Is anyone else having a problem accessing the NEHGS website today? I can't seem to get a connection and I know I've entered it correctly because it is one of my "favorites." Respond privately, please. Christie

At 08:52 PM 4/26/2008, Christie Trapp wrote: >The marriage entry for >Mary Wheeler and John Reed appears in the Abington VR, p. 224 and it >occurred in Rehoboth on Dec. 1, 1715. It is also found in Rehoboth VR 312, where John is called "of Abington." >Some time ago, like about 2003, there was a discussion on this list >about these same two people Ah, that accounts for the sense of deja vu. :-) >John Reed did have a first wife Sarah Hersey, but I have found nothing >to document the 1712 marriage date that I have in my database, but >surmise it to be that year based on the birth of his son John Reed who >married Mary Torrey. That would seem to be the case - MFIP Cooke has "ca. 1712." Dale H. Cook, Member, NEHGS and MA Society of Mayflower Descendants; Plymouth Co. MA Coordinator for the USGenWeb Project Administrator of http://plymouthcolony.net

Fran asked: "Could you tell us a bit about Mary Wheeler's parentage? I have a Mary Wheeler b. 3 Feb 1676 d 31 Jan 1729 m. Eliphil Gillette but I know noting about her." ************************************************* Mary Wheeler's Parentage: Mary WHEELER Reed, mother of 10 children descended from Francis Cooke, was born 18 MAR 1694/95 in Swansea, Bristol, MA to James Wheeler (son of Henry Wheeler and Abigail Allen), James b. 27 MAY 1667 in Salisbury, Essex, MA and Grizzell Squire (daughter of Phillip Squire and Rachel Ruggles), Grizzell b. 14 MAY 1668 in Boston, Suffolk, MA . James and Grizzell were m. before 1691 when their first child, William, was born in Rehoboth, MA. In total, James Wheeler and Grizzell Squire had the following children: William WHEELER b: 3 APR 1691 in Rehoboth, Bristol, MA Abigail WHEELER b: ABT 1693 Mary WHEELER b: 18 MAR 1694/95 in Swansea, Bristol, MA James WHEELER b: 27 MAR 1697 in Rehoboth, Bristol, MA Philip WHEELER b: 4 MAR 1698 in Rehoboth, Bristol, MA Rachel WHEELER b: 4 APR 1701 in Rehoboth, Bristol, MA Squire WHEELER b: 3 APR 1703 in Rehoboth, Bristol, MA Ann WHEELER b: 26 FEB 1704/5 in Rehoboth, Bristol, MA Grizzell died sometime before 1738 when James married again, Norton Vital Records and James Arnold: Elizabeth BRINTNALL Married: 2 OCT 1738 in Norton, Bristol, MA Wheeler, James of Rehoboth and Elizabeth Brintnol of Norton, married at Norton by Rev. Ebenezer White Oct. 2, 1738. Int. Sept. 16, 1738. James Wheeler, father of Mary Wheeler REED, died and left a will: Will of James Wheelor of Reho., yeoman, 'being aged & infirm of body, dated. 11 Aug. 1741, probated 28 May 1753. Wife Elizabeth. Sons: William, Phillip, Squire & James (dcd.) Wheelor. Daus: Abigail wife of John West (JCN Note: 2nd marriage, first to Ebenezer Martin. They were parents of John Martin, husband of Cooke descendant #938 Mary Reed), Mary wife of John Dyer (this is Mary Wheeler REED - proof of parentage and second marriage; thus confirming it was she, not daughter Mary Reed who m. John Dyer), Rachel wife of Samuel Thurber & Ann wife of Azariakim Peirce. Grchldn: Henry, James, John, Nathaniel, Jeremiah, Elizabeth, Mehetable & Hannah Wheelor chldn. of my son James dcd. Wife to be exec. Witns: Joshua Smith, Nathaniel Smith & Peres Bradford. [13:400/1/2]. (above transcribed courtesy of Jim Bullock, j.b. bullock@comcast.net) I don't know if your Mary Wheeler fits in this family, but I would examine children of the sons - or the sons of the brothers of James Wheeler, depending on the location of your Mary Wheeler. Judy Chace Needham ______________________________________ No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.5/1398 - Release Date: 4/25/2008 2:31 PM

Scott: The Whitmarsh came from a Register article. The silver book for Cooke is correct, that is, her surname is Wheeler. The marriage entry for Mary Wheeler and John Reed appears in the Abington VR, p. 224 and it occurred in Rehoboth on Dec. 1, 1715. After John Reed's death, she married on April 17, 1739 a John Dyer. She died in Bristol on Dec. 1777. Dyer also died in Bristol. Some time ago, like about 2003, there was a discussion on this list about these same two people and the fact that the Register article about the Ford family and the Cooke silver calls her Wheeler rather than Whitmarsh. I researched this issue myself as far as VRs go and as cited above, found the marriage in the Abington VR as Wheeler not Whitmarsh. The same individual who was on the Mayflower list indicated that her line was accepted by the Mayflower Society with the Wheeler surname as the wife of John Reed. So, if you wish to make a comment in your notes about Mary Wheeler that in the Register she is cited as a Whitmarsh I would do so. In addition, make the comment that the Mayflower Society accepts the Wheeler name and I would go with the Wheeler name myself based on the marriage record. In addition, my husband is a Cooke descendant himself, not through this particular line, but he has a cousin who has sorted out the Reed families and he was a big help with this particular family when I talked with him about the problem/conflict. He too agrees that she should be a Wheeler and not a Whitmarsh. John Reed did have a first wife Sarah Hersey, but I have found nothing to document the 1712 marriage date that I have in my database, but surmise it to be that year based on the birth of his son John Reed who married Mary Torrey. Hope this helps. Christie -----Original Message----- From: Scottsfamilytree@aol.com To: MAYFLOWER@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 1:12 pm Subject: [MFLR] Who was John Reeds second wife? On page 224, Vol 12, Family 193 John Reed it mentions his wives Sarah Hersey(?) And Mary Wheeler instead of Mary Whitmarsh, what do you think??In the Cooke Silver Book. In The Reed Genealogy, descendants of William Reed by John L. Reed. On Page 25. Family No. 13. It mentions that John Reeds first wife was Sarah Hersey and his second wife was Mary Whitmarsh. So who was John Reeds second wife? And other odd fact is that John Reed and his brother Jacob married two different women with the name Sarah Hersey. Scott McKay **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851) Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ page for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Could you tell us a bit about Mary Wheeler's parentage? I have a Mary Wheeler b. 3 Feb 1676 d 31 Jan 1729 m. Eliphil Gillette but I know noting about her... Thanks in advance. Fran

John Reed's second wife was Mary WHEELER. I joined the Mayflower Society by proving this line. And, the correction to the Cooke Silver book: Mary WHEELER Reed as her second husband, married John Dyer, miller, of Bristol, RI. It was NOT her daughter Mary Reed who married John Dyer. Daughter Mary (of John Reed and Mary Wheeler Reed) married her first cousin, John Martin of Barrington, RI and had issue. John and Mary (Reed) Martin are my Gr-Gr-Gr-Gr Grandparents. Mary WHEELER's son Joseph Reed m. John Dyer's daughter (by his first wife Sarah Bowerman), Mary. Joseph and Mary (Dyer) Reed's daughter Sarah Reed m. her first cousin Benjamin Martin, son of John and Mary (REED) Martin. Both Benjamin Martin and Sarah Reed Martin are descendants of Francis Cooke, and are my Gr-Gr-Gr Grandparents. Judy Chace Needham __________________________ No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.5/1398 - Release Date: 4/25/2008 2:31 PM

On page 224, Vol 12, Family 193 John Reed it mentions his wives Sarah Hersey(?) And Mary Wheeler instead of Mary Whitmarsh, what do you think??In the Cooke Silver Book. In The Reed Genealogy, descendants of William Reed by John L. Reed. On Page 25. Family No. 13. It mentions that John Reeds first wife was Sarah Hersey and his second wife was Mary Whitmarsh. So who was John Reeds second wife? And other odd fact is that John Reed and his brother Jacob married two different women with the name Sarah Hersey. Scott McKay **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851)

List members: It appears a member has signed up for some sort of contact management program which automatically emailed everyone in his address book asking them to "friend" him or whatever. I will contact him one-on-one. Just ignore it. No reason to fill up everybody's inbox with stuff to deal with. Also, the FAQ message at the bottom of every message is legitimate. Susan and I and others put that together years ago to help newbies get some quick answers without emailing the entire list with frequently asked questions. No responses on the list please. Technically, all of these last ten messages or so have been off-topic. :-) Thanks! -- Craig d the body of the message

There is nothing wrong with that link. no bug will get cha. :-) I did however check it out online in a google search first and its Ok.. Its just another list to subscribe to thats all. (See below) Joyce To subscribe, send an e-mail message containing the one word message: Subscribe To: Mayflower-l-request@rootsweb.com _____________________________________________________________ Boost your productivity with new office software. Click now! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2121/fc/Ioyw6i3mEat7eC3tbc5QeMrhdkR3VIpYnVrD8pja6M4azTdwHN94Ff/

Laurie, Definitely my own paranoia here, but another subscriber sure went over the deep end over my post though. I guess my concerns were the post with just the link with nothing else, not to mention the fact that I got three nearly identical copies of it and that tends to raise a flag sometimes. Sorry to get things stirred up needlessly. Back to more mundane matters. . . . :-) David E. Cann decann@infionline.net -----Original Message----- From: mayflower-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mayflower-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of LAURIE4756@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, 15 April 2008 5:30 PM To: mayflower@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MFLR] Bill has Tagged you! :) Anyone who has been a long time researcher or subscriber to the lists knows Craig Rich has been a valuable contributor for years. Paranoia can be avoided by "Googling" the link or looking through archives. Sharing resources is not "Links du-jour".... they are invaluable to those in search of clues. <snip>

Oh I know this for sure... thought I wrote that as well, my bad!! Either way, List Admin. or not his research and expertise is well-known and appreciated from the decades long subscriber! Laurie In a message dated 4/15/2008 5:59:45 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, ksullivan@hvc.rr.com writes: Actually, Craig Rich is the list administrator, and he drives the train. Karen **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolcmp00300000002850)

Anyone who has been a long time researcher or subscriber to the lists knows Craig Rich has been a valuable contributor for years. Paranoia can be avoided by "Googling" the link or looking through archives. Sharing resources is not "Links du-jour".... they are invaluable to those in search of clues. In a message dated 4/15/2008 4:39:40 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, decann@infionline.net writes: What is this, "Links du-Jour" or something? :-( I would not recommend anyone clicking on the link, if I were you. David E. Cann decann@infionline.net **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolcmp00300000002850)

What is this, "Links du-Jour" or something? :-( I would not recommend anyone clicking on the link, if I were you. David E. Cann decann@infionline.net -----Original Message----- From: mayflower-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mayflower-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Bill Martin Sent: Tuesday, 15 April 2008 3:17 PM To: mayflower-l@rootsweb.com Subject: [MFLR] Bill has Tagged you! :) Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ page for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Bill, They were probably in transit to VT at the 1800 cenus or boarding with another family in Middleborough, or just missed! Frustrating, I know, but technically not important if you are sure the 1790 family is the same as the 1804 family, plus or minus several children. (1) Try also the Redding Surname boards (2) Plymouth County records are microfilmed and so orderable for a search through your area FHL or can be searched by NEHGS staff as they've both microfilm copy and manuscript copies. (3) You might contact Old Colony Historical Society to see what, if anything, they have on Reddings. (4) Also, you might want to figure out what county(ies) they are in in VT and try to do microfilm searches for deeds and probates (its a lot, a lot, less extensive than for Mass. records). NEHGS has a range of recent published data-extract books as well as what films exist. (5) If they moved on int0 NY from VT, you'll want to do ditto for NY counties and towns. Getting at those records, also microfilmed, is much more difficult than Mass. records. As I'm not going into Boston anytime soon, can't offer to check. Sorry Robert M. Gerrity YANKEE ANCESTRY P. O. Box 2814 Acton, MA 01720 > Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 04:41:08 -0700 > From: wgvh2@yahoo.com > To: mayflower@rootsweb.com > Subject: [MFLR] MARRIAGE DATE IS 1776 NOT 1756 !: Moses REDDING, b.1741 Middleboro mrd Priscilla RIDER, b.1756 Plymouth > > MARRIAGE DATE IS 1776 NOT 1756 ! > > --- On Sun, 4/6/08, W V wrote: > >> From: W V >> Subject: Moses REDDING,b.1741 Middleboro mrd Priscilla RIDER,b.1756 Plymouth >> To: mayflower@rootsweb.com >> Date: Sunday, April 6, 2008, 8:16 PM >> Moses REDDING married Priscilla Rider in 1756 at Plymouth. >> Priscilla RIDER claims descent from at least four MAYFLOWER >> passengers: John ALDEN, William BREWSTER, William MULLINS >> and Richard WARREN. >> >> Their children were born in Middleborough/Middleboro, MA, >> and the family appears on the 1790 Census there. NOT until >> 1804 does the couple appear again. This time in Barnet, >> Caledonia Co, Vermont. They do NOT appear for certain on >> the 1800 Census. >> >> 1) I was wondering if anyone has access to Middleborough, >> MA land records that have a date or dates when Moses >> REDDING sold his land holdings in that town and departed ? >> >> 2) Is there any indication where Moses and family went and >> where they were during all those intervening 15 years ? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Bill Van Hemert >> William MULLINS Descendant > Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ page for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ More immediate than e-mail? Get instant access with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_instantaccess_042008

At 09:28 AM 4/7/2008, June Wheeler wrote: >I have a Mary Redding b.Bloomfield,VT on 2-20-1776. June - Moses and Priscilla were married 03-Nov-1776 [Plymouth VR 384] so your Mary was not likely theirs. Even if OS dating was involved, the birth would have been less than three months after the wedding. Dale H. Cook, Member, NEHGS and MA Society of Mayflower Descendants; Plymouth Co. MA Coordinator for the USGenWeb Project Administrator of http://plymouthcolony.net

I have a Mary Redding b.Bloomfield,VT on 2-20-1776. she married Enos Walker (my May flower descendent) in 1800 in Brimfield,MA. I haven't been able to find any info on her. Could she be in your family of Moses Redding. It seems she was Born abt the time Moses was Married. Would love to find her line. June Wheeler. philw135@yahoo.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "W V" <wgvh2@yahoo.com> To: <mayflower@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 7:41 AM Subject: [MFLR] MARRIAGE DATE IS 1776 NOT 1756 !: Moses REDDING,b.1741 Middleboro mrd Priscilla RIDER, b.1756 Plymouth > MARRIAGE DATE IS 1776 NOT 1756 ! > > --- On Sun, 4/6/08, W V <wgvh2@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> From: W V <wgvh2@yahoo.com> >> Subject: Moses REDDING,b.1741 Middleboro mrd Priscilla RIDER,b.1756 >> Plymouth >> To: mayflower@rootsweb.com >> Date: Sunday, April 6, 2008, 8:16 PM >> Moses REDDING married Priscilla Rider in 1756 at Plymouth. >> Priscilla RIDER claims descent from at least four MAYFLOWER >> passengers: John ALDEN, William BREWSTER, William MULLINS >> and Richard WARREN. >> >> Their children were born in Middleborough/Middleboro, MA, >> and the family appears on the 1790 Census there. NOT until >> 1804 does the couple appear again. This time in Barnet, >> Caledonia Co, Vermont. They do NOT appear for certain on >> the 1800 Census. >> >> 1) I was wondering if anyone has access to Middleborough, >> MA land records that have a date or dates when Moses >> REDDING sold his land holdings in that town and departed ? >> >> 2) Is there any indication where Moses and family went and >> where they were during all those intervening 15 years ? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Bill Van Hemert >> William MULLINS Descendant > Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ page > for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

MARRIAGE DATE IS 1776 NOT 1756 ! --- On Sun, 4/6/08, W V <wgvh2@yahoo.com> wrote: > From: W V <wgvh2@yahoo.com> > Subject: Moses REDDING,b.1741 Middleboro mrd Priscilla RIDER,b.1756 Plymouth > To: mayflower@rootsweb.com > Date: Sunday, April 6, 2008, 8:16 PM > Moses REDDING married Priscilla Rider in 1756 at Plymouth. > Priscilla RIDER claims descent from at least four MAYFLOWER > passengers: John ALDEN, William BREWSTER, William MULLINS > and Richard WARREN. > > Their children were born in Middleborough/Middleboro, MA, > and the family appears on the 1790 Census there. NOT until > 1804 does the couple appear again. This time in Barnet, > Caledonia Co, Vermont. They do NOT appear for certain on > the 1800 Census. > > 1) I was wondering if anyone has access to Middleborough, > MA land records that have a date or dates when Moses > REDDING sold his land holdings in that town and departed ? > > 2) Is there any indication where Moses and family went and > where they were during all those intervening 15 years ? > > Thanks, > > Bill Van Hemert > William MULLINS Descendant