOWER At 12:40 PM 1/30/2008, Stacy Wood wrote: >Which book? AFAIK, Philbrick has written only one book that would be a subject of inquiry on this list - "Mayflower" (New York: Viking Penguin, 2006). Dale H. Cook, Member, NEHGS and MA Society of Mayflower Descendants; Plymouth Co. MA Coordinator for the USGenWeb Project http://members.cox.net/plymouthcolony/index.shtml Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ page for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Any opinions on this book by Nathaniel Philbrick? Thanks. GMF A Pearl is a Garment of Patience That Enclosed an Annoyance _____________________________________________________________ Looking for insurance? Click to compare and save big. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2121/fc/Ioyw6i3m276RoAFKeGeORjYERVtpTDnnvHqxVsEDlBgcrJ5MLOmu2h/

OK, I may have overstated it a bit. It is based on historical fact, but not every detail is verifiable in the records. I am in no way criticizing the book, as I said, I enjoyed it. I guess 'fiction' is not the right word .... > Why have you described it as historical fiction? > > > GMF > A Pearl is a Garment of > Patience That Enclosed > an Annoyance > > > -- Linda Smith <smit8698@bellsouth.net> wrote: > I like the book very much. It was quite entertaining. However, it is > not entirely historically accurate and you should take the opinions of > the author with a grain of salt. If you view it as a nice work of > historical fiction and not the holy grail of accuracy, then you should > be entertained. > > Linda in TN > > Stacy Wood wrote: > >> Which book? >> >> >> GMF >> A Pearl is a Garment of >> Patience That Enclosed >> an Annoyance >> >> _____________________________________________________________ >> Looking for insurance? Click to compare and save big. >> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2121/fc/Ioyw6i3m276RoAFKeGeORjYERVtpTDnn >> vHqxVsEDlBgcrJ5MLOmu2h/ >> >> >> >> Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ page >> for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ page for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> > Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ page for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > _____________________________________________________________ > Click for free information on obtaining a second mortgage. > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2121/fc/Ioyw6i3m32gri77DWQ9Y1tRXiwxwm0grMFljwfRz4YDU653rqb1lRD/ > Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ page for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

I like the book very much. It was quite entertaining. However, it is not entirely historically accurate and you should take the opinions of the author with a grain of salt. If you view it as a nice work of historical fiction and not the holy grail of accuracy, then you should be entertained. Linda in TN Stacy Wood wrote: > Which book? > > -----Original Message----- > From: mayflower-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mayflower-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of GMF > Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 9:51 AM > To: mayflower@rootsweb.com > Subject: [MFLR] MAYFLOWER > > Any opinions on this book by Nathaniel Philbrick? > > Thanks. > > > GMF > A Pearl is a Garment of > Patience That Enclosed > an Annoyance > > _____________________________________________________________ > Looking for insurance? Click to compare and save big. > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2121/fc/Ioyw6i3m276RoAFKeGeORjYERVtpTDnn > vHqxVsEDlBgcrJ5MLOmu2h/ > > > > Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ page > for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ page for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

At 12:40 PM 1/30/2008, Stacy Wood wrote: >Which book? AFAIK, Philbrick has written only one book that would be a subject of inquiry on this list - "Mayflower" (New York: Viking Penguin, 2006). Dale H. Cook, Member, NEHGS and MA Society of Mayflower Descendants; Plymouth Co. MA Coordinator for the USGenWeb Project http://members.cox.net/plymouthcolony/index.shtml

I know of at least one line that branches off of my Allerton ancestor and I think I know who it belongs to but that part of what was sent to me was cut off. IS THERE A WAY... because I know it's a privacy thing.. that say for example... I would contact Plymouth and say Here is a copy sent to me of another person who applied on the Allerton line and same lines as mine. Is it possible to connect with this person? Could or would Plymouth facilitate that? Sort of like trying to contact your biological parent. LOL Plymouth would contact the other member and say Hey someone from your line would like to make contact. I know I'm rambling but you know what I mean. It just doesn't make sense that there is someone else out there of my same line that I could be possibly sharing valuable information with. Does this make sense? Janean

Which book? -----Original Message----- From: mayflower-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mayflower-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of GMF Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 9:51 AM To: mayflower@rootsweb.com Subject: [MFLR] MAYFLOWER Any opinions on this book by Nathaniel Philbrick? Thanks. GMF A Pearl is a Garment of Patience That Enclosed an Annoyance _____________________________________________________________ Looking for insurance? Click to compare and save big. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2121/fc/Ioyw6i3m276RoAFKeGeORjYERVtpTDnn vHqxVsEDlBgcrJ5MLOmu2h/ Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ page for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Richard, I believe you're missing a generation below - it should read that your ancestor is John3 Rogers, son of John2 (Thomas1) Rogers + Anna Churchman, who married Elizabeth Peabody. Fill out the synopsis form at the society site (www.mayflowersociety.com) and submit it to see if the society has a previously approved well documented paper which matches your line. Since the first 5 generations are already done in book form, if a paper can be found containing another couple of generations, it would be a great help to you with documenting your middle generations (which can be a challenge). Best of luck, Susan E. Roser, Historian Canadian Society www.friendsofthepilgrims.com www.rootsweb.com/~canms/canada.html -----Original Message----- From: mayflower-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mayflower-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Richard Hayes Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 8:24 AM To: mayflower@rootsweb.com Subject: [MFLR] Thomas Rogers line Hello All, I have John Rogers, son of Thomas Rogers and Anna Churchman, who married Elizabeth Peabody, the daughter of William Peabody and Elizabeth Alden. Elizabeth Alden is my 8th great-grandmother. I also have other Mayflower connections. Since I live in Michigan I would contact the representative from Michigan. Is there anyone else connected to this line who goud give me some information? Richard ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ page for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello All, I have John Rogers, son of Thomas Rogers and Anna Churchman, who married Elizabeth Peabody, the daughter of William Peabody and Elizabeth Alden. Elizabeth Alden is my 8th great-grandmother. I also have other Mayflower connections. Since I live in Michigan I would contact the representative from Michigan. Is there anyone else connected to this line who goud give me some information? Richard ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----

Carol, >From what you wrote originally, it would appear that you asked if ANYONE else had made application and been accepted for the proposed lineage. And Plymouth has said, no. Perhaps they should have said No, and its because its Anna CHURCHMAN and not Anna Cushman, so its incorrect to begin with--unless that's a typo on your part in the email. Follow Dale's suggestion and jot down next to the names the correct SB volumes and page numbers just so you are sure. If it was a typo re Churchman/Cushman, then Plymouth has told you that for your entire line, no, no one else has applied so "no lineage papers". Its a "virgin" application. At least this is how I read your query.Robert M. GerrityYANKEE ANCESTRYP. O. Box 2814Acton, MA 01720> From: Bergee9353@aol.com> Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 15:35:12 -0500> To: mayflower@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [MFLR] John Howland-Thomas Rogers lines> > Actually what I sent (now that I have it in front of me) is a "Proposed > Application Review Form" and it asks for no documentation. It says "they will > evaluate your lineage and respond with instructions" and I assumed, then, I > would send in the documentation. Am I wrong in my assumption or should I have > sent documentation with this form? I was under the impression they would check > for others with some or part of the same lineage and I would only have to > send documentation for what they didn't already have to prove my line. I have it > for all but the first 4- 5 generations and I thought they were proven and > accepted already. My first line was super easy but these two are really > something else.> > > In a message dated 1/29/2008 2:23:31 P.M. Central Standard Time, > radiotest@cox.net writes:> > At 03:10 PM 1/29/2008, Carol wrote:> > >and perhaps a heads up to what I have done wrong.> > Carol -> > We would probably need to know what documentation you submitted for > each generation in order to figure out what went wrong. To begin > with, did you cite the appropriate Silver Books for the first five > generations of each line?> > Dale H. Cook, Member, NEHGS and MA Society of Mayflower Descendants;> Plymouth Co. MA Coordinator for the USGenWeb Project> http://members.cox.net/plymouthcolony/index.shtml > > Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ page > for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm> -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message> > > > > > **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. > http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489> Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ page for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm> -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Climb to the top of the charts! Play the word scramble challenge with star power. http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_jan

Carol, As others have suggested, you have done nothing wrong. You sent in the review form asking the office to check for a previously approved paper which matched your line. A paper could not be found, meaning that a) no one has ever joined the society based on your line or b) someone has joined based on your line but the paper is not sufficiently documented to be of help to you. Plymouth will tell you if there is a previously approved paper which matches part of your line which would help you with your documentation. If a paper is found, you can use the documentation from that paper up to the point where your lines branch off. This service that the society offers is a tool for you to use which may help with your documentation. When sending this synopsis of your line to the office, they usually do not check the first 5 generations because these are already proven in print - with the society's MF books. I have checked your Rogers line in the Rogers MF book (vol 19) and found that it is a valid line up to the birth of #6Job Smith - this is as far as the MF book goes. I hope this has helped. If you have any further questions that I can answer for you, feel free to email me privately. Susan E. Roser www.friendsofthepilgrims.com www.rootsweb.com/~canms/canada.html -----Original Message----- From: mayflower-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mayflower-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Bergee9353@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 3:35 PM To: mayflower@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MFLR] John Howland-Thomas Rogers lines Actually what I sent (now that I have it in front of me) is a "Proposed Application Review Form" and it asks for no documentation. It says "they will evaluate your lineage and respond with instructions" and I assumed, then, I would send in the documentation. Am I wrong in my assumption or should I have sent documentation with this form? I was under the impression they would check for others with some or part of the same lineage and I would only have to send documentation for what they didn't already have to prove my line. I have it for all but the first 4- 5 generations and I thought they were proven and accepted already. My first line was super easy but these two are really something else. In a message dated 1/29/2008 2:23:31 P.M. Central Standard Time, radiotest@cox.net writes: At 03:10 PM 1/29/2008, Carol wrote: >and perhaps a heads up to what I have done wrong. Carol - We would probably need to know what documentation you submitted for each generation in order to figure out what went wrong. To begin with, did you cite the appropriate Silver Books for the first five generations of each line? Dale H. Cook, Member, NEHGS and MA Society of Mayflower Descendants; Plymouth Co. MA Coordinator for the USGenWeb Project http://members.cox.net/plymouthcolony/index.shtml Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ page for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ page for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Perhaps you are right in assuming it might be a "virgin" application. Yes, it was a typo with the Churchman/Cushman name. Thanks so much to all for your input and help. Carol In a message dated 1/29/2008 2:59:05 P.M. Central Standard Time, yankeeancestry@hotmail.com writes: Carol, >From what you wrote originally, it would appear that you asked if ANYONE else had made application and been accepted for the proposed lineage. And Plymouth has said, no. Perhaps they should have said No, and its because its Anna CHURCHMAN and not Anna Cushman, so its incorrect to begin with--unless that's a typo on your part in the email. Follow Dale's suggestion and jot down next to the names the correct SB volumes and page numbers just so you are sure. If it was a typo re Churchman/Cushman, then Plymouth has told you that for your entire line, no, no one else has applied so "no lineage papers". Its a "virgin" application. At least this is how I read your query.Robert M. GerrityYANKEE ANCESTRYP. O. Box 2814Acton, MA 01720> From: Bergee9353@aol.com> Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 15:35:12 -0500> To: mayflower@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [MFLR] John Howland-Thomas Rogers lines> > Actually what I sent (now that I have it in front of me) is a "Proposed > Application Review Form" and it asks for no documentation. It says "they will > evaluate your lineage and respond with instructions" and I assumed, then, I > would send in the documentation. Am I wrong in my assumption or should I have > sent documentation with this form? I was under the impression they would check > for others with some or part of the same lineage and I would only have to > send documentation for what they didn't already have to prove my line. I have it > for all but the first 4- 5 generations and I thought they were proven and > accepted already. My first line was super easy but these two are really > something else.> > > In a message dated 1/29/2008 2:23:31 P.M. Central Standard Time, > radiotest@cox.net writes:> > At 03:10 PM 1/29/2008, Carol wrote:> > >and perhaps a heads up to what I have done wrong.> > Carol -> > We would probably need to know what documentation you submitted for > each generation in order to figure out what went wrong. To begin > with, did you cite the appropriate Silver Books for the first five > generations of each line?> > Dale H. Cook, Member, NEHGS and MA Society of Mayflower Descendants;> Plymouth Co. MA Coordinator for the USGenWeb Project> http://members.cox.net/plymouthcolony/index.shtml > > Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ page > for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm> -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message> > > > > > **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. > http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489> Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ page for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm> -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Climb to the top of the charts! Play the word scramble challenge with star power. http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_jan Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ page for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

Actually what I sent (now that I have it in front of me) is a "Proposed Application Review Form" and it asks for no documentation. It says "they will evaluate your lineage and respond with instructions" and I assumed, then, I would send in the documentation. Am I wrong in my assumption or should I have sent documentation with this form? I was under the impression they would check for others with some or part of the same lineage and I would only have to send documentation for what they didn't already have to prove my line. I have it for all but the first 4- 5 generations and I thought they were proven and accepted already. My first line was super easy but these two are really something else. In a message dated 1/29/2008 2:23:31 P.M. Central Standard Time, radiotest@cox.net writes: At 03:10 PM 1/29/2008, Carol wrote: >and perhaps a heads up to what I have done wrong. Carol - We would probably need to know what documentation you submitted for each generation in order to figure out what went wrong. To begin with, did you cite the appropriate Silver Books for the first five generations of each line? Dale H. Cook, Member, NEHGS and MA Society of Mayflower Descendants; Plymouth Co. MA Coordinator for the USGenWeb Project http://members.cox.net/plymouthcolony/index.shtml Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ page for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

At 03:10 PM 1/29/2008, Carol wrote: >and perhaps a heads up to what I have done wrong. Carol - We would probably need to know what documentation you submitted for each generation in order to figure out what went wrong. To begin with, did you cite the appropriate Silver Books for the first five generations of each line? Dale H. Cook, Member, NEHGS and MA Society of Mayflower Descendants; Plymouth Co. MA Coordinator for the USGenWeb Project http://members.cox.net/plymouthcolony/index.shtml

In a message dated 1/29/2008 2:12:00 P.M. Central Standard Time, Bergee9353@aol.com writes: The second line is Thomas Rogers John Rogers-Anna Cushman Elizebeth Rogers-Nathaniel Williams Elizebeth Williams-John Macomber Anna Macomber-John Smith Job Smith-Diadema Booth per Caleb Johnson AOL ROGERS. The only children of Thomas Rogers to have known descendants are Joseph Rogers who married Hannah, and John Rogers who married Anna Churchman. Just about every other Rogers in New England has been incorrectly tied to Thomas Rogers of the Mayflower in some publication or another. [MF 2:157-160; NYGBR 60:102-104 specifically disproves William Rogers of CT/Long Island as a son]. John Rogers and Ann Churchman marryed the xvith of Aprill, 1639 p210 Hope this might be of some help. Lee **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

I am wondering if anyone proven a line to John Howland that would include the following: Hope Howland-John Chipman Hope Chipman-Jonathan Cobb Joseph Cobb-Hannah Clark Hannah Cobb-Joseph Strout I recently sent in a snyposis of this and had it returned saying they had no lineage papers following this line. I know the line is solid and good from Hannah Cobb and Joseph Strout to the more recent generations as I already have a membership to Hopkins including the Cobb/Strout marriage. This is the second snyposis I have had returned for the same reason and I have to wonder if I am doing something wrong. The second line is Thomas Rogers John Rogers-Anna Cushman Elizebeth Rogers-Nathaniel Williams Elizebeth Williams-John Macomber Anna Macomber-John Smith Job Smith-Diadema Booth Job Smith-Bethia Stevens. I would appreciate an acknowledgement if anyone has proven lines that include these people, and perhaps a heads up to what I have done wrong. Carol **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489