Bob & Dee: Thanks for the Great Migration article covering Mathew Grant - Priscilla Grey marriage. -----Original Message----- From: Bob & Dee Carroll <bobdee@westelcom.com> To: mayflower@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu, 29 May 2008 5:39 am Subject: Re: [MFLR] Mathew Grant - Priscilla Grey Anderson in the Great Migration Begins has a sketch on Matthew Grant with some additional sources: BIRTH: 27 October 1601 [Goodwin Anc 106]. MARRIAGE: (1) 16 November 1625 Priscilla _____ [Goodwin Anc 106]; she died at Windsor 27 April 1644, aged 43 years 2 months [Goodwin Anc 106]. (2) Windsor 29 May 1645 Susanna (Capen) Rockwell, The comments section says: "On 29 May 1640 "mother Mathew Grant died" at Windsor [Grant 79]. This is all we know for certain of the ancestry of Matthew Grant. One possible origin which has been proposed in the past for both Matthew Grant and his wife Priscilla was seriously questioned by J. Gardner Bartlett [Gen Mag 3:63-64], and in 1948 Marie Tylee McHugh thoroughly disproved the ancestry claimed for Priscilla [NEHGR 102:153]. In 1975 George E. McCracken discussed the matter further, summarizing the efforts of others who had also rejected the Grant ancestry [TAG 51:236, 239]. BIBLIOGRAPHIC NOTE: The best treatment of Matthew Grant was prepared by Frank Farnsworth Starr, and includes a transcript of a personal record of vital events, which has been used frequently above [Goodwin Anc 99-110]. (This personal record was also published by Stiles [Windsor Hist 2:303-04].) Mary Walton Ferris also treated Matthew Grant [Dawes-Gates 2:370-79]." Thus pursuit of Priscilla's ancestry seems futile: Regards, Bob Carroll Westport NY. On May 29, 2008, christietrapp@aol.com ; > I am hoping someone has access to a TAG article and can either scan it, > or cite me what it might have said about the marriage of Mathew Grant > who was born Oct. 27, 1601. > > I am going through the History of Stonington, Connecticut and on p. > 400, it says: "Mathew Grant and Priscilla ___, b. Feb. 27, 1600, m. > Nov. 16, 1625; she d. April 27, 1644, aged 43 years. He m. 2nd, > Susannah (Chapen) Rochwell, widow of Dea. William Rockwell, May 29, > 1645; she d. Nov. 14, 1666; he d. Dec. 16, 1681"

Hal: Thanks for the Register article which also covers the TAG article I wished to obtain. It appears from what is written that the surname of Grey has been debunked as being the wife of Mathew Grant and therefore, I am going to remove it from my records and put her as Priscilla Unknown. I will be, however, putting this e-mail exchange into the notes to document the reason why I have removed the surname of Grey from Priscilla's name. Since I also have a photocopy of the pages from the Adamic Lineage, I will also be making the notation oin my copy and the next time I hit the Family History Library I will also make a penciled note in that book so any future research who reviews that particular book in the stacks is aware that Grey should not be used for her surname. Thanks again for providing me with this information. Christie -----Original Message----- From: Hal Bradley <hw.bradley@verizon.net> To: mayflower@rootsweb.com Cc: mayflower@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu, 29 May 2008 12:03 am Subject: Re: [MFLR] Mathew Grant - Priscilla Grey Christie, I do not have the TAG article at hand, but hopefully you will find the following useful. McHugh, Marie Tylee, "Matthew Grant-Grey, Earl of Kent: Correction," NEHGR 102:2 (Apr 1948), p. 153 has the following: "The statement that Priscilla, wife of Matthew Grant (Emi.) of Windsor, Conn., was the daughter of Rev. Anthony Grey, has been repeated again and again in various publications. I offer the following correction as the error is being included in Grant records. In view of the fact that Matthew specifically stated that his first wife, Priscilla, was born Monday, February 27, 1601 and died April 1644 age 43, the following is quite convincing: 1 - Monument and Arms of Anthony Grey, who died Nov. 9, 1643 and of his wife, Magdalene (Purfoy) who died April 16, 1653, ae 81. Their children were Priscilla b. March 14, 1609, died young. Priscilla, again, born May 7, 1615, married John St. Nicholas, Esq. 2 - The Inscription of the Monument of Priscilla reads: -- "The noble and virtuous Grey, youngest daughter of Rt. Hon. Anthony Gray, Earl of Kent... deceased September 16, 1665 in the 51st year of her age, and lyeth here interred, resting in hope." Buried Sept. 20, 1665. "Here lyeth the body of John St. Nicholas, husband of Lady Priscilla, died May 21, 1698." These items prove conclusively that Priscilla, wife of Matthew Grant, was not the daughter of Anthony Gray, Earl of Kent." This family is also discussed in Anderson's GMB 2:801-3. Anderson states, "On 29 May 1640 "mother Mathew Grant died" at Windsor [Grant 79]. This is all we know for certain of the ancestry of Matthew Grant. One possible origin which has been proposed in the past for both Matthew Grant and his wife Priscilla was seriously questioned by J. Gardner Bartlett [Gen Mag 3:63-64], and in 1948 Marie Tylee McHugh thoroughly disproved the ancestry claimed for Priscilla [NEHGR 102:153]. In 1975 George E. McCracken discussed the matter further, summarizing the efforts of others who had also rejected the Grant ancestry [TAG 51:236, 239]. The best treatment of Matthew Grant was prepared by Frank Farnsworth Starr, and includes a transcript of a personal record of vital events, which has been used frequently above [Goodwin Anc 99-110]. (This personal record was also published by Stiles [ Windsor Hist 2:303-04].) Mary Walton Ferris also treated Matthew Grant [Dawes-Gates 2:370-79]." Hal Bradley On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 11:40 PM, christietrapp@aol.com wrote: > I am hoping someone has access to a TAG article and can either scan > it, or cite me what it might have said about the marriage of Mathew > Grant who was born Oct. 27, 1601. > > I am going through the History of Stonington, Connecticut and on p. > 400, it says: "Mathew Grant and Priscilla ___, b. Feb. 27, 1600, m. > Nov. 16, 1625; she d. April 27, 1644, aged 43 years. He m. 2nd, > Susannah (Chapen) Rochwell, widow of Dea. William Rockwell, May 29, > 1645; she d. Nov. 14, 1666; he d. Dec. 16, 1681" > > Another researcher had written into the blank for her surname "Not > Grey see TAG 51:236" > > The only other sources I have for these two people is a book entitled > Adamic Lineage. This particular source does not cite sources at all. > It is nothing more than a series of Pedigree charts that is folloiwng > the lineage of a Fuller (I can't remember which one, but at my local > Family History Library has it filled in the family genealogies in the > "F's" and in the Fuller section). The second was a website that was, > back in 2005, covering the lineage of Ulysses S. Grant. I tried going > back to that website earlier this month and it had been moved. I > believe I found it, but am not sure. In either case, neither of these > sources cite any sources at all; hence I'm hoping that the article > that appeared in TAG might be of some help. > > I have her name as Priscilla Grey, which came from, I'm sure, these > two undocumented sources. > > I need to know the following from the article: > > Complete title of the article > Author > Publication date > Complete pagination, not just the page I just cited, unless that page > is the extent of the article. > > If the article isn't scanned, then I need to know the gist of what it > has to say about the wife Priscilla and her parentage. As the History > of Stonington gives her date of birth, I'm curious as to why her name > is not known, unless the date of birth is based upon her age at death > from her tombstone. > > Can anyone help? > > Christie Trapp > Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ > page for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ page for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Anderson in the Great Migration Begins has a sketch on Matthew Grant with some additional sources: BIRTH: 27 October 1601 [Goodwin Anc 106]. MARRIAGE: (1) 16 November 1625 Priscilla _____ [Goodwin Anc 106]; she died at Windsor 27 April 1644, aged 43 years 2 months [Goodwin Anc 106]. (2) Windsor 29 May 1645 Susanna (Capen) Rockwell, The comments section says: "On 29 May 1640 "mother Mathew Grant died" at Windsor [Grant 79]. This is all we know for certain of the ancestry of Matthew Grant. One possible origin which has been proposed in the past for both Matthew Grant and his wife Priscilla was seriously questioned by J. Gardner Bartlett [Gen Mag 3:63-64], and in 1948 Marie Tylee McHugh thoroughly disproved the ancestry claimed for Priscilla [NEHGR 102:153]. In 1975 George E. McCracken discussed the matter further, summarizing the efforts of others who had also rejected the Grant ancestry [TAG 51:236, 239]. BIBLIOGRAPHIC NOTE: The best treatment of Matthew Grant was prepared by Frank Farnsworth Starr, and includes a transcript of a personal record of vital events, which has been used frequently above [Goodwin Anc 99-110]. (This personal record was also published by Stiles [Windsor Hist 2:303-04].) Mary Walton Ferris also treated Matthew Grant [Dawes-Gates 2:370-79]." Thus pursuit of Priscilla's ancestry seems futile: Regards, Bob Carroll Westport NY. On May 29, 2008, christietrapp@aol.com ; > I am hoping someone has access to a TAG article and can either scan it, > or cite me what it might have said about the marriage of Mathew Grant > who was born Oct. 27, 1601. > > I am going through the History of Stonington, Connecticut and on p. > 400, it says: "Mathew Grant and Priscilla ___, b. Feb. 27, 1600, m. > Nov. 16, 1625; she d. April 27, 1644, aged 43 years. He m. 2nd, > Susannah (Chapen) Rochwell, widow of Dea. William Rockwell, May 29, > 1645; she d. Nov. 14, 1666; he d. Dec. 16, 1681"

I am hoping someone has access to a TAG article and can either scan it, or cite me what it might have said about the marriage of Mathew Grant who was born Oct. 27, 1601. I am going through the History of Stonington, Connecticut and on p. 400, it says: "Mathew Grant and Priscilla ___, b. Feb. 27, 1600, m. Nov. 16, 1625; she d. April 27, 1644, aged 43 years. He m. 2nd, Susannah (Chapen) Rochwell, widow of Dea. William Rockwell, May 29, 1645; she d. Nov. 14, 1666; he d. Dec. 16, 1681" Another researcher had written into the blank for her surname "Not Grey see TAG 51:236" The only other sources I have for these two people is a book entitled Adamic Lineage. This particular source does not cite sources at all. It is nothing more than a series of Pedigree charts that is folloiwng the lineage of a Fuller (I can't remember which one, but at my local Family History Library has it filled in the family genealogies in the "F's" and in the Fuller section). The second was a website that was, back in 2005, covering the lineage of Ulysses S. Grant. I tried going back to that website earlier this month and it had been moved. I believe I found it, but am not sure. In either case, neither of these sources cite any sources at all; hence I'm hoping that the article that appeared in TAG might be of some help. I have her name as Priscilla Grey, which came from, I'm sure, these two undocumented sources. I need to know the following from the article: Complete title of the article Author Publication date Complete pagination, not just the page I just cited, unless that page is the extent of the article. If the article isn't scanned, then I need to know the gist of what it has to say about the wife Priscilla and her parentage. As the History of Stonington gives her date of birth, I'm curious as to why her name is not known, unless the date of birth is based upon her age at death from her tombstone. Can anyone help? Christie Trapp

Christie, I do not have the TAG article at hand, but hopefully you will find the following useful. McHugh, Marie Tylee, "Matthew Grant-Grey, Earl of Kent: Correction," NEHGR 102:2 (Apr 1948), p. 153 has the following: "The statement that Priscilla, wife of Matthew Grant (Emi.) of Windsor, Conn., was the daughter of Rev. Anthony Grey, has been repeated again and again in various publications. I offer the following correction as the error is being included in Grant records. In view of the fact that Matthew specifically stated that his first wife, Priscilla, was born Monday, February 27, 1601 and died April 1644 age 43, the following is quite convincing: 1 - Monument and Arms of Anthony Grey, who died Nov. 9, 1643 and of his wife, Magdalene (Purfoy) who died April 16, 1653, ae 81. Their children were Priscilla b. March 14, 1609, died young. Priscilla, again, born May 7, 1615, married John St. Nicholas, Esq. 2 - The Inscription of the Monument of Priscilla reads: -- "The noble and virtuous Grey, youngest daughter of Rt. Hon. Anthony Gray, Earl of Kent... deceased September 16, 1665 in the 51st year of her age, and lyeth here interred, resting in hope." Buried Sept. 20, 1665. "Here lyeth the body of John St. Nicholas, husband of Lady Priscilla, died May 21, 1698." These items prove conclusively that Priscilla, wife of Matthew Grant, was not the daughter of Anthony Gray, Earl of Kent." This family is also discussed in Anderson's GMB 2:801-3. Anderson states, "On 29 May 1640 "mother Mathew Grant died" at Windsor [Grant 79]. This is all we know for certain of the ancestry of Matthew Grant. One possible origin which has been proposed in the past for both Matthew Grant and his wife Priscilla was seriously questioned by J. Gardner Bartlett [Gen Mag 3:63-64], and in 1948 Marie Tylee McHugh thoroughly disproved the ancestry claimed for Priscilla [NEHGR 102:153]. In 1975 George E. McCracken discussed the matter further, summarizing the efforts of others who had also rejected the Grant ancestry [TAG 51:236, 239]. The best treatment of Matthew Grant was prepared by Frank Farnsworth Starr, and includes a transcript of a personal record of vital events, which has been used frequently above [Goodwin Anc 99-110]. (This personal record was also published by Stiles [ Windsor Hist 2:303-04].) Mary Walton Ferris also treated Matthew Grant [Dawes-Gates 2:370-79]." Hal Bradley On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 11:40 PM, christietrapp@aol.com wrote: > I am hoping someone has access to a TAG article and can either scan > it, or cite me what it might have said about the marriage of Mathew > Grant who was born Oct. 27, 1601. > > I am going through the History of Stonington, Connecticut and on p. > 400, it says: "Mathew Grant and Priscilla ___, b. Feb. 27, 1600, m. > Nov. 16, 1625; she d. April 27, 1644, aged 43 years. He m. 2nd, > Susannah (Chapen) Rochwell, widow of Dea. William Rockwell, May 29, > 1645; she d. Nov. 14, 1666; he d. Dec. 16, 1681" > > Another researcher had written into the blank for her surname "Not > Grey see TAG 51:236" > > The only other sources I have for these two people is a book entitled > Adamic Lineage. This particular source does not cite sources at all. > It is nothing more than a series of Pedigree charts that is folloiwng > the lineage of a Fuller (I can't remember which one, but at my local > Family History Library has it filled in the family genealogies in the > "F's" and in the Fuller section). The second was a website that was, > back in 2005, covering the lineage of Ulysses S. Grant. I tried going > back to that website earlier this month and it had been moved. I > believe I found it, but am not sure. In either case, neither of these > sources cite any sources at all; hence I'm hoping that the article > that appeared in TAG might be of some help. > > I have her name as Priscilla Grey, which came from, I'm sure, these > two undocumented sources. > > I need to know the following from the article: > > Complete title of the article > Author > Publication date > Complete pagination, not just the page I just cited, unless that page > is the extent of the article. > > If the article isn't scanned, then I need to know the gist of what it > has to say about the wife Priscilla and her parentage. As the History > of Stonington gives her date of birth, I'm curious as to why her name > is not known, unless the date of birth is based upon her age at death > from her tombstone. > > Can anyone help? > > Christie Trapp > Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ > page for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

>I was wondering if some kind soul who has the MF5G, Volume 8 (Degory >Priest) would be kind enough to check the following line to see if >it is listed, and whether it is valid. > >1. Degory Priest, Mayflower passenger = Sarah (Allerton) Vincent, >sister of Isaac Allerton > >2. Sarah Priest = John Coombs > >3. Francis Coombs = Mary Barker > >4. Ruth Coombs/Combs = Ebenezer Bennett > >5. Deborah Bennett = James Keith > >6. Hannah Keith > >Any help greatly appreciated. Is this maybe the Hannah Keith who married Capt. John Shaw and had a son Oliver? I had asked myself the same question you have here, but after consulting the Priest silver book, I looked elsewhere and have decided her likely parents to be Patience Cobb & John Bennett (brother of your Ebenezer). Margaret

see http://dcrichardson.home.mindspring.com/priest/ Rick Turner wrote: > Hello all: > > I was wondering if some kind soul who has the MF5G, Volume 8 (Degory Priest) would be kind enough to check the following line to see if it is listed, and whether it is valid. > > 1. Degory Priest, Mayflower passenger = Sarah (Allerton) Vincent, sister of Isaac Allerton > > 2. Sarah Priest = John Coombs > > 3. Francis Coombs = Mary Barker > > 4. Ruth Coombs/Combs = Ebenezer Bennett > > 5. Deborah Bennett = James Keith > > 6. Hannah Keith > > Any help greatly appreciated. > > Kind regards to all, > > Rick Turner, Bemidji MN (a descendant of Chilton, Cooke, Hopkins, Soule and Warren) > > Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ page for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

At 04:01 PM 5/25/2008, Rick Turner wrote: >I was wondering if some kind soul who has the MF5G, Volume 8 (Degory >Priest) would be kind enough to check the following line to see if >it is listed, and whether it is valid. > >1. Degory Priest, Mayflower passenger = Sarah (Allerton) Vincent, >sister of Isaac Allerton > >2. Sarah Priest = John Coombs > >3. Francis Coombs = Mary Barker > >4. Ruth Coombs/Combs = Ebenezer Bennett > >5. Deborah Bennett = James Keith > >6. Hannah Keith Ruth Coombs and Ebenezer Bennett are not given a daughter Deborah in the 1994 first edition of MF5G, Vol. 8. Ebenezer's will does not mention such a child. Sorry! Regards, Robert Robert L. Ward Genealogical Research 12236 Shadetree Lane, Laurel, MD 20708-2832 301-776-1659 http://www.RLWard.com/ Info@RLWard.com

Hello all: I was wondering if some kind soul who has the MF5G, Volume 8 (Degory Priest) would be kind enough to check the following line to see if it is listed, and whether it is valid. 1. Degory Priest, Mayflower passenger = Sarah (Allerton) Vincent, sister of Isaac Allerton 2. Sarah Priest = John Coombs 3. Francis Coombs = Mary Barker 4. Ruth Coombs/Combs = Ebenezer Bennett 5. Deborah Bennett = James Keith 6. Hannah Keith Any help greatly appreciated. Kind regards to all, Rick Turner, Bemidji MN (a descendant of Chilton, Cooke, Hopkins, Soule and Warren)

Greetings, For those of you subscribed to this list who are interested in genetic genealogy (using DNA for genealogy), I wanted to let you know that the May issue of the International Society of Genetic Genealogy's (ISOGG) newsletter is a special society edition and the Mayflower DNA Project is the featured project. The ISOGG newsletter is a once-per-month online publication which strives to keep you informed on the latest news and advances in genetic genealogy. The newsletter is distributed via a Yahoo mailing list and subscriber e-mails are confidential. To subscribe and/or view past issues: http://www.isogg.org/newsletter/info.htm Best regards, Katherine Borges ISOGG Director (and Fuller DNA Project Administrator) www.isogg.org

Since the last flurry of posts regarding the Cobb/Howland/Chipman lines, I've had many emails from list members asking for updates, and have responded to some directly, but just wanted to let others know that my Henry Cobb book has (finally) been published. Please see the website below for details. And if you have any questions, please contact me directly, not on the list. Thanks, Susan E. Roser (roser@iprimus.ca) www.friendsofthepilgrims.com www.rootsweb.com/~canms/canada.html

The GSMD accepted my line through the Walkers in 1993, and as far as I know, the line is still considered valid. In this case, I descend from Jabez and Elizabeth's son, Jeremiah. The main reference for this line is "Memorial of the Walkers of The Old Plymouth Colony" [1861], written by J.B.R. Walker, relied upon by "Mayflower Families Through Five Generations, Volume 6: Stephen Hopkins" [1992], especially in the case of the children of Richard's brother, Jeremiah. MF5G states on page 17, that "William Walker is perh. the man of that name who came on the Elizabeth in 1635 at the age of 15..." ----- Original Message ----- From: Kirk Graham To: MAYFLOWER-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 9:09 PM Subject: [MFLR] About William Walker I've been researching some of my family tree and found what may be a path to Stephen Hopkins through his daughter Constance. I filled in the online form at the Mayflower Society site and I'm waiting on the response. I have a few questions though. The genealogy I have is: 1 Stephen Hopkins [Mayflower Passenger] b: abt 1578 p. Hampshire, England d: 1644 + Mary [Love?] 2 Constance Hopkins [Mayflower Passenger] b: 1606 p. England + Nicholas Snow [Anne Passenger] b: 1598/1599 p. Horton, England 3 Sarah Snow b: abt 1632 p. Plymouth, MA + William Walker 4 Jabez Walker b: 1688 p. Eastham, MA d: 1742 + Elizabeth _________? b: 1670 p. Eastham, MA 5 Richard Walker b: 1695 p. Eastham, MA d: 1794 p: Barnwell, SC 4 Sarah Walker + Nathaniel Warren 5 Mercy Warren How did William Walker arrive in the New World? One or two listings on Rootsweb said he came over on the Elizabeth in 1635. But I don't see him on any passenger lists. A few other listings have him being born in Plymouth, MA and his father William listed. Does anyone have any reliable information? From some prior emails in the list, it seemed like this might be a "weak" link. Is it confirmed that Sarah Snow, daughter of Constance and Nicholas Snow, was the wife of William Walker and the mother of Jabez Walker? Does anyone know Jabez's wife Elizabeth's last name? Also, if Sarah Walker is the daughter of William Walker and Sarah Snow, then descendants of Nathaniel Warren would also be descendants of Constance and Stephen Hopkins. Correct? Or is that not a confirmed line either? Thanks, Kirk Graham Houston, TX Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ page for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Good morning all, I am wondering if anyone was fortunate enough to see the brief piece on the Pilgrim Museum in Leiden last week? It was on last Tuesday on NBC's Today Show which featured a tour of Holland. The tour visited Leiden and shows the outside and interior of the Pilgrim Museum with esteemed scholar and researcher Jeremy Bangs. I did not see the show but someone was kind enough to send me the clip. You will need to download RealPlayer in order to view. msnbc.com video: Exploring the Netherlands Relatively yours, Muriel Curtis Cushing, FLA msnbc.com video: Exploring the Netherlands There's a short piece about Leiden and the Pilgrim museum in the middle of this segment from Tuesday's NBC program Today. This message was sent from RealPlayer. for free and download web video directly to your computer. Privacy Policy

I filled in that online form in January for Stephen Hopkins and as yet have not heard a thing. I am not sure that it is working--maybe a work in progress? Or maybe I did something wrong.. Marion Whitney Martin

Thanks, Muriel. Some clarification to hopefully make this interesting clip a little easier to find tho (at least I had trouble getting to it at first...): * The link is http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12065856/ (page down tho, because it looks on first glance like the only thing on this page is a blank white screen); * In the list of videos for Monday, click on "Lauer's 'Where in the World' picks"; * In the list of thumbnails to the left of the video screen, page down almost to the bottom, and you will see the one for "Exploring the Netherlands"; * The part of this 5 minute and 7 second video segment that has to do with Leiden is at about 2:39 in the clip; Bangs is seen at about 2:49. Take care. Kathy ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Kathryn P.B. Fenton Virginia Beach, VA ----- Original Message ----- From: <flash1620@comcast.net> To: "Unknown" <MAYFLOWER-L@rootsweb.com> Cc: "Dorothy Hornus" <plymouth.rocks@tampabay.rr.com> Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 7:00 AM Subject: [MFLR] FW: RealPlayer Video Link: msnbc.com video: Exploring theNetherlands > > Good morning all, > > I am wondering if anyone was fortunate enough to see the brief piece on > the Pilgrim Museum in Leiden last week? It was on last Tuesday on NBC's > Today Show which featured a tour of Holland. The tour visited Leiden and > shows the outside and interior of the Pilgrim Museum with esteemed scholar > and researcher Jeremy Bangs. I did not see the show but someone was > kind enough to send me the clip. You will need to download RealPlayer in > order to view. msnbc.com video: Exploring the Netherlands > > Relatively yours, > Muriel Curtis Cushing, FLA > > > msnbc.com video: Exploring the Netherlands > > There's a short piece about Leiden and the Pilgrim museum in the middle of > this segment from Tuesday's NBC program Today. > > > > > > This message was sent from RealPlayer. for free and download web video > directly to your computer. Privacy Policy > Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ page > for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I've been researching some of my family tree and found what may be a path to Stephen Hopkins through his daughter Constance. I filled in the online form at the Mayflower Society site and I'm waiting on the response. I have a few questions though. The genealogy I have is: 1 Stephen Hopkins [Mayflower Passenger] b: abt 1578 p. Hampshire, England d: 1644 + Mary [Love?] 2 Constance Hopkins [Mayflower Passenger] b: 1606 p. England + Nicholas Snow [Anne Passenger] b: 1598/1599 p. Horton, England 3 Sarah Snow b: abt 1632 p. Plymouth, MA + William Walker 4 Jabez Walker b: 1688 p. Eastham, MA d: 1742 + Elizabeth _________? b: 1670 p. Eastham, MA 5 Richard Walker b: 1695 p. Eastham, MA d: 1794 p: Barnwell, SC 4 Sarah Walker + Nathaniel Warren 5 Mercy Warren How did William Walker arrive in the New World? One or two listings on Rootsweb said he came over on the Elizabeth in 1635. But I don't see him on any passenger lists. A few other listings have him being born in Plymouth, MA and his father William listed. Does anyone have any reliable information? From some prior emails in the list, it seemed like this might be a "weak" link. Is it confirmed that Sarah Snow, daughter of Constance and Nicholas Snow, was the wife of William Walker and the mother of Jabez Walker? Does anyone know Jabez's wife Elizabeth's last name? Also, if Sarah Walker is the daughter of William Walker and Sarah Snow, then descendants of Nathaniel Warren would also be descendants of Constance and Stephen Hopkins. Correct? Or is that not a confirmed line either? Thanks, Kirk Graham Houston, TX

My Jane Standish was born at Plympton, Mass., on October 24, 1797; died at Washington,D.C. February 18, 1875. Marriage to Israel Heald took place at Sumner, ME , April 16, 1816. Israel Heald born at Sumner, ME January 22, 1793; died at Lincoln, ME, March 28, 1882. Sorry, Dale! It would pay me to clean out my files more often! Margaret Smith Looking at Alden, Standish and Brewster

At 07:40 PM 5/4/2008, Margaret Smith wrote: >I have a Jane Standish (1797-1875) married to Israel Heald >(1793-1882) sometime before 1816 (birth year of her first >child). Where? Dale H. Cook, Member, NEHGS and MA Society of Mayflower Descendants; Plymouth Co. MA Coordinator for the USGenWeb Project Administrator of http://plymouthcolony.net

Hello to the list, I have a Jane Standish (1797-1875) married to Israel Heald (1793-1882) sometime before 1816 (birth year of her first child). She is supposed to be the daughter of Mary (Polly) Bradford (Eunice Loring Bradford, Bathsheba Bass Loring, Jonathan Bass, Samuel Bass, Ruth Alden Bass, John Alden) and Ellis Standish (Shadrach, Ebenezer, Zachariah, Ebenezer, Alexander, Myles). They were the parents of twelve children, one of whom was my Great Grandmother Augusta Sawyer Heald Smith. However, the Alden Kindred website has Jane married to Capt. Zaccheus Sherman on December 6. 1818 at Plympton. Have I a different Jane Standish? I know the Alden website is not to be taken as gospel, according to their disclaimer. Has anyone else come across these people? Thanks, Margaret Smith Looking at Alden, Standish and Brewster

Never mind- website decided to finally show up! No need to respond. Christie